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League of Legends XXXII: Cupcakes and Kittens and Squirrels. Oh my!
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Seizing the fourth digit: Playing your way out of Elo Hell. by Math_Mage
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*Flair and class provided by your local Dogmantra!Last edited by TechnOkami; 2012-03-27 at 01:36 AM.
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I started my first campaign outside of an abandoned mine, just as soon as a meteor storm from the moon hits.
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
This thread title sucks. No one else even voted for it. Way to be a team player, Techno.
Also, can we ditch the red text on the thread number? That was added for thread XXX and it isn't really relevant anymore.
Anyways, Lulu isn't my cup of tea so I spent my saved up IP on a set of Lifesteal quints. There are so many opportunities that have opened up before me.
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Also, a ton of the guides are uselessly outdated and only a few of them have worthwhile, how should I say, artistic value. We should do some scrubbing sometime.Last edited by ex cathedra; 2012-03-26 at 09:04 PM.
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
I've started streaming again.
78% of DM's started their first campaign in a tavern. If you're one of the 22% that didn't, copy and paste this into your signature.
I started my first campaign outside of an abandoned mine, just as soon as a meteor storm from the moon hits.
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
Not too sure how I feel about Shen jungle in the first place. It's safe and it has decent ganks, but he's so slow. I think it's like Irelia jungle in a lot of ways, now that I think of it. Neither of them are particularly worthwhile compared to their viability in lane.
But Dog's well-known and relatively charismatic. And Dog's a cutie. So we break rules for Dog. This thread title doesn't even have anything to do with LoL or even the LoL thread. Just my two cents.
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
Campaign Journal: Uncovering the Lost World - A Player's Diary in Low-Magic D&D (Latest Update: 8.3.2014)
Being Bane: A Guide to Barbarians Cracking Small Men - Ever Been Angry?! Then this is for you!
SRD Averages - An aggregation of all the key stats of all the monster entries on SRD arranged by CR.
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
You could probably start Boots+1+Ward if you're running a runepage like that, considering his massive sustain, but I'm not sure why you would. Shen's really mobile but he's a bit too slow to really counterjungle anyone. Just a thought.
I need to try Boots+3 Nocturne with lifesteal quints. I can start Doran's Blade on champions like Lee Sin and Riven and still have as much lifesteal as a pre-nerf Vampiric Scepter. Speaking of which, I'll probably end up doing way more Doran's stacking in jungle considering that the other forms of lifesteal took a hit. It was already good, this just made it better.Last edited by ex cathedra; 2012-03-26 at 09:23 PM.
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
Jungle Katarina. AD/Armor/ArPen runes, 21/9/0 masteries. R>Q>W>E.
WolvesBlueWraithsGolemRed. I like Dorans start, Armor3 works, Boots5 works. Wriggles is delicious. Build Hybrid.
Too strong, new meta. Expect nerfs soon.
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
Jungle Shen has the advantage of exerting pressure on all lanes by virtue of existing though. All ganks will automatically get counterganked, any aggressive play will be punished and all your laners are capable of towerdiving. The advantage of doing this from the jungle vs. the lane is that in the jungle there's no opposing laner to stun you out of your ults and you don't lose a tower for ulting.
Campaign Journal: Uncovering the Lost World - A Player's Diary in Low-Magic D&D (Latest Update: 8.3.2014)
Being Bane: A Guide to Barbarians Cracking Small Men - Ever Been Angry?! Then this is for you!
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
This has always been the arguement, and I don't exactly buy it when Shen can take Flash+Teleport and can outlane a lot of different heroes...
But then again, I also don't think Shen's 6 ganks are anything to write home about. All he can really do is farm at a moderately decent pace. This makes him a very poor jungler as compared to Nocturne (lvl1 threat, strong jungle, good ganks), Moakai/Alistair (both are strong late game tanks and have huge CC for early ganks), Mundo/Shyvanna (both have insanely fast jungle and Mundo actually has good ganks) or Lee Sin (all around control and a lack of buff reliance for ... anything plus a variety of starting options make Lee Sin one of the best junglers in the game).
