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    Huh. I don't think I have any nonmagical items, then.
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    Huh. I don't think I have any nonmagical items, then.
    I'm sure Gheed has a fantastic array of 1-GP nickel jewelry for you if you want.
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    The emerald eyes of the dragon set into this circlet somehow seem alive and alert.

    The circlet's draconic senses supplement your own, granting you blindsense out to a distance of 30 feet and a +2 bonus on Search and Spot checks. You also become more sly and cunning, gaining a +2 enhancement bonus to Intelligence, and a +3 competence bonus on all charisma-based checks.

    Huzzah!

    Unfortunately, Tatsuhiro already has blindsense 20 from Draconic Senses. Can they either stack in radius, or stack up to Blindsight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post
    I'm sure Gheed has a fantastic array of 1-GP nickel jewelry for you if you want.
    Does it matter what kind of item we give?
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    Oh. Right. He has Blindsense. I've totally remembered that in every encounter so far.

    I am hereby nerfing the item down from granting Blindsense down to increasing the radius of the wearer's existing Blindsense.

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    Does it matter what kind of item we give?
    The slot matters, yes.
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    Hi guys. I'm back (again). Since there are no earthquake-level upsets detected in my life's future, I'm gonna give this another shot with Ernir's blessing.

    Ernir, would you have any problems with a Bard/Maven of the Strings? I operate under the impression that no-cost abilities with a cooldown can only be used in an encounter, if that affects your judgment in any way.

    Edit: I've been considering adding 3/5 Bard casting to the Maven, with losses at 1st and 5th. I'll wait to see what you think before updating the class, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post
    Oh. Right. He has Blindsense. I've totally remembered that in every encounter so far.

    I am hereby nerfing the item down from granting Blindsense down to increasing the radius of the wearer's existing Blindsense.
    I blame mythweavers, it simply doesn't have a good place to list these things. And, spiffy! ^^ I'm not exactly sure what I'll do with Blindsense given I already see invisible things and have two separate sources of Darkvision. Can those stack too? Pretty please?
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    Can you give us a rundown of what the slots amount to, then?
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    Stealing from the party bank. Also, typing is hard when you feel like Mt. Rushmore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarian View Post
    Hi guys. I'm back (again). Since there are no earthquake-level upsets detected in my life's future, I'm gonna give this another shot with Ernir's blessing.

    Ernir, would you have any problems with a Bard/Maven of the Strings? I operate under the impression that no-cost abilities with a cooldown can only be used in an encounter, if that affects your judgment in any way.
    My only "problem" is that PPR is switching out the healer for a Bard-type.

    He's going in a very different direction, but if you both have your eyes on a Bard base, you probably want to collaborate to minimize the overlap...
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    I blame mythweavers, it simply doesn't have a good place to list these things. And, spiffy! ^^ I'm not exactly sure what I'll do with Blindsense given I already see invisible things and have two separate sources of Darkvision. Can those stack too? Pretty please?
    Pff, I'll modify the supposed-to-be-moderately-synergistic item, not your build choices.
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    Can you give us a rundown of what the slots amount to, then?
    Mostly this.
    Also, I steal properties from printed items in the same/similar slot.

    I was going to make up some real Gygaxian-sized tables to come up with appropriate stuff, but ended up deciding that picking out a lot of semi-random decent-looking stuff and rolling when I can't decide which ones to throw on was a less painful way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post
    My only "problem" is that PPR is switching out the healer for a Bard-type.

    He's going in a very different direction, but if you both have your eyes on a Bard base, you probably want to collaborate to minimize the overlap...
    I noticed that shortly after I posted, actually. By then I had already put so much mental effort into the Bard I said "screw it, I'll make this work" and decided to make a second fear-stacking Bard (secondarily, anyhow. Primarily a buff-bot.). Panic for everyone! It isn't overlap if they work together, right?

    Did you see my Edit re: the Maven, Ernir?

    Edit: Here's a preview. Can I get my hat enchanted before I finish spending my wealth, or do I have to take a shot in the dark?

