[IC] TW:epic fantasy

[oblivion6]

isle of dhevan to the reforged kingdom

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you recieve no response from whoever controls the isle now that the king has fled into hiding

trade federation to the reforged kingdom

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[anyone of the various members could reply to this]

you hear from 3 different members on this matter. it appears its just a staging ground...whether its for war or just diplomatic negotiations depends on the harmonians

[Nemesis67]

Jack Collective
Morale: +++++ +++-

To the Risen Empire (+++++ +++-?)

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The operation has been completed. Now we must discuss payment. It took us [+++++ Esp and + Navy] to conduct, and we feel an appropriate price would be [++ temp Magic, Economy, Research, or Espionage] for each we spent. A total of [12]. Alternately, we will accept the Staff of the Magi and [6]. And to clarify. This deal only buys the information, not our silence nor our non-action on the Harmonium's continent.

We are, however, willing to discuss price if you feel ours is unreasonable.
-Jack 35

To the Reforged Kingdom (+++++ +++-)

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OOC: Has your morale changed since last turn?

The apparent revolution is worrying to the Collective. We'll look into it at the most immediate opportunity. Do you know if the Isle of Dhevan is still in an alliance with the Risen and Venetians, especially after their recent intelligence fiasco concerning the Queendom?

-Jack 35

To the Reforged Kingdom / Trade Federation (Probably both myself and the GM for these communications. It's a democratically run alliance, so all members have an equal vote. Morale ++++)

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To clarify, the Federation's intention in building such a colony is not to spearhead an invasion. The purpose of it is to serve as an advanced warning post in case the Harmonium decide to retake their colonial holdings here on our lands. If they do launch such an attack, with this base we have the capability of both intercepting it, as well as the ability to launch a counter attack if the Federation deems it an appropriate response. If the Harmonium have peaceful intentions, however, the port will serve as a refuel point in trade routes.

We took the initiative to build the colony because we, or at the least the Collective, feared the armored men may have been agents of the Empire. While it would appear that this is not correct, we still feel the colony is a necessary precaution against a power that this continent has fought in the past. If threat of invasion appears imminent, we will accept the aid of anyone willing to help against the Harmonium, especially those we have fought beside before. If the threat never materializes, we will use the base for peaceful purposes. This alliance is intended to promote trade as well as protect its members after all.

To ??? (PM)

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So you require military aid against a revolution? Tell us more. The Collective may be able to help. I is there any chance the power that caused yours has a hand in the Isle of Dhevan's supposed uprising? If so, what can you tell us about their plans and their course of action in leading a rebellion?

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The Risen Empire
Morale: +++++ +++

To: The Venetian Isles [+++?]

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It would appear that the seas between ourselves and the Harmonium may soon become a battlefield. If you are willing to continue to provide transport under such conditions, then we would continue as well. If not, however, we understand.

On a hopefully unrelated note, it would seem likely that a foreign power has committed an undeclared act of war against the Isle of Dhevan, which would invoke the second term of the defensive pact existing between the three of us.

We will be sending agents to determine precisely who, if anyone, is responsible. It seems likely that war will follow.

To: The Occupiers of the Isle of Dhevan [Open Message]

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We hereby serve notice that, due to the apparent undeclared act of war against the government of the Isle of Dhevan, clause two of the defensive pact between the Isle of Dhevan, the Venetian Isles, and the Risen Empire has been invoked. The apparent coup against the government of the Isle of Dhevan is hereby recognized by the Risen Empire as an undeclared act of war against all aforementioned signatory states.

May it be now declared that a state of war shall exist between The Risen Empire and the present Occupiers of the Isle of Dhevan unless appropriate reparations for the aforementioned undeclared act of war are made within a time not to exceed three months.

To: The Jack Collective [+++++ +++]

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We would negotiate an alternative form of payment, if you would be so kind as to consider it. As you mentioned that your non-action is for sale within the Harmonium's continent, we have reason to believe that you are interested in acting on said continent.

