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    Rule 1: Don't sleep with the crazy.

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    Rule 3: For 12 God's Sakes, don't let your boyfriend-turned-manager hire the crazy to be part of your band. Especially not when there's two people covered by that statement.
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    Honestly, this whole thing with Zii and Sonya is kind of Erik's fault. Zii knew that Sonya was a weirdo and a temptation for her, and she actively tried to stay away from her as much as possible. Erik, on the other hand, didn't care what Zii wanted or what potential problems she might have. He basically put her back into Zii's life over her objections and then conspired to leave them alone together saying it was a test.

    If someone is a recovering alcoholic, you're supposed to help them stay clean, not lock them in a room with a bottle of Jack as a "test." That's just stupid. So if Zii does end up cheating with Sonya, I don't feel too bad for Erik. He's practically begging for it.
    Zii knew, Erik didn't. Also, her objections were with regards to Sonya's musical skills, which were apparently awesome, judging by Erik's reaction and later Zii's reaction while playing as a band for the first time.

    It's more like giving a bottle of whiskey to someone who says "I don't drink whiskey because I don't like the labels on the bottles." without knowing that they're trying to come up with an excuse instead of saying they're a recovering alcoholic.
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    I read Erik agreeing that it was a test more as him saying that he believed in Zii's musical abilities and ability to lead the band, and just being completely oblivious to the Zii/Sonya interplay.

    On the other hand, maybe he thinks that kind of tension makes for better music.

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    I read Erik agreeing that it was a test more as him saying that he believed in Zii's musical abilities and ability to lead the band, and just being completely oblivious to the Zii/Sonya interplay.

    On the other hand, maybe he thinks that kind of tension makes for better music.
    Maybe he thinks it will increase the odds of a mnage trois.
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    Gary finally takes after his Star Trek heroes: Boldly going where no man has gone before.

    ....Or, at least, introducing this strange emotion called 'love' to exotic hotties.....

    And about damn time, too!
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    Why is the guy with practically zilch sexual experience better at this than any of the sapphic seoritas she has known?
    And yes, I do mean biblically.
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    Why is the guy with practically zilch sexual experience better at this than any of the sapphic seoritas she has known?
    And yes, I do mean biblically.
    Because Dillon struck a deal with some supernatural force to learn the Ultimate Oral Sex Technique, and was kind enough to share it with Gary. It apparently doesn't matter who is doing it, the Swirly-go-round is Just That Good.

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    Because Dillon struck a deal with some supernatural force to learn the Ultimate Oral Sex Technique, and was kind enough to share it with Gary. It apparently doesn't matter who is doing it, the Swirly-go-round is Just That Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens_cry View Post
    Why is the guy with practically zilch sexual experience better at this than any of the sapphic seoritas she has known?
    And yes, I do mean biblically.
    It makes Gary desirable; thus, it advances the plotline.

    Gary using it here is the equivalent of laying down a bunt with no one on base. You don't give away outs for no reason Gary!

    Now, if he had a runner on 3rd, then it would be a squeeze play that could bring home a run. Unfortuntely, with Yuki, he won't ever get into scoring position. He should wait until Sonya gets on the mound; or perhaps Kiley as Gary has a very good on-base percentage with her pitching.

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    Gary using it here is the equivalent of laying down a bunt with no one on base. You don't give away outs for no reason Gary!

    Now, if he had a runner on 3rd, then it would be a squeeze play that could bring home a run. Unfortuntely, with Yuki, he won't ever get into scoring position. He should wait until Sonya gets on the mound; or perhaps Kiley as Gary has a very good on-base percentage with her pitching.
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    I'm guessing it's something kinda like this.
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    Think of it as a kind of weird Yankee cricket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    Speaking as an Englander..... who do what, now?

    I'm guessing it's something kinda like this.
    More or less. Baseball lends itself well to crude metaphors. My overall point is that Gary isn't going to be sexually satisified because Yuki cannot reciprocate and he'd be better off using these "tactics" on Sonja or Kiley.

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    Speaking as an Englander..... who do what, now?

    I'm guessing it's something kinda like this.
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    Yes, but he's an idiot.

    Or naively hoping that pleasing her will somehow help her get over being crazier than a coconut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    Yes, but he's an idiot.

    Or naively hoping that pleasing her will somehow help her get over being crazier than a coconut.
    Sounds about right. Maybe she'll indeed be less crazy when in heat. (Unlikely, but hey...)

    (And it's a lot better than the wax option. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    Speaking as an Englander..... who do what, now?

    I'm guessing it's something kinda like this.
    Hey don't feel bad. I'm from the US and I had a really hard time following the metaphor. Frankly there comes a point when using baseball as a metaphor for sexy fun time stuff just doesn't work very well.

    I'm thinking Gary's sudden desire to use the swirly go round (or whatever Dillon called it way back) had a lot more to do with "hot wax BAD" [/Frankenstein Monster voice] than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    Yes, but he's an idiot.

    Or naively hoping that pleasing her will somehow help her get over being crazier than a coconut.
    He's more of a wimp than an idiot.

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    It makes Gary desirable; thus, it advances the plotline.
    Yes, yes, but I was hoping for something besides a Doylist answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    Yes, but he's an idiot.

    Or naively hoping that pleasing her will somehow help her get over being crazier than a coconut.
    Makes sense.

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    Aah, the Bioware approach. Have sex with character to solve psychological issues.
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    As for the baseball metaphor... I got it was baseball but... I'm German and the only sport metaphors I'm likely to get are soccer ones. So I stopped reading halfway through.


