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2012-03-19, 09:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
Full patch notes now up.
Interesting things not known before include slight buff to Sona's Power Chord damage, nerf to summoner spell Heal, and a slight nerf to blue buff's mana regen. Oh, and that Blitzcrank buff, of course.
But the big news? Major nerf to Janna's shield. Ouch.Check out my Let's Plays: Sengoku Gensokyo (Complete!), Touhoumon (Complete!), and Labyrinth of Touhou
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2012-03-19, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
Blitz was indeed buffed, crazy as that is. If I could play Blitz at all, I would be playing him every game and winning everything. As it is, I'll probably still play him a lot and grab all the minions/air.
Irelia's ult CD is only up by 10 seconds, which isn't bad. Hiten's passive is halved (original values when active). I see her now being kinda vulnerable early, but overall not bad.
Rammus Powerball change so good.
Other minor changes. But the big thing....
LULU! Waaaaaaaant. Excited. Gogo patch.
I'm actually pretty thrilled about this one. Sona became my favorite support a while back; I loved the harass power in lane.Last edited by Nadevoc; 2012-03-19 at 09:48 PM.
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2012-03-19, 09:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
What do people do with Pantheon these days? I'm kinda feeling a desire to go a bit Spartan in a game or two, but I'm having trouble deciding what he does that Fiora or Talon don't do better...
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2012-03-19, 09:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
Mandrop on all the things.
I believe he's used for a counterpick top. Against GP, if I remember right? And probably a few others. I've actually seen him jungle more often than anything else recently. (By which I mean, I've seen like 3, 2 of which have jungled). Not great clearing or anything, but pretty solid ganks. Though red buff not applying to single target spells any more (I didn't even know it did 'til they said they were changing it >.>) hurt his jungle a lot.
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2012-03-19, 10:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-03-19, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
I like the Blitz buff; one of his big issues was running out of mana on lane really fast if you are forced into prolonged lane fights. The Janna-nerf is annoying but meh, it does increase the amount of interaction with the shield (and makes AP Janna comparatively better) so I guess it's gonna earn a grumbling pass from me.
Rest...yeah, whatever. Irelia's prolly gonna be slightly less picked again until everyone somehow ends up flocking back to her anyways, Sona is sweet, Lifesteal nerfs are a step towards making my vision of AD casters scaling with Lifesteal reality, Rammus-nerfs are stupid and they should stop doing those.
Lulu looks interesting; gonna give her a go when she comes out.Last edited by Eldariel; 2012-03-19 at 10:04 PM.
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2012-03-19, 10:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
Huh? I thought shield was like that already. >.>
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2012-03-19, 10:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
As a nationally ranked robot processing chip dedicated to Hooke's Law based mechanics within Blitzcrank's wrist unit, I'm excited about potentially being utilized more often. Less excited about the AP ratio (should totally be AD).
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2012-03-19, 10:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
As did I, simply because every other shield in the game that has an additional effect tacked on (Morgana, Sion, et all) lose that effect once the thing is gone.
In other patch comments and musings, that Garen fix, and THAT RIVEN FIX. I love you Riot. The new Maw item looks like something I will almost always build on Riven now.
Also, didn't Dog include a "Do the Evolution" line in his Victor guide? (Which still needs to be added to the OP) It seems a bit out of place in the announcement about the Maw.
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2012-03-19, 10:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-03-19, 11:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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As a Janna main since season 1, I don't really mind the nerf... why? Well, sure, it'll make her a fair deal weaker. But more importantly it'll make everyone else stop picking her! Dang it, having her banned or first picked by the other team all the time since Hannover got annoying! xP
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2012-03-19, 11:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
He can pretty much do anything. To varying degrees of success against the right champs. Generally, the most popular choices seem to be jungle and top (if you see the opponent pick gangplank grab pantheon, it's hilarious), but he can actually do pretty well against a lot of mids and with the right support can make bot a kill lane (Leona).
Mostly, the comparison to Talon is the closest. But they both have strengths and weaknesses. Their burst is comparable, pantheon has slightly stronger cc. But the main difference is Talon has an escape, while Pantheon can mandrop across the field. Really just pick which of the two you like better and play them.
