[IC] TW:epic fantasy

[Nemesis67]

Jack Collective

Morale: +++

To the Corrupted (PM)

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I would have to say I'd prefer a different target than those three. We'd prefer to be on friendly terms with the Consortium, and the Venetians have the capability to blockade us from all sea travel. Though my sources say they would prefer staying out of wars, they're willing to protect their trade, and the Vale and them are discussing trade agreements, so I'm not sure what such an action would provoke them to do. I think the Collective must deliberate among ourselves on a choice of target...

-Jack 35

OOC: If it's alright by you, I'd prefer to wait till oblivion posts the NPC stats before we choose a target. I'd like to know the gain (eco) versus the cost (mil and navy). No sense walking into a war unknowingly.

To the Gnomes:

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Other than the airships, what sorts of technologies are you offering to sell? Depending on how the next few months go, the Collective may need to mend some shortcomings... We'd prefer to know our options before it comes to that.

-Jack 35

[Grimsage Matt]

Deep Trolls
Morale 3

To the venetian isles

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A troll appears at one of your ships docked on the mainland, and request that he speak to your leaders.

To the Vale

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A Troll appears in one of your mines and requests to speak to your leader.

To the corrupted

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We may be hasty, but we have long memories, and the last time a helltouched army was on this world, it nearly burned. And there were times before that. So, while we do not trust you, and to be honest see you as a ticking time bomb, it's mostly because of what your "kin" have done in the past.That being said, we might trade with you, but would like to see how you conduct yourselves first.

[ragingrage]

The Corrupted MOR: +++++ +

To the Jack Collective (PM)

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((Yeah, I was just proposing some ideas.))
We understand your caution, and it is definitely a wise action. However, we take it that you do accept the idea?

To the Deep Trolls

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Well, as long as you give us a chance, that is acceptable. In addition, might we ask for this tale of what happened the last time a helltouched army came? All your references to it have made more than a few messengers curious.

[Grimsage Matt]

Deep Trolls
Morale 3

To the corrupted

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About 523,173 years ago, there was the 5th hell invasion. It started because of a young idiot who wanted power fast started delving into the spirt world. He found power all right. At first, he could control it. He even tought it to students over a period of about 500 years. Of course our cousins brought the doom down on themselves. Because one day, "their" power surged out of control and they were subsumed by it. And what did they do? They ripped open massive portals to hell. Imagine a war that lasts over 50,000 years. Our hold never fell, but our cousins, either they sold themselves to hell, or they turned to even darker powers of the grave itself. As it began in a single night, it ended in a single day. The jaws of hell were slamed shut by the High Thane, and he killed every last hellspawn on the contenit. But the years between the opening and the closing, we don't speak of them. But there is a poem you can read, called the Lament of Ashes.

[ragingrage]

The Corrupted Morale: +++++ +

To the Deep Trolls

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How interesting. It is always good to brush up on ones history, don't you think?
((Also, the funny thing is, that because of all the communications we are having; people probably think we're planning something ))

[oblivion6]

vale to deep trolls[PM]

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you are met by a team of soldiers that appear to be from several different nations. these soldiers takeyou to the local councilmen

"what can we do for you troll?"

gnomes to the corrupted[+++++]

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we accept your proposal. we will prepare to ship your order immediantly

gnomes to jacks collective[+++++]

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what kind of technologies are you looking for? we have many kinds, military or otherwise.

dwarves to the corrupted[++++]

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we will accept any hep you can offer. time to teach these filthy beasts a lesson. we can field a force of maybe [+++++ +] at this time

fire giants to corrupted[+++++ +]

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as of now we can field an army of [+++++]. with about [+++] more available from our mountan kin

[hydroplatypus]

The Venetian Isles
Morale: +

To the Deep trolls

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The troll is escorted to the offices of a diplomat of the Venetian Isles. The diplomat looks up and says So a representative of the trolls comes to greet us. So tell us, which of the troll bands do you represent? the War trolls looking for a contract? or one of the other clans?

[ragingrage]

The Corrupted Morale: +++++ +

To the Gnomes:

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Thank you. The wealth and science materials are on their way.

To the Dwarves

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If you would have us, we would field a force of [++++-] mil to aid in driving out the goblins once and for all. Hopefully we could be reclaiming your stolen tunnels by [next turn]

To the Fire Giants

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We thank you for your promise of assistance, and know that with your and the mountain giant's aid we will be able to deliver the Harmonians a blow that they will not soon forget.

[Grimsage Matt]

Deep Trolls
Morale 3

To the corrupted (But anyone can read)

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The Lament of Ashes

Old were the forests,
Long had the moutains stood vigil,
Where the three kindred walked,
Children of the song.