    I have no idea - no reasonable idea - how the swirly can be that good (maybe Yuki didn't go out with that many girls/the swirly is just THAT GOOD) but as for Gary's reasoning...
    a) He's just trying to be a nice guy and help her feel good
    b) he wants her to calm down (okay, not calm down but...)
    c) he thinks it's expected of him
    d) what Succubus said
    e) what Eldan said.

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    Maybe he just thinks any kind of sex is better then none?
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    Or maybe he's one of those guys that derives a great deal of pleasure from seeing his amour enjoying themselves intensely. We do exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Succubus View Post
    Or maybe he's one of those guys that derives a great deal of pleasure from seeing his amour enjoying themselves intensely. We do exist.
    Uh, yeah. That. Maybe he just enjoys giving his girlfriend pleasure. Hardly a crazy notion.
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    Yes, but he's an idiot.
    Well, that's a little bit hars-.... Oh, you mean Gary. Fair enough.

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    Hey don't feel bad. I'm from the US and I had a really hard time following the metaphor. Frankly there comes a point when using baseball as a metaphor for sexy fun time stuff just doesn't work very well.
    No kidding! From what I know of Baseball, it's actually a really horrible metaphor for really bad sexual behaviour.

    Think about it: There's a guy using his best moves to 'pitch' at the batter.

    Either the batter takes a two-handed club and swats the first guy's balls 400 yards over a wall and into oblivion, or the batter is completely taken in by the pitcher's moves and ends up walking, alone and ashamed, back to their bench to the jeers and laughter of the hundreds - if not, thousands - of people watching.....

    ....Just another typical game on a Saturday morning. If You Know What I Mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopy13a View Post
    He's more of a wimp than an idiot.
    But he's still a bit of both. There's a touch of mental silliness in forgetting that he's a man in a chauvinistic society and thus is allowed to say no.

    Really, the more bizarre Gary shows himself to be for growing up in North America as a man, the more I have to wonder about his almost completely blank backstory that doesn't even really have any kind of vague hints about why he's so messed up.

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    Uh, yeah. That. Maybe he just enjoys giving his girlfriend pleasure. Hardly a crazy notion.
    Usually one has to actually... knowingly experience something to know that one likes it.

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    Maybe he just thinks any kind of sex is better then none?
    I dunno, he doesn't seem particularly enlightened even for his portrayal of the new man as a pushover, if I recall his reaction to homosexuality and trans* individuals and issues.

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    I have no idea - no reasonable idea - how the swirly can be that good (maybe Yuki didn't go out with that many girls/the swirly is just THAT GOOD) but as for Gary's reasoning...
    Gay magic. I believe Dillon all but blatantly states that outright on one or two occasions.

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    Either the batter takes a two-handed club and swats the first guy's balls 400 yards over a wall and into oblivion, or the batter is completely taken in by the pitcher's moves and ends up walking, alone and ashamed, back to their bench to the jeers and laughter of the hundreds - if not, thousands - of people watching.....

    ....Just another typical game on a Saturday morning. If You Know What I Mean.
    Nah, it's either too hot or they're too drunk to notice by the time that it's not too hot to laugh.

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    But this DOES have potential for later on. Its still baby steps, but now she knows that gary can give her some great pleasure. It might help her get over her fears a bit if she knows for a fact that there is something good waiting for her. Up till now she has just had a traumatic childhood event to teach her about what guys can do for her. All her happy thoughts have come from other girls.
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    I dunno, he doesn't seem particularly enlightened even for his portrayal of the new man as a pushover, if I recall his reaction to homosexuality and trans* individuals and issues.
    A straight man being scared of or uncomfortable around homo and transsexuals is hardly an uncommon thing and is pretty understandable IMO.

    Don't really see how this relates to him being with Yuki right now anyways, yeah she primarily dated girls but the fact that she's dating him now shows she's at the very least bi, that's not even taking into account the fact that she may have only turned to girls due to her condition preventing any form of relationship with boys. Further even if she is Bi the fact that she is female, to Gary who is obviously a heterosexual, makes the entire thing rather moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    I dunno, he doesn't seem particularly enlightened even for his portrayal of the new man as a pushover, if I recall his reaction to homosexuality and trans* individuals and issues.
    A straight man being scared of or uncomfortable around homo and transsexuals is hardly an uncommon thing and is pretty understandable IMO.

    Don't really see how this relates to him being with Yuki right now anyways, yeah she primarily dated girls but the fact that she's dating him now shows she's at the very least bi, that's not even taking into account the fact that she may have only turned to girls due to her condition preventing any form of relationship with boys. Further even if she is Bi the fact that she is female, to Gary who is obviously a heterosexual, makes the entire thing rather moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    A straight man being scared of or uncomfortable around homo and transsexuals is hardly an uncommon thing and is pretty understandable IMO.
    Let's just say I'd have to disagree with you on that last one, given the usual reasons that straight men are "scared" of LGBT individuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    Don't really see how this relates to him being with Yuki right now anyways, yeah she primarily dated girls but the fact that she's dating him now shows she's at the very least bi, that's not even taking into account the fact that she may have only turned to girls due to her condition preventing any form of relationship with boys. Further even if she is Bi the fact that she is female, to Gary who is obviously a heterosexual, makes the entire thing rather moot.
    If he's so undeveloped as to be that way about LGBT issues, then it's strange that he doesn't hold some of the bundled up chauvinist views about a woman's body, at least to, y'know, discomfit or dirtiness or the like.

    But, really, I was more calling into question whether he'd really view it as sex due to his apparently ...unrefined experience of the world.
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