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    Few people realize that MLP;FiM subscribes to the the trifunctional hypothesis and so may be an ancient Indo-European culture.
    That, and it's language, architecture, art and societal customs bear striking similarities as well.
    Though I wouldn't put the Unicorns as priests, more as scholars.
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    They're miracle-workers - whether you call it wizards, priests, or whatever doesn't really matter.
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    That's true.
    And I suppose, in the earliest times, priests were synonymous with scholars.
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    All right, all right! I forgot to add in the horn!

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    And I agree. Lloyd's cutie mark is a shield. I just put a sunburst behind it.


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    In which case, what kind of building are they in?
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    Being a Unicorn has nothing to do with being an Elf.
    It merely signifies the presence magic.
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    Being a Unicorn has nothing to do with being an Elf.
    It merely signifies the presence magic.
    Exactly. I'm pretty sure her dad's a unicorn too.

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    Aren't all elves magical in this world? In the sense of "will die without mana"?
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    Exactly. I'm pretty sure her dad's a unicorn too.
    Yeah, I would say he is. Although, if we were to compare him to Serrin's mom, his magic would be for a different talent and less powerful.
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    Aren't all elves magical in this world? In the sense of "will die without mana"?
    I was under the impression that every living thing in the Murphyverse would die without arcana. Arcana-friendly creatures (dragons, elves, and the like) would simply die faster because many of their biological processes depend on arcana to work. I think it's similar to how every living thing on Earth needs water, but a fish without water would die much faster than a frog, which in turn would die much faster than a lizard.

    And, from what I can tell from my brony sister, earth ponies are magical too, just not in the "make stuff fly around" kind of way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alagaesian View Post
    I was under the impression that every living thing in the Murphyverse would die without arcana. Arcana-friendly creatures (dragons, elves, and the like) would simply die faster because many of their biological processes depend on arcana to work. I think it's similar to how every living thing on Earth needs water, but a fish without water would die much faster than a frog, which in turn would die much faster than a lizard.
    Bingo. If arcana went to zero (which I'm not even sure is possible, the curve's an asymptote) everything would die. If arcana went to extremely low levels, highly magical creatures would be doomed in a few generations. Half-elves would probably survive, but they'd be significantly weakened.

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    How about half elf? I mean they're half human, which means they will have more survivability .
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    How about half elf? I mean they're half human, which means they will have more survivability .
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    Bingo. If arcana went to zero (which I'm not even sure is possible, the curve's an asymptote) everything would die. If arcana went to extremely low levels, highly magical creatures would be doomed in a few generations. Half-elves would probably survive, but they'd be significantly weakened.

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    would they mentally mature quicker (and perhaps better) in an environment with even stronger ambient arcana? Might explain choice of spawning raising grounds in instances?
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    would they mentally mature quicker (and perhaps better) in an environment with even stronger ambient arcana? Might explain choice of spawning raising grounds in instances?
    Possibly, but the global fluctuations are pretty minor. There are some localized spikes and dips, but those are too small to really take advantage of.

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    An interesting take on the expanded lifespan and expanded childhood of elves and other long-lived race

    Could be possible that someone could try to use some sort of ritual/epic spell/whatever plot point to funnel general arcana to a single point and use what I guess would be a considerable increase in power? Assuming that the relationship between Arcana and "growth" is known or documented it is a reasonable leap of logic to try to increase the concentration of it in a single point and Wizards being the scholarly sort might want to try it for science! arcane studies! or to get unlimited powah! (assuming they're evil).

    Concerning the Demotivator... [probably missing the point] Multiclassing is the worst thing a Wizard (or any caster for that matter) can do, past the first few levels casters will have enough spell slots for a day (assuming the "normal and expected" 4 encounters a day paradigm), hell a wizard shouldn't need more than one or two spells per encounter besides there are tons of ways to mitigate the use of spell slots and if you area really scared of going into crossbow mode there are [reserve] feats[/probably missing the point]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Eclipse View Post
    Concerning the Demotivator... [probably missing the point] Multiclassing is the worst thing a Wizard (or any caster for that matter) can do, past the first few levels casters will have enough spell slots for a day (assuming the "normal and expected" 4 encounters a day paradigm), hell a wizard shouldn't need more than one or two spells per encounter besides there are tons of ways to mitigate the use of spell slots and if you area really scared of going into crossbow mode there are [reserve] feats[/probably missing the point]
    Unless you have a DM that massively enjoys the use of anti-magic fields or areas. In a campaign, my party ended up getting stranded in a magic-less plane for nearly three sessions. I was happy to have been a ranger. Secondary spellcaster, yes, but I'd optimized the character to focus on the Favored Enemy bonus.