Honestly, as long as Mundo, Shyvanna, Moakai, Alistair, Nocturne and Lee Sin remain in their current states I really don't see room for anyone else as far as competitive junglers go. Udyr and WW don't function as well as these junglers. Both have weak ganks (pre six), Udyr's farming potential is good, but his laning presence currently is just much stronger. What Udyr used to be able to do (farm, really fast) has been shown to be inferior to Mundo and Shyvanna. Rammus might be a very good late game tank, and he might be underrated, but Alistair and Moakai probably have better jungling mid-game, which is rammus' biggest weakness: his transition to teamfighting when ganks are unsuccessful is weak because his ability to continuously clear the jungle is very poor. Trundle is probably hugely underplayed just because he really doesn't do anything particularly well, except poke comps, and that's just because Pillar is overpowered, much like Anivia's wall is probably the best spell in her kit. But Trundle still suffers from having moderate ganks and only moderate clearing ability. In fact, that's probably what makes him so underplayed.
Jarvan might be a pick we start to see more often, but I doubt it. It seems to me that people just don't like him as a hero, and that despite all the free damage and free stats he can provide his team his CC and utility are not enough for a true tank and tankydps like Mundo make him inferior . . . somehow. I'm actually generally confused as to why people don't pick J4 more often.
Malphite/Sejuanni, and Amumu are other heroes that we don't see. I think Amumu is underplayed because he sucks, while the other two are underplayed because no one really values pure tanks lacking hard CC pre-six right now. Further emphasis on early game, which these heroes are not particularly good at, mean they fall further down in usefulness. Its not that Malphite particularly sucks, for instance. He is a fine champion. Its just that his usefulness as a general pick is rather low. This results in him being underplayed because when you can play him you'd rather just play a hero you are better with. Why play Malphite, even if he is a perfect counterpick, if you know another hero (Mundo, Nocturne, Alistair) can operate against the enemy team just fine and you know you are in fact better with that hero? But that's another entire problem all together.
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
Shen is, however, the only global moving ult in the game so he's by default better than all junglers without global ults. Really, the fact that you don't have to leave the jungle to maintain presence makes up for his poor clear speed since unlike every other jungler in the game, he can afford to sit in the jungle all game. In other words, he jungles slower than fast clearers but he has extra jungle time to make up for it and obviously the best kit out of all junglers.
It's no coincidence that when CLG got Shen in Hannover they jungled him instead of toplaning him (though part of that is of course Hotshot being a worse Shen than SV). And yeah, you can run TP and that's fine (I personally run Heal/Ignite on solotop Shen; Flash feels eminently unnecessary on him and Heal makes the ult that much bigger a swing in a fight) but that doesn't really allow you to hold the tower since you're still fighting for a long time while enemy is free to do whatever they want on your lane. In general, lane Shen will lose his tower unless he wins his lane hard and that's by design and something you sign up for when you run lane Shen. Jungle Shen sidesteps this issue.
The real question is whether Shen is better or worse than the alternative junglers/tops and IMHO he's extremely high on both trees. I don't think there's a single jungler or toplaner I'd pick over Shen given the option; there's simply no other such game-changing champion currently. Like, pre-buff Shen was strong but now that they made him a Skarner-level duelist with no need for blue, he's suddenly both omnipresent and super-high impact after ulting.
Jarvan isn't being picked 'cause people don't happen to be picking him. Every good jungler acknowledges that he's strong, they just don't happen to prefer him right now. He has more than enough CC and he's a bruiser; he's like a physical Amumu with stronger early 1v1 and mobility (but slower clears).
Rammus is kinda eclipsed by Lee and Riven though his early ganks are obviously better; the fact that both can start red into CC-heavy ganks, and don't really have trouble without blue gives them a significant edge Rammus lacks. That said Rammus is still a fine pick and obviously has a niché and the lack of Rammus-picks is more of a factor of many top teams currently favoring aggressive counterjungle strategies.