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2012-03-19, 11:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
The Janna nerf is idiotic. Janna being picked so heavily at Hanover was more a sign of every other support having been nerfed into mediocrity than Janna herself being overpowered. She does some things very well (protect her carry and poke), but is very bad at others (providing sustain, setting up kills). It seems like Riot just has no clue what they want to do with the support role.
Hopefully Lulu is at least good. Her kit looks pretty fun.
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2012-03-19, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-03-20, 12:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
Any advice for someone only level 15?
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2012-03-20, 12:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
This might be of interest.
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2012-03-20, 12:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
Get to level 30, then learn to jungle. It's a valuable skill too many people aren't nearly good enough at.
Also, yeah, focus on CS, map awareness, and slow guaranteed swings for your team; trying to make big plays or dives ends poorly (for instance, in any situation where, assuming no huge killstreak bonuses, you will definitely die, going in for the kill, even if you are sure you'll get it, is not worth it). Jungle buffs (or just buffs, since jungling may not be common), dragon, and baron if possible are all things to look out for.You rang?
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2012-03-20, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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I actually had no idea about this, but it turns out I have a 69% Dominion win rate! I guess all the sneaking around and capping unexpected points I do pays off.
It also reminds me of the fact that I'm now 171 wins, 172 losses on normal. Now I'm scared to do another match, in case I don't manage to break even!
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2012-03-20, 02:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
What are your thoughts on Triforce for Nasus?
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2012-03-20, 02:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
It's a solid lategame item, but unless you need to leverage a strong early top with a couple of jungle ganks into a threatening and tower pushing midgame, not really worth rushing compared to the traditional "build tanky CDR, get all the farm, then build Triforce" type Nasus. I'm not as adamant that you should never rush Triforce as most people, but you need both a really good start (so that you can get the triforce components early enough) and a really good reason (so that you can justify going around as kill/push Nasus instead of farm/teleport to save lanes Nasus) to justify it. Nasus can have a good midgame, but it sacrifices a lot late to do it, and you need to figure out if it's a good idea.
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2012-03-20, 04:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Update to the Skarner Build (thank you for the suggestions)
HoG--> Randuins
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2012-03-20, 04:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-03-20, 05:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-03-20, 05:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
Truth resists simplicity.
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2012-03-20, 05:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
I wouldn't figure that Triforce on Nasus is that great as a damage choice unless you are going to duel/skirmish a lot, or just want large burst damage on squishy targets; however, as the game progresses and as enemies stack armor, usually Last Whisper is a cheaper and more efficient choice for amplifying your damage.
But eh, there's nothing inherently wrong with building Triforce on him.
As for Wit's, I dunno. Nasus relies mostly on his Q's rather than autoattacks, so the attack speed isn't as important but he still can autoattack between his Q cooldowns anyway... maybe it's decent for beating people into submission.
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2012-03-20, 05:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
Me too. I played like that always.
I didn't have "Do the Evolution" but I did have "Have a Glorious Evolution!"
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I want to play Lulu solo top like Teemo. For reals, she seems like she'd make a good sorta tanky onhitter.BANG → !
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2012-03-20, 06:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
Which is exactly what Nasus wants to do, isn't it? Skirmish when he's pushing down sidelanes and whacking towers for 1/4 their hp, and burst down squishies via Wither-Q-Q in teamfights. Also, E has a 40-point armor reduction, so Last Whisper isn't as efficient as it would otherwise be.
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2012-03-20, 07:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXXI: I'll Start My Own Team! With TF! And Janna!
The other Big Thing about Triforce is that it gives Nasus sticking power he desperately needs, and it gives it all to him in one item. Slows, more burst, and movespeed buffs are all great for getting him to stay on one target and ruin their day.
For the normal defensive nasus build: Besides the early Philo, remember to build options that get you CDR first (kindlegem, glacial shroud). More Q farm, more pain.
EDIT: Nasus doesn't want to skirmish much. Unless he's getting a kill or tower Right Now, it's better for him to just be constantly farming his Q; depending on how farm reliant the enemy solo top is, it's almost better for him to win slightly on last hits than it is to sacrifice some to force him/her back with poking, since that really hurts your Q. As I said, I believe Triforce can be good midgame, but it needs really specific situations to allow Nasus to bring his full power to bear without screwing him over later (mostly, the full power of Wither for ganking and SS for tower smashing).Last edited by PEACH; 2012-03-20 at 07:37 AM.
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