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    Oh I agree that specifics may change that; but in general it is assumed that all characters will have access to their defining class features most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alagaesian View Post
    Unless you have a DM that massively enjoys the use of anti-magic fields or areas. In a campaign, my party ended up getting stranded in a magic-less plane for nearly three sessions. I was happy to have been a ranger. Secondary spellcaster, yes, but I'd optimized the character to focus on the Favored Enemy bonus.
    Magicless plane is pure fiat, and doesn't even make much sense because how are you supposed to teleport into/out of it in the first place? Anti-Magic Fields are small, and can be overcome by many Conjurations, such as the Orb spells, or by buffing ranged martial characters, because the Hasted ranger still gets the extra attack and other minor bonuses.

    The only way to effectively hit a good wizard with an AMF is by an Arcane Archer shooting AMF-imbued arrows against a wizard who is somehow allowing himself to get hit because his only protection is a Contingency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Magicless plane is pure fiat, and doesn't even make much sense because how are you supposed to teleport into/out of it in the first place? Anti-Magic Fields are small, and can be overcome by many Conjurations, such as the Orb spells, or by buffing ranged martial characters, because the Hasted ranger still gets the extra attack and other minor bonuses.

    The only way to effectively hit a good wizard with an AMF is by an Arcane Archer shooting AMF-imbued arrows against a wizard who is somehow allowing himself to get hit because his only protection is a Contingency.
    I am not sure, a Cheater of Mystra is another option to catch a Wizard in an AMF; but as much as I agree with you Jade Dragon, one must remember than in most games a Contingency'ed Astrally Projected Wizard from his private Demi-plane isn't the norm of optimization. I bet that in most games catching a Wizard in an AMF isn't that difficult, though that doesn't mean a Wizard is completely useless in said field.
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    That reminds me of a campaign where my DM had a campaign where all arcana in the world had simply vanished all of a sudden. Being a fighter, I was fine, but our wizard was neigh useless.

    On the brightside, when we got to the source of where the arcane magic was being funneled to, since it was highly concentrated, he organized that every spell our wizard cast and both maximized and empowered on them for free.
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    Bingo. If arcana went to zero (which I'm not even sure is possible, the curve's an asymptote) everything would die. If arcana went to extremely low levels, highly magical creatures would be doomed in a few generations. Half-elves would probably survive, but they'd be significantly weakened.

    Fun bio: There's a reason highly magical creatures take so long to reach mental maturity, and it's not because they're stupid. It takes a very long time for their nervous system to fully innervate and work with ambient arcana flows, but one of the most obvious benefits is extremely high brain plasticity. Magical creatures have extremely good memories and it takes a lot of trauma to give them permanent brain damage. Of course, the drawback is twenty years in diapers.
    Assuming that it approaches 0 (which would make sense from other information), then at infinity arcana is 0.

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    Its not fun to make assumptions for this comic because Alagaesian always comes up with the right ones fast.
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    Hey guys, I'm mostly done with the comic--the problem is finding the time to squeeze in these last couple of panels. Crossed fingers, maybe tonight.

    As for why I'm suddenly having trouble finding time, let's just say that in my physiology class we're learning how to read ECGs. Or at least how the different parts of it represent different parts of the cardiac cycle and what they stand for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Eclipse View Post
    ECG-what now? Me no understand Biology speak.

    Looking it up I believe it is electrocardiography, which is apparently a to get a tool used to get diagnostic information on the electrical and muscular functions of the heart.
    Does this by use of placement of, normally, 10 electrodes across your body on the surface of your skin. The information is then recorded to a machine, where a person has to interpret that information.

    Could be used to see any damage to the heart and the size and location of its chambers. Could be used to see the effect of certain drugs and other substances on the heart.

    I could be completely wrong, but I believe that is what it is.

    edit: reading the ECG's is apparently the hard part, and is what Coffee is learning.

    Also to quote from Wikipedia, which is not the best source of information, but I digress, "The cardiac cycle is a term referring to all or any of the events related to the flow or blood pressure that occurs from the beginning of one heartbeat to the beginning of the next."

    That should provide enough information to give an appreciation for what Coffee is learning currently, though this explanation is all overly simplified, especially since it is not a subject that I study and so I can't go in depth.
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    So Coffee Included, what do you think about g1 my little ponies? I used to watch the reruns and it is much scarier than manly 80s toon like GI Joe and Transformers (Doom, Drought, wish go wrong, and something that will show up on Friendship is magic).
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    Hey guys, I'm mostly done with the comic--the problem is finding the time to squeeze in these last couple of panels. Crossed fingers, maybe tonight.

    As for why I'm suddenly having trouble finding time, let's just say that in my physiology class we're learning how to read ECGs. Or at least how the different parts of it represent different parts of the cardiac cycle and what they stand for.
    My brother worked for a cardiologist who, as a dare, had his interns throw the ECG in the air and he diagnosed the patient before the ECG reached the floor.

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    Umm... If you don't mind, I'm going to hold off doing that scene with Lloyd and Serrin. I've taken on too many crazy projects just now.

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