And I'll still say that you people are wrong about Amumu but whatever, we won't come to an agreement on that. Give it 6 months tops and Amumu will be played again without any buffs. Right now the arguments against him remind me of the (in retrospect) ridiculous arguments against Alistar in the year when he wasn't played at all with his 1.0 AP ratios, 75% ult and all that.Last edited by Eldariel; 2012-03-26 at 10:32 PM.
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Re: League of Legends XXXII: Follow me, Lady! Tra-la-la-la!
Udyr's ganks aren't weak, per se, he just has bad matchups against certain laners. Still, though, he fulfills a different role than Shyvana or Mundo. Both of them, Mundo especially, are just high DPS meatsacks in a teamfight. Udyr teamfights like a tank. They're styles aren't really comparable. Some comps would rather have additional DPS in a teamfights (double bruiser comps come to mind, especially those without hard carries) while some comps (Double AP) have much better synergy with champions like Maokai and Udyr.
Udyr's ganks are stronger than Shyvana's and similar to Mundo's and he's actually capable of peeling in a teamfight. He's a support-tank, they're both bruisers. He's much more similar to Maokai, if Maokai had weaker ganks but was capable of strong counterjungling.
J4 is probably underplayed because of other champions. His playstyle is really similar to a combination of Lee Sin's and Alistar's, and I think that most people who would jungle J4 just play one of those two champions instead.
Well, Alistar's entire kit is or has been broken, and I don't think that anything but Amumu's Q/R really compare. Alistar has/had the best base stats, the best level 2 ganks, the strongest type of CC, a stupidly powerful ultimate, some of the best initiation, and the most mana efficient heal in the game. He was literally AP Sion with more damage, more utility, twice as much CC, and almost four times as much survivability.
Amumu potentially has the best teamfighting ult in the game, but it's held back by being a PBAoE with a gigantic cooldown.Last edited by ex cathedra; 2012-03-26 at 10:44 PM.
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He's underplayed 'cause he got nerfed and people kinda stopped playing him. It's the same story as with e.g. Orianna; still incredibly strong but just not played as much.
He has more damage than Alistar (mostly Martial Cadence) and more CC than Lee Sin; he falls squarely between the two as an equally viable pick with solid L2 ganks and solid clear and ridiculous free stats.
The equivalence I'm drawing is that people kinda seem to want for him to be bad (see also Ezreal months back when junglers decided to start talking crap about him; suddenly he's the third most picked AD in Hannover with better win percentage than both Corki and Kog'Maw) and come up with a ton of silly theorycraft about why that's the case and then it becomes upon the truth itself. Like, he has clear weaknesses in early fighting but I don't feel those weaknesses are really big enough to make him unviable even on tournament level; just currently not preferred due to the types of comps top teams like to run.
This is pretty much what happened to Alistar for a massive amount of time too; he was always good but people began pretending his cooldowns are too long and that other champs fill his role better and that he isn't worth picking. Had this belief not been so widespread chances are he might've been found already back in WCG 2010 or so; AP Alistar was practically overpowered back then and support Alistar was as good as ever.
Basically, I'm just saying the collective has a track record of being horribly wrong about champion viability (see also e.g. Evelynn, Jax, Kayle, Akali and...yeah, about 50% of the champion-base).Last edited by Eldariel; 2012-03-26 at 11:04 PM.
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Yeah, that's probably a good point. He's just so much fun to play, I don't understand why he isn't more popular. Great steroids and three forms of CC just make him absurd. He's also tier 1 in my list of champions with Fins.
He is a bit blue-dependent, though. Oh, I wonder how well Lifesteal quints would work on him? His actual jungle seems really similar to Nocturne's, so I imagine that it would have a fairly large (albeit less so than with Noct himself) effect.