As such, we are prepared to sell you knowledge of an opportunity to facilitate such actions, and a credit which may be called to access said opportunity.

Would such a thing be of interest to you?

[oblivion6]

???? to the collective[PM]

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people are dying by the hundreds back home. the men who appear to be aiding the rebellion are dressed in heavy black suits of platemail that bear the insignia of a swooping dragon. the very same group appears to be acting in the isle of dhevan. i cant tell you what their goals are

isle of dhevan to the world

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greetings to the rest of the countries on the mainland. i am general agranth, and i am now in complete control of the isle. the pathetic king who used to rule this land has fled into hiding but wont stay hidden for long. it is time to restore this once great empire to its former self so if you attempt to fight against this rightful rebellion then you shall perish

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The Risen Empire
Morale: +++++ +++

To: The Isle of Dhevan

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General Agranth, would it be presumptuous of us to interpret your statement as a declaration of war?

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The Reforged Kingdom

To the Risen Empire and Venetian Isles +++

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Would you as be interested in cooperating to oust the new dictator of the Isle of Dhevan. He seems like a warlike dictator who does nothing but disturb the fragile peace of the continent. We would be willing to lend our prominent army, if you could supply most of the navy (as ours is fairly weak).

To the Trade Federation +++

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Thank you for the information.

To the Jack Collective +++++ +++-

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((It's now +++++ ++++++ +++++ ++. Don't try to attack me with espionage.))
The Risen Empire's message to Dhevan seems to indicate that they are.

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The Risen Empire
Morale: +++++ +++

To: The Reforged Kingdom[+++++ +++]

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Unless this dictator successfully provides reparations for our losses (which we hold to be the entirety of the Isle of Dhevan), we will be at war with the Isle presently. Our analysts predict that this war will end with the annihilation of the Isle's present government within, at most, half a year, barring unforeseen events.

If I may be so bold as to suggest it, might I recommend that you instead bend your focus towards the less obvious enemy, which appears to have supported this dictator? If we do not root out such an enemy, the subversion of nations can only continue.

[ragingrage]

The Reforged Kingdom

To the Risen Empire (+++++ +++)

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May we ask we you feel you should receive reparations? Shouldn't any money given go to locating the disposed King and re-instituting him, or at least to the people of the Island? It doesn't appear that you were directly harmed in the revolution. If this is incorrect, then we apologize.
In regards to finding the backer of the revolution, may we ask for a bit of magical support? Our espionage is fairly weak but with your aid we could definitely catch the culprit.

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The Risen Empire
Morale: +++++ +++

To: The Reforged Kingdom [+++++ +++]

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As per clause two of the non-aggression pact between the former government of the Isle of Dhevan, the Venetian Isles, and ourselves, any undeclared act of war against one faction is considered to have occurred to all factions signatory to the pact. As no formal declaration of war was issued, the coup is being treated as such an act.


Though we would like to provide support with your efforts, we will be committing the entirety of our magical prowess to this war, to ensure a swift conclusion.

We will, however, be deploying agents of our own for the search. Perhaps if our agents were to collaborate with yours?

[ragingrage]

The Reforged Kingdom

To the Risen Empire [+++++ +++]

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Still, I hope you use a portion of the money (if it's given) to aid the desposed king or the people themselves. On other matters, we would love to cooperate with your agents, and will put our +++++ esp to it at mid-turn. May we ask how much you will contribute?

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The Risen Empire
Morale: +++++ +++

To: The Reforged Kingdom [+++++ +++]

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Of course. Still, that is a matter for consideration after the war's conclusion.

We will match your contribution of agents. Unfortunately, the remainder of our operatives are already engaged and can not be withdrawn for some time.

[hydroplatypus]

Venetian Isles

To Dhevan (Open Message)

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You have ousted the king that has been an Ally of the Isles? HOW DARE YOU DO SUCH A THING! Invoking the terms of the defensive treaty made with the Isle of Dhevan we hereby declare war upon the usurpers, with the intent to restore the prior king.