In the woodlands fair,
The Aeoals'kivlr,
Wise and blessed,
World song in veins.

On the highest peaks,
Did the Joln'toh-or stand,
Their watch unending,
Their honor unbreaking.

In the deepest reachs,
The Grim'volskarm,
Forged the tools of old,
And understood the song best.

But in the shade,
of the great trees,
one sought songs
that were not ment to be.

Yol'niols-hur,
Great of mind and will,
sought where no others went,
the cold grey fields.

And there he found a new song,
A pit of flaming shadows,
Power to shape new songs,
whispered the shadowy flame.

And so he agreed,
To the pact primevil,
and wove a new song,
not yet done.

And when he returned,
All could see,
A new song was whispering,
smoke in the woodlands.

He gathered his freinds,
And he taught them,
The songs of Ash and Shadow,
Of Binding and Power.

And for a short while,
A mere half a thousand years,
Blance was kept,
And the choking ash held at bay.

But one night,
The song grew to a roar,
And the Binder became the bound,
And the Pit of Ash laughed.

Driven by Fury,
Driven by Pain,
They tore the world song asunder,
And let the Ashen legion in.

Burning was their song,
No balance,
Patient Domination,
Swift conquest.

But ash broke on the peaks,
As they would not yield,
even as the woodlands,
swore to darkness or ash.

The Toh-or never faltered,
Duty was clear as glass,
And Demons broke on the peaks,
Till the lords of Ash came.

Bealrog and Balor,
Pit Fiend and Ultraloth,
Dark Vulkj all,
And sorely did they contest.

And from the deeps,
The Grim came forth,
Weilding blades of deep caft,
And hidden song.

Elokijh The Bealrog,
Niuhhgug The Balor,
Asemodus Of the Pit,
Yul'uiln of the Grey Ash.

The captins of the host,
clashed with the Jarls,
And our Thanes,
Till only the Dealmaker was left.

Sweeping all before him,
On a tide of ash,
And temptation,
The day grew dark with Hellfire.

But the day was not lost,
For Doom entered the Fray,
Father of Trolls,
Smith of Worlds.

The High Thane brought
The Deepest of Songs,
And smote the ruby Devil,
And sent him bleeding to fall back to hell.

Then turning to those,
That still came,
Sang the Songs of Planes,
And threw them down.

Then looking at the holes,
Forged them shut,
And sang new walls between,
To keep the Ash at bay.

The Aeoals'kivlr were lost,
Now belonging to ash,
Or the Grey Fields,
Forever sworn and bound.

Our lost kindrend we hear,
Through the echos of Song,
Hulashnim-Hur Ashen betrayers,
Shasul'miun-Tul Darkened in fear.

The woodlands of the young world,
Forever ashes,
Young hills not yet mountains,
Frozen glass.

We mourn for the world,
And the sorrows wrought,
For the Kindred lost,
And the ashes that remain.

To the Venetian Isles

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I represent the Deep Trolls. We're planing on returing to the surface, and are also planing on reopening one of our ports. We wish to exist in peace, and so we don't wish to offend the world primer naval power. As is our custom, we have a gift for you. One of our Stainless steel blades. They will never rust.

To the Vale(PM)

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"I'm From the Deep Trolls. We are returing to the affairs of the surface, and are contact those who have lands above us. To be entirely honest, one of your mines is almost at one of our city caverns. We wish only for peace, and some trade. We also have a gift, as is our custom." He pulls out what seems to be a iron grey shirt. "It's made from woven Iron. Not as good as armor, but it'll do aginst most daggers."

To the Fire giants

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Hail cousins! We're plaing on unsealing the Gates of Khazam-Yohkax. As it was partialy yours in the olden days, would you like to return there?

[ragingrage]

The Corrupted Morale: +++++ +

To the Deep Trolls

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...Very nice.

((Is that your work, or did you take it from something? Either way, very nicely done.))

[Grimsage Matt]

To the corrupted

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Thank you.

OOC; I wrote it To be honest, it's a first draft I kinda made it up after you said that it was a good idea to brush up on oes history.

[oblivion6]

to grimsage and ragingrage only

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yes that is a very nice poem. of course im sure the corrupted will make sure to erase all copys of it when they take over the world

[ragingrage]

To Grimsage/DM

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Never.
The Corrupted may be touched by demons.
They may, yes, dream of taking over the world.
They may be treacherous and conniving.
But they do not waste evil.
They do not foolishly refuse allies.
They do not destroy music and song -- For it is a great pacifier of the conquered.
They would not destroy something that seems great.
Something that, contained within it, is a the story of a people, a war, destruction and salvation.
They do not waste evil.