    Edit the second: I operate under the impression that Words of Creation affects only the base values of the songs, by the way.
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    Are rings an option?

    Biggest problem for me is that I don't really get a huge benefits from items, I guess. I mean, besides my Circlet of Intellect, all the other items are simply things I thought might end up being useful, not anything I really need.
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    Uh, Rausdower? It looks like some Gremlin ate half of Sern's sheet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarian View Post
    I noticed that shortly after I posted, actually. By then I had already put so much mental effort into the Bard I said "screw it, I'll make this work" and decided to make a second fear-stacking Bard (secondarily, anyhow. Primarily a buff-bot.). Panic for everyone! It isn't overlap if they work together, right?
    Ask PPR, not me!

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    Did you see my Edit re: the Maven, Ernir?
    Just now.
    But sounds good.

    I wouldn't have built one of these myself without any casting.

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    Edit: Here's a preview. Can I get my hat enchanted before I finish spending my wealth, or do I have to take a shot in the dark?
    Sudden Stunning can have its duration nerfed down to 1 round.
    It's the biggest gimme-enhancement ever. Even if you don't have any Charisma to support it.

    What is a Mask of the Matriarch?

    Everyone else is taking a shot in the dark, think it's only fair you do it too.
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    Edit the second: I operate under the impression that Words of Creation affects only the base values of the songs, by the way.
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    Are rings an option?

    Biggest problem for me is that I don't really get a huge benefits from items, I guess. I mean, besides my Circlet of Intellect, all the other items are simply things I thought might end up being useful, not anything I really need.
    Yes, rings are an option.

    And yes, that's the problem with playing with a subsystem with limited item support. =/

    For what it's worth, I didn't intend for any of these items to become the cornerstone of a build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post
    Sudden Stunning can have its duration nerfed down to 1 round.
    It's the biggest gimme-enhancement ever. Even if you don't have any Charisma to support it.
    A very deserved nerf, even if I have all the melee competence of a 9-year old child.

    What is a Mask of the Matriarch?
    Drow of the Underdark, page 100ish. Panicking gaze attack, Will DC 20 negates.

    Everyone else is taking a shot in the dark, think it's only fair you do it too.
    Fair enough. Is it fair to leave 4.5k unspent to purchase things in the camp, then? Done!

    This hat has two very fine feathers on it, and I want them back in one piece once she's done pounding it with the Malus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post
    For what it's worth, I didn't intend for any of these items to become the cornerstone of a build.
    Not being a conerstone is okay, but it is nice to get something useful. And I'm not really sure what the item could be that would be useful to me, at least at the moment.
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    Hi guys. I'm back (again). Since there are no earthquake-level upsets detected in my life's future, I'm gonna give this another shot with Ernir's blessing.
    OMG hi Jarian! Welcome back.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post
    My only "problem" is that PPR is switching out the healer for a Bard-type.
    Actually..

    I started selecting spells and immediately had the "BLAAARGH $^&%^&*&^! I'm selecting spells for a caster again..." nauseating reaction.

    Sooo... I've gone in a different direction, and ended up with a Fighter Incarnate 11. It's mostly done except items.

    I still have some fear-based ability (Path of the Lion's Heart + Imperious Command) but I think there's plenty of room for debuffing enemies, especially considering our group is losing the healer and will need some good ways to limit the incoming damage if we want to have everyone live through the fight.

    I went with a broad spectrum of abilities so I'm not locked into the "I attack again" syndrome. We'll see how much it helps, and if I'm at too low of a level of optimization. Crossing my fingers...

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    Ask PPR, not me!
    I'm all good. Turns out I didn't really want to play a bard any way. And really, once I started realizing that I could make a pretty solid facsimile of a D2 barbarian with the Fighter Incarnate chassis, it was pretty much a foregone conclusion for this game :D
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    Well, that clears things up, doesn't it?

    In that case, I'm ready to rightclick-lute as soon as Ernir approves the finished build.

