Pathfinder Grab Bag Competition Chat Thread

[SamBurke]

Class comments

• First, which spell is it that you're basing this off of?
  

• I'm basing it off of the idea of spells themselves, completely redoing the SPELL system.
  
  

• I don't see any way to recover motes. I assume at rest?

[Ilorin Lorati]

Not sure what you meant here... What does a DC calculation normally look like?

Let me use Cleric as an example, but all of the other ones follow this pattern:

The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a cleric's spell is 10 + the spell level + the cleric's Wisdom modifier.

I'd word it like this:

The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a rune or design is 10 + 1/3 the deepcaster's level + the deepcaster's Intelligence modifier.

This helps keep the DC reading consistent with other pathfinder classes, while also more easily allowing for prestige classes, feats, and traits that increase the deepcaster's effective level, since class level is pretty set in stone.

I've also noticed that you use class level a few times; this is redundant, since in Pathfinder "level" automatically means class level unless otherwise specified.

[SamBurke]

The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a rune or design is 10 + 1/3 the deepcaster's level + the deepcaster's Intelligence modifier.

This helps keep the DC reading consistent with other pathfinder classes, while also more easily allowing for prestige classes, feats, and traits that increase the deepcaster's effective level, since class level is pretty set in stone.

I've also noticed that you use class level a few times; this is redundant, since in Pathfinder "level" automatically means class level unless otherwise specified.

Fixed.

I was unaware of that... I do feel it'll help clarity at least a little. What does everybody else think?

[Tanuki Tales]

Since I have no clue if the Bombardier is done yet....

Here's a run down on the Master of Missiles in the mean time!

As always, we start with grammar and formatting and junk:

Missile Mastery

• You have an errant bracket before magic missile in the second sentence.

And that's all for that bit as far as I noticed with a quick read through.

• This class highly amuses me. It's quite solid at what it intends to do and all the class features are quite poignant, flavorful and interesting. Good job!
• Do any of the class features qualify as Sp instead of Su? The former tag is used so infrequently that I honestly can't remember off the top of my head when you're exactly supposed to use it.
• Like with the Scorching Mage, I feel like the Metamagic abuse and other toothsome things this class gets you should cost more than just one caster level. I know you can't enter it until 7th or 8th level, but Magic Missile is already a "Hit: Always, Save: Nope" spell. It's the perfect delivery system for metamagic as is. That and losing another level of casting or two would make the second part of Missile Mastery more useful.

Edit:

Oh and there's still about 3 or so hours left to vote everyone. So if you haven't or haven't told your friends () about voting, here's your chance to do so!

[Deviston]

I'm giving all three of my votes to Mutagenic Madness.

[Tanuki Tales]

I'm giving all three of my votes to Mutagenic Madness.

Well, you can't do that for 1. And for two, voting ended for that round about 28 minutes before you posted this message. Sorry Deviston.

[Tanuki Tales]

{table=head]Working Name|Theme|Votes
The Third Law|Science and Technology|0
Gamer's Gambit|Video games|0
[/table]


Well, we're down to the wire folks! You get 1 vote this time, the voting will close Sunday at 11:59 pm and only one of these two will walk away as May's contest theme!

[TheWombatOfDoom]

I'll vote for gamer's gambit!

[Tanuki Tales]

{table=head]Working Name|Theme|Votes
The Third Law|Science and Technology|0
Gamer's Gambit|Video games|1
[/table]

Votes tallied to here.

[SamBurke]

I vote for... THIRD LAW!

Because I already have the class Idea.

[Tanuki Tales]

{table=head]Working Name|Theme|Votes
The Third Law|Science and Technology|1
Gamer's Gambit|Video games|1
[/table]

Votes tallied to here.

[Ilorin Lorati]

Since I have no clue if the Bombardier is done yet....

Here's a run down on the Master of Missiles in the mean time!

*snip*

Fixed the tag error.
The active abilities are all used as spells, so they should all qualify as SLAs. At least, that's how I understood it.
I'll bring the CL back down one, but will be leaving the bonus to MM CL, since one more missile is kinda negligible anyways. I don't want to reduce it by 3, because that would be removing the ability for sorcerers to use 9th level spells.


Edit: Also, I vote for Gamer's Gambit.

[Deviston]

Second draft voting begins now folks. Works the same as the first draft, except this time you only get 3 votes. Voting will remain open until 11:59 pm Thursday.

I must have misunderstood 11:59 pm Thursday then. Because my vote came in at 11:27 pm. According to the forums.

[Tanuki Tales]

I must have misunderstood 11:59 pm Thursday then. Because my vote came in at 11:27 pm. According to the forums.

I've got 12:57 on my time stamp.

What time zone do you have?

[Deviston]

GMT -6 (Central)

We seem to have a coordination error! I guess the question is, what time zone are the deadlines based off of?

[Tanuki Tales]

GMT -6 (Central)

We seem to have a coordination error! I guess the question is, what time zone are the deadlines based off of?

*face palm*

I just noticed, now, that I never actually specified that the contest runs off Eastern Standard Time, which it UTC-5. Though it's never actually come up before now.

Ugh.

Alright, this is totally my bad.

Deviston, I'll let you cast your votes for the previous round now and re-do the finals to reflect them. Keep in mind that you can only give 1 vote to 1 entry, not all 3 to 1.

[Deviston]

You sir are a blessing and a saint. Sorry to cause such a ruckus, and I'll cast only one vote for Mutagenic Madness. I think that brings it to the final voting round?

And thank you for the one-time free pass :) -5 from now on it is! Well, for the Grab Bag at least hahahaa

[Tanuki Tales]

You sir are a blessing and a saint.

Hardly.

Sorry to cause such a ruckus, and I'll cast only one vote for Mutagenic Madness. I think that brings it to the final voting round?

And thank you for the one-time free pass :) -5 from now on it is! Well, for the Grab Bag at least hahahaa

It was all my fault in the first place; just cleaning up my mess.

And what are your other two votes? It can matter.

[gr8artist]

Final round Mutagen/Tech/Gaming... I'll cast my vote for Video Games

[DawnbringerSO]

Final vote for the third law.

[Tanuki Tales]

Guys, per the last few posts, we're probably going to have to re-do the final round pending what Deviston votes on for the previous round.

So hold on to your votes for now.

[SamBurke]

Guys, per the last few posts, we're probably going to have to re-do the final round pending what Deviston votes on for the previous round.

So hold on to your votes for now.

Will do! Tell us when we can again... I'm getting antsy about the results.

[Ilorin Lorati]

Will do! Tell us when we can again... I'm getting antsy about the results.

You just want your chance to make sure Third Law is what's chosen. :p

[DawnbringerSO]

You just want your chance to make sure Third Law is what's chosen. :p

And who wouldn't? I already have an idea for a class.

[Ilorin Lorati]

And who wouldn't? I already have an idea for a class.

And I already have an idea for a class for Gamer's Gambit. :p

I recently made a technology-based archetype, so I'm not all that eager to do it again. >.>

[Tanuki Tales]

I hope Deviston comes back soon. Otherwise I might just have to roll to determine his other two votes.

[SamBurke]

As it Happens,I plan om votimg for Gamers Gambit. i, too, a great idea. Speakimg of which, I claim Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite as my inspiration... Just sayin.

[Milo v3]

I'll vote for Gamer's Gambit.

[Tanuki Tales]

I'll vote for Gamer's Gambit.

Final round is on pause for the moment. We might need to re-do it.


How've you been by the way man? Haven't seen you around.

[Milo v3]

How've you been by the way man? Haven't seen you around.

Yeah, my head hasn't been screwed on right the past few weeks.