[Grimsage Matt]

To the DM

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Eh, we survided a few hundred thousand years of hellish assult. And besides, while us Trolls may have grown old and died, The High Thane is the same as he ever is. Consider us to have a nuke who's polite and only intervenes if aboultly nessecary. Besides, we have some ideas kicking around...

DM/Ragingrage

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Nice one.

[oblivion6]

grimsage/ragingrage

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that was a good one. i like your brand of evil.

perhaps to counter you i will make sure emperor xhanahad of the orisian empire and his goblinoid hordes find their own way to this world and destroy the corrupted. their alliance was with the salvation army not the corrupted so they would have no qualms with destroying you

[Grimsage Matt]

To DM

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Or we could use the High Thane? Think Truenaming Baernoloth

[ragingrage]

The Corrupted Morale: +++++ +

To GM/Grimsage

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Oh, nostalgia...that was a good game. I like having Mil as a production stat...

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To the Rozarian Empire

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We have recently procured blueprints to the making of cannons, an invention we think you may be interested in. If so, please contact us so we can work out a deal.

To the Isle of Dhevan

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Greetings! We have recently procured blueprints to the making of cannons, an invention we think you may be interested in. If so, please contact us so we can work out a deal.

[hydroplatypus]

The Venetian Isles
morale: +

To the Deep Trolls

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The diplomat looks over the blade, and thanks to troll, saying Indeed this is a fine gift. It will be greatly appreciated. So, the deep trolls. We hadn't expected to have relations with you for a while now as we thought you intended to stay an inland power. He pauses and thinks for a moment, then motions a guard to leave. The diplomat continues The Venetian Isles has recently been looking to expand its trading network, and one able to compete with the gnomes for technology would certainly be a good trading partner. The guard is going to fetch our minister of trade to propose an agreement. She should arrive shortly.

[Grimsage Matt]

The Deep Trolls
Morale 3

To the Venetian Isles

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Thank you, I look forword to meeting her.

[Nemesis67]

Jack Collective

Morale: +++

To the Gnomes:

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Technologies with either a combat application or capable of improving our intelligence networks are what we are interested at the moment. While we don't have much funds to purchase them from you at the moment, we hope to have deeper coffers in the coming weeks.

-Jack 35

To the Corrupted (PM)

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I believe the Vale may actually be a good target. At the least, we can seize the resource they've harvested recently and make a decent profit off of them. I doubt the Venetians will go to war over a single raid. And the Collective's role in this is to sneak you in and out, correct? So, ideally, neither you nor I could be traced back to executing it... We're ready when you have the troops to spare. (Presumably next turn?)

-Jack 35

[hydroplatypus]

The Venetian Isles
morale: +

To the Deep trolls

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After a few minutes of waiting Caterina di Franco walks into the room to speak with the troll ambassador. Motioning for the initial representative to leave, she begins making a proposal to the Troll representative.

The Venetian Naval League is interested in expanding its trade relations with the other coastal and island nations in the world, and with you opening up a new port you certainly qualify. In fact you would be much more beneficial than most as you possess technology to rival the gnomes. What I propose is that we sign a treaty to start trade relations as soon as the port is completed. A clerk is drafting it as we speak, however there are a few key points. The first is that tariffs be nonexistant between our two nations, in order to ensure a rapid economic expansion. We would also like to arrange for the future possibilities of technology transfer. That would of course be negotiated in detail later, however some ground rules for later would be helpful. What do you think of the arrangement.

[Grimsage Matt]

Deep Trolls

To the Venetian Isles

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It will take us a few months to unseal our port, and will be happy with what you have proposed.

[ragingrage]

The Corrupted

To the Jack Collective (PM)

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The Vale do seem a good target. As we are preoccupied (as you probably know) this turn, next turn does seem like it would be a good test run.

[Grimsage Matt]

The Deep Trolls
Morale 3

To everyone who's had diplomatic talks with the Deep Trolls

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As the world runs off trade, we'd like to bring the possibillity of a Steam powered Rail line that connects several nations to your attention. The Rail line would allow for increased trade, mobillity and speed of communications. We'd be resposible for it's operation and upkeep, but imagine the benifit it would bring to your nations.