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I guess you could run those; I personally just run AD Quints instead. When it happens to suit my fancy I run Vampiric Scepter jungle on him; it works though goes low. Probably not recommended for serious play, especially with the jungle nerfs. But yeah, I like my damage, however I find that's probably a matter down to personal preference as there are arguments both ways.
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Well, I can't help but think that boots+3 or Doran's Blade are the optimal starts on every strong level-2 ganker in the game, and Lifesteal quints could potentially go a long way to make both of those starts more reliable.
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So I need someone to give me tips on a weird subject. I need help learning to play with an unlocked screen.
The Next person to tell me how to unlock my screen gets a warwick to the face...
I often play characters like Ezreal with many skillshots, but on the purple team, the orientation tends to make it difficult to see and land said skillshots with a locked screen. Seeing as how a locked screen is how I am accustomed to playing the game, I need help.
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This was not entirely nice to overide votes like this Techno. Especially for a thread title than most of us don't get.
But, whats done is done. So party on, I guess.Last edited by Silverraptor; 2012-03-27 at 12:21 AM.
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Honestly, I have no idea how to teach it. The very first computer games I played were sidescrollers, but after that I played multiple RTS games. The little flicks to the side of the screen to move it quickly became second nature, and I've never had trouble since. Honestly, playing a few games like Starcraft or Command and Conquer (or even better Warcraft 3, the LoL engine is based on WC3 engine) will probably get you used to unlocked screen in a hurry.
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I imagine transitioning from locked to unlocked screen is much like transitioning from default casting to smartcasting: you just have to suffer through the first few games of fumbling with your controls, and then something clicks and you wonder why you ever played the old way.
And in the case of smartcasting, you are occasionally reminded of why when you botch a Tormented Soil placement and hit none of the creeps you were trying to farm. With unlocked screen, presumably it will happen when you lose track of your champion in a teamfight and forget to use space to center on your character.
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There was a lot of conversation on the last two pages so I'm under the impression that a lot of people didn't get the chance or didn't care to pitch in their opinion.
Not counting the people who nominated the titles, :
"Cupcakes and Kittens and Squirrels. Oh my!" : 2
"Little Lulu we love you-Lu..." : 1
"This game, we're using ALL the colors!" : 1
"I think Garen is homeless...." : 1
"Stealth remake so well hidden even RIOT can't find it!" : 1
"Stop Hugging That Tower and Come Facecheck Our Bushes" : 1
This title: 1.
I don't get like more than half of these. ._.
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bleh, smartcasting
I feel like p'rhaps you are a little biased in your analysis of what normally happens, but smartcasting is icky and I still screw up Flashes because of the instant smartcast on it.
don't ruin it with the truth I want to keep going on believing it's because I am charismatic and also a little bit sexy 8)
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Wee, I got my third ever pentakill the other night, as Udyr. Uh, not that it seemed like it was particularly earned, but hey! I was doing ranked 5s with some friends... and it turns out, the teams you get matched with in your placement games are, for the most part, horrendous.
This game was against... Sion/Xin Zhao duo top, Fiddlesticks mid, Nasus/Volibear duo bottom. No jungler, no AD carry, no support... unsurprisingly, it turned out awfully one-sided. I had free reign of both jungles, and almost every gank turned out kills. An early double kill for Kennen let him continue to easily 2v1, picking up more kills on his own. Stuff just snowballed from there, then I penta'd in a teamfight at their nexus turrets just before the game ended. Nothing glamorous or skillful, just uh, instantly murdering everything. It was a good kind of mindless fun.
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I still haven't gotten down smartcasting myself, I just use standard. >_> I should probably fix that at some point... it's hard to break old habits.Last edited by Neoseanster; 2012-03-27 at 07:12 AM.
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how do I jungle mundo
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So I got in a Solo Queue Draft game and the guy said he was banning Eve, Karma and Anivia because they were secret OP champs (and 2 other guys support this idea). And once our ban came and he actually started to do that my troll alarm started ringing and I dodged.
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