    (Get it? Lute? Loot? Haha... ha... ha. )

    Edit: After looking at the other character sheets, I've decided that Edmond's theme song will be 20,000 XP Under the Sea.
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    Soon, she will be doing all the damage. Yes, even though she's a bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post
    Uh, Rausdower? It looks like some Gremlin ate half of Sern's sheet.
    I know, and I've been working on a Mythweaver's sheet ever since. Filling in the tables for weight, abilities, and costs gave me a case of mega-boredom. But here it is finally finished.

    http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetvie...sheetid=390272
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    Who feels like he got the shortest stick of the imbue quest so far?

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    Oh, FFS. Is that the third or the fourth replacement concept, PPR?

    The only thing about the build that has caught my eye is that you don't have the initiator level to know Pouncing Charge and Dancing Mongoose.
    Also, you already have Pounce.

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    Nothing objectionable caught so far. Consider it approved.

    Time to see how scary Imperious Command is on this side of the DM screen.
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    Drow of the Underdark, page 100ish. Panicking gaze attack, Will DC 20 negates.
    Okay.
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    This hat has two very fine feathers on it, and I want them back in one piece once she's done pounding it with the Malus.
    One hat coming up Soon tomorrow!
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    Not row-row-row your boat, blazing down the XP stream?
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    Huh. Bout what I feared.

    how long do the activated effects last?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post
    Not row-row-row your boat, blazing down the XP stream?
    It never quite works out that way, I've found.

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    Huh. Bout what I feared.

    how long do the activated effects last?
    Assuming the caster level on the item is correct, 20 minutes for the Silence (or until dismissed) and 1 round for Gust of Wind.

    Could be wrong though.
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    Oh, FFS. Is that the third or the fourth replacement concept, PPR?
    I know, I know, I know.... On the other hand, I played Mariah for a looooooooong time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post
    The only thing about the build that has caught my eye is that you don't have the initiator level to know Pouncing Charge and Dancing Mongoose.
    Also, you already have Pounce.
    Ok, I re-ordered my feats to take Mage Slayer at 9 and Martial Study at 11, at which point I have the initiator level for Pouncing Charge and Dancing Mongoose.Edit: bah see my response a bunch of posts later.

    I do sorta have Pounce, but I don't plan on having the Hand focus active very often.. hence, I don't really have it. And I wanted Sudden Leap, and it seemed a shame not to use my low-level maneuvers to qualify for better ones, and Pouncing Charge and Dancing Mongoose seem like the best of the Tiger Claw moves that I qualify for. So... *shrug*.

    Ok, my new char pretty much complete. I still need to go through and tally up some things (attack bonus w/Determination, etc.), but all my skills, feats, class features, and items are done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernir View Post

    Time to see how scary Imperious Command is on this side of the DM screen.
    Funny story, I got a DM of mine so annoyed by a fear-based Dragonfire Adept of mine that he focused me nearly every encounter with grapple based enemies (Str 8 means no-grappley for me). After grappling demons, grappling bandits and grappling apes, character met his demise being grappled then eaten by a giant snake. Good times.
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    So, what are the plans to deal with the sudden lack of Mariah's huge amounts of healing? Edmond can UMD everything up to 6th level scrolls with 100% reliability (so, heal and everything below), but I could only afford a single scroll of heal for emergencies. Thoughts?
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    Strategically? I think a TP scroll to town to heal up is going to be easily the most efficient healing for the money.

    Tactically? We'll have to work together to limit incoming damage.

    And really, I sat on my hands for the first few rounds of most fights, because Mariah had no one to heal and had no offense. Having an extra attacker in the first few rounds should hopefully change the complexion of many fights.



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    I guess we will see how these next few fights go.

    Keep in mind, I'm planning on changing characters sometime soon, so we might get a good healer again.
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    So am I correct in assuming that no one had issues with me nabbing that ring?

    Edit - Also, while I'm here would it be difficult to get shield spikes added to my shield?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavar View Post
    I guess we will see how these next few fights go.

    Keep in mind, I'm planning on changing characters sometime soon, so we might get a good healer again.
    Fair enough. I'll try to stop worrying about my 78 HP then.
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