[oblivion6]

dwarves to corrupted[+++++]

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we will accept your aid in this endevor

rozarian empire/isle of dhevan to corrupted

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they both accept yur proposal

consortium to venetian isle[PM]

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OOC:sorry turns out i accidently addressed their response to the vale somehow

it is a good treaty. however we are perpetually neutral in the continents politics so we will not sign any non aggression pacts or anything of that nature

harmonioum empire to the venetian isle[PM]

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we agree to the terms of the treaty

gnomes to jacks collective[PM]

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i will detail what they have for sale in the quicktopic at the beginning of the next turn

[hydroplatypus]

The Venetian Isles
morale: +

To the Deep Troll ambassador

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I am glad that you like our offer. The treaty should be here in a few moments.

After a few moments a clerk arrives with a treaty in hand. Caterina takes if from him and saysThis is the treaty with basically what we discussed. The wording will be different, and there will be some secondary clauses that we haven't discussed yet due to the rushed nature of these talks. Keep in mind that this is a first draft, and as such the points contained within are negotiable if disagreeable to you.

She then presents the treaty to the ambasator. It says the following

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Both nations signing this treaty agree to the following

1. To lower barriers to trade, and otherwise allow for the easy flow of good with the other signatory nation.

2. To do their best to stop troubles concerning their nation from disrupting trade. Exceptions for outright war.

3. As best as the signatory nations are able they will attempt to protect trade routes from pirates, and other bodies that would disrupt the flow of trade.

4. Should an officially recognized nation attempt to disrupt trade the signatory nations will both attempt to get rid of this pressure as best as they are able, short of war.

5. The nations shall undertake no efforts to put up any new trade barriers towards the other signatory nations, and shall not encourage other nations to do so.

6. agree to the temporary suspension of the treaties obligations in the event of a war, contingent on informing the other party of the war, its reasons for existing, and what conditions they are not going to fulfill.

The Venetian Isles also agree to the following
7. If the contract must be canceled at a later date at the request of the Venetian Isles the Trolls are entitled to compensation in the amount of {+++ + temp econ, delivered over the course of 2 turns}

The Trolls also agree to the following
8. If the contract must be canceled at a later date at the request of the Trolls the Venetian Isles will be compensated by the gift of technology from the Trolls. Unless both parties agree upon different technology this technology shall have the purpose of upgrading the Venetian Navy. {basically a tech worth +- Navy or greater}

To the deep trolls railroad message

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While the Venetian Isles are interested in continuing trade with other nations we do not see how a railway could be built to our nation as we are currently Island based. If you have a solution to this problem present it to us ans we will look it over. Should you be able to do this we still have a few concerns. Basically we rely on our Navy to defend our islands and a land/underground route would negate our Defensive tactics. Please provide more detail in your offer.

To the Consortium [PM]

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In the terms of the presented treaty there was nothing about a non aggression pact of anything similar. This treaty is solely about trade. The treaty only mentions war in 6. and even that says nothing of the sort. The intent of that section is that should one of our nations end up in a war for one reason or another they shall be able to suspend their obligations temporarily. This is to leave our parties with a free hand should we need to take measures on our own during a war. So now that this is clarified will you accept the treaty as it stands? or are there any changes you would make?

[ragingrage]

The Corrupted Morale +++++ +

To the Isle of Dhevan/rozarian empire (individually)

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We are glad that you accepted our proposal. The cannons should add - to both mil and navy; along with another - of both if you put some additional resources into building more cannons. For this technology we would like either - perm econ or tech; or if you choose +- temp econ. Is this acceptable?

[Grimsage Matt]

Deep Trolls
Morale 3

The Venetian Isles

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This looks reasonable. but first it would have to be presented to the council of Jarls. For the most part, we've only been making loose trade agreements, basicaly agreeing to the first two points, and counting on common sense for the rest.

About the railroad

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OOC; To be honest, I did the "To the people the Deep trolls have talked to" as a blanket message becuase I don't know all the geography It also ment to be a main land focused program.

[hydroplatypus]

The Venetian Isles
Morale: +

To the Deep Trolls

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Caterina di Franco seems unsurprised by the Troll's move to take the treaty to the council. Feel free to take the treaty to your leaders for consideration she says as she hands it to the Troll. Although we prefer explicit treaties we are more than willing to have a more vague one should it open trade relations with you. That being said we must insist on some form of penalty for canceling the treaty without mutual agreement. The amount and form may be changed, however its existance is non-negotiable. Although we are sure you would not do so the possibility of someone pulling out of a vital contract without allowing the other party some compensation to readjust the economy is not something we will allow. It is merely a standard thing for our economic contracts, and is not intended as a slight against you.

[Grimsage Matt]

The Deep Trolls
Morale 3

To The Venetian Isles

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I understand, it is just that we do not like making hasty promises, unlike the Molghuhk.