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2012-04-07, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fill me in on this "Programmed to psychologically destroy people" thing?
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I've only read the first two books, but the closest I can get is the birds in Catching Fire that mimic the screaming sounds of the Tribute's loved ones, and those are basically just biological tape recorders.
I suppose there are the Wolf-Things in the first book that are supposed to look like the Dead Tributes, but I don't see how that's anything special beyond physical appearance.Last edited by BRC; 2012-04-07 at 07:10 PM.
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2012-04-07, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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The muttations?
It explicitly says, "they were programmed to play with their prey psychologically." That's pretty close to an actual quote... lemme see if I can find it in the book.
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I'd just like to say that in Britain England, Hampshire we have a competition each year where we read 6 books voted in by the people who are in the year above us in school. We're 12/13 at the time and the first book was voted the best book out of the 6 that year.
The books that year weren't paticuerly good that year, but Suzanne Collins didn't turn up to the award ceremony so people in hampshire are a bit jaded against her.My extended signature.
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2012-04-08, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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What a terrible horrible good movie!
I've never read the books, so I can't complain about the myriad problems I'm sure there are. What I can complain about is the fact that at the beginning I was all "These rich people and the media and the government are despicable and I hope they die in a fiery explosion". The "Reaping" was just a horrible heart-wrenching scene.
Then of course the hunger games start and I start cheering for the main character and watching this battle royale as eagerly as the bad guys. SCREW YOU MOVIE!!!!
I enjoyed it and will watch the sequels and read the books.
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I did not watch the movie (or the book) but I think I know about the details about the Hungergames rules (spoilered due to sameness of the movies).
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2012-04-14, 06:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Reasonably sure the author researched almost nothing for the books anyway. There's just so much wrong in areas that are stupidly easy to research (i.e. 2 minutes on wikipedia) like archery, hunting, fishing, plants...
How did all that get by the 3 editors anyway?
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True fact: Authentic hunting is boring to watch.
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2012-04-16, 08:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh indeed
But "looking cool" is the end goal - a veneer of authenticity is how you get there. For instance, Katniss' initial hunting scene, where we see her stalking the deer - she trails it by reading stuff like bent saplings and tufts of fur caught on a rock, then whiffs her initial shot because she was upwind of the target (and uses the leaves as a brilliant way of conveying this to the audience without saying a word.) Then finally she relocates downwind and only flubs the second shot because ofJacobGale.
There's a lot there that does apply to real hunting - moving silently, staying downwind, tracing your target by the passage it leaves. And having her use that stuff is what makes it cool. (Even if in real life, her chances of navigating the woods both silently and without her neon pastiness giving her away to the target at a distance would be pretty slim.)Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2012-04-20, 03:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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What's this? The Hunger Games? You mean the Battle Royale ripoff?
I'm never going to watch the movie, never going to read the books. Because frankly I suspect they will be the most underwhelming pieces of fiction since the 32nd Xanth book. I just liked Battle Royale too much to take the same plot seriously when it's a popular children's book(I know a ten year old who loves it). It should be far too horrible for children to be reading, and if it's somehow presented in a way where it's not, then it's lessening the impact severely.
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2012-04-20, 03:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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I personally just finished reading the book . been waiting to see the movie.
I started reading some of this thread, but I think I need to see the movie first, then come back.
looks like I have to watch Battle Royale and Hunger Games . no problem...
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2012-04-20, 10:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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I've personally got to agree. I don't think Susanne Collins meant to rip of Battle Royale. Specifically, the way she skirts graphic depictions of death/gore indicates that she isn't attempting to capture the essence of Battle Royale. Rather, the events of the Games themselves are just a cog in the much larger plot. The third book ties in the developments of the games themselves into something bigger than any game.
Never mind that the rules and challenges are a little different.
Yeah, people like to point their nose to the sun and say its derivative of Battle Royale. Battle Royale is certainly good, if you like heaping spoonfuls of grimdark. But it's derivative in the same way Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a ripoff of Blade. . . honestly I can't recall which of the two examples came first, but the point is that a similar premise does not a rip-off make.
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Well, I just thought that this was a thread for sharing thoughts about the Hunger Games movie franchise, and so I thought I'd give my two cent's worth. If that is somehow unacceptable, than I apologize.
I've never actually seen the movie adaption of Battle Royale, merely read the book, and I do not see how knowing about either would be awe-inspiring. Or was that a joke?
I can see the similarities between Battle Royale and The Running Man, but I honestly don't think they can be compared. The Running Man has a completely different plot. Whereas Battle Royale and The Hunger Games are about ordinary people forced to fight one another to the death in an enclosed environment, The Running Man is about one man who is being hunted down by the authorities and can literally go anywhere to avoid them. Similar, but certainly different enough to both be enjoyed without feeling like you're reading the same story twice. Which you aren't.
Whereas to me, The Hunger Games has almost exactly the same story as Battle Royale, and I much prefer the writing style of the latter. Whether it is a rip-off or not is really impossible to determine, but I don't care to read a plot that has been done before, and done better, in the past. Of course, this is just my personal opinion, and I am certainly not trying to dissuade anyone from reading The Hunger Games. I'm sure it's a worthy book, just not my cup of tea, let's say.Last edited by Sneaky Weasel; 2012-04-22 at 01:10 AM.
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2012-04-22, 01:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Congratulations, all literature is meaningless under your definition. Because every story has been told (and arguably told better) in the past. People have pointed out that the Hunger Games is more than just the games themselves, and that the story it explores is different. If you still refuse to believe the story has any merit whatsoever because of a passing similarity to an older work that is your business. But if you have never actually read or viewed the material than I'm not sure you really have two cents to share.
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2012-04-22, 02:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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I did once start reading The Hunger Games, but left about halfway through because I didn't really like it. And while it can be said that every story has been told before, there are many stories that are an original and thought provoking take on some other story. Or stories that have been changed so that they are unrecognizable as having been done before. To me, The Hunger Games is just too derivative. However, I do not believe that it has 'no merit whatsoever', nor have I ever stated this. If something I said led you to believe that I had such an absolute viewpoint, then it was merely a misunderstanding of my intent. As I said before, I'm sure it's a worthy book, just not one I'm interested in reading. That's just an opinion, and I'm not trying to tell anyone else what they should or shouldn't read. I know there are some books that I like that have questionable merit, and I don't take offence if someone else dislikes them.
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Read the book, just saw the movie, and what really bugs me:
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The forest fire. At least from what I saw, there were only a few small streams, and the entire rest of the area would be highly flammable. Thus, the fire would spread far more quickly and further than it did (the movie explicitly shows the fire on a "minimap"). The gamemasters do have quite a bit of control over the arena, but I don't believe they could have put it out very easily; they'd probably have to douse the whole area for hours (though this could have happened offscreen). Any thoughts?
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SpoilerIn the books they showed that the gamemasters had control over everything from the temperature, to the weather, to whether or not the streams and lakes even contained water. The fire went out off screen in the book as well, but with the rest of the craziness that the gamemaster did there, it wasn't so hard to rationalize. In the movie however, they weren't shown to have quite as much control of every aspect of the areana as in the books, and the lack of fire damage was a bit of a head scratcher.
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