To Reforged Kingdom and Risen Empire [PM]

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We will of course co-operate and help oust this dictator and petty tyrant from his seat. We would appreciate of course if you would include us in your military discussions.

We will no longer be providing transport to the risen Empire as our full Naval might will be required against Dhevan.

We can provide +++++ +++++ + Navy and ++++- Army for this war. How much can you provide? We will of course be willing to transport your Army.

We propose we begin in {1 turn, end of or mid turn next turn[not this one]} when all of our armies/navies have been readied. We will be devoting our full available economy to Army and Naval Production in the meantime.

There is one other issue that needs to be spoken of however. The current King is currently no where to be found, although we would offer asylum if we could. While resuming the prior government is of course the ideal solution we need to face the fact that that may not be possible. Should no heir come forward when we are victorious then we need to decide what to do with the isle. (Also we should contact Jack to see if he knows where the king is).

Anarchy is impossible as we will just repeat the current problem. Similarly an illegitimate ruler will fail. A democracy or republic like we have would fail due to the sudden upheaval and the populace being unfamiliar with the idea. Should no other worthwhile solutions be offered and the king and his line in fact be lost we will offer the people a vote on whether they want to join the Isles. should a majority say yes we will accept them into our nation. This has the added benefit of our large economy being used to rebuild their island from the war's probable devastation. Also the Republic we have would have a sense of legitimacy as we have been a relatively powerful government for a long time. Additionally as another Island nation we would be very familiar with the needs of their nation, and the lack of culture shock would ease the transition. We do not want to appear selfish however, so are there any other solutions to this problem we have overlooked?

Also are there any other nations we should talk to? I would recommend Faluna for their Navy if not for the outstanding problems with the nations. If they were to be unified with us that might work. I will however hold off on contacting them until we have decided if that is a viable option.

OOC: include all members in war talk messages.

To Strange Men

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We would like to know exactly what you are doing in our nation, snooping around. I'm sure there is a good explanation for this.

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The Risen Empire
Morale: +++++ +++

To: War party (Isles, Kingdom) [PM]

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The Imperial Thaumaturge, Alcinus, arrives to conduct the war proceedings, ensuring their privacy with his magic.

To scour the Isle of those which have usurped its government, the Emperor Himself will utilize a magical attack measuring at +++++ +++++ +++++ ++++ units of power. This attack will occur in approximately eleven week's time (end of turn). If the Isle survives, this attack will be repeated with escalating strength.

While the Isle's destruction proceeds, I would strongly recommend that forces be held in reserve to strike at the instigator of the coup at such time as their identity becomes known. In this way, we will not find ourselves under attack with all of our forces committed to a battle on the Isle.

To: Isle of Dhevan[Open Message]

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In response to your coup, clause 2 of the defensive pact between the Isle of Dhevan, the Venetian Isles, and the Risen Empire was invoked, causing the act of war to be considered to have been committed against the Venetian Isles and the Risen Empire as well as against the Isle of Dhevan.

In response to this, the Venetian Isles have declared war, thereby invoking clause 3 of the aforementioned pact. As such, the offer of peace contingent upon the offer of reparations is hereby retracted. Furthermore, a state of war henceforth exists between us. As of now, all diplomatic relations are hereby severed, and you have been declared to be a hostile state. Goodbye.

[oblivion6]

strange men to the venetian isles

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we come seeking potential military aid in combating a foreign sponsered rebellion back home. the same foreigners appear to be at work n the isle of dhevan

[Nemesis67]

Jack Collective:
Morale: +++++ +++-

To the Risen Empire, Venetian Isles, Reforged Kingdom, Strange Men (PM)

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We have been planning on aiding the strangely armored men in their battle ourselves, and if you three were to fight to free the Isle of Dhevan, we could force the puppet masters to split their focus.

To the Trade Federation (++++)

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My friends, a dark day looms for our continent. A foreign power has orchestrated a coup in one of our neighboring nations. Two powers have fallen to their manipulations, the first being the armored men we all encountered a season ago. The Collective has always fought for the freedom of men, and the sovereignty of nations and we will do again this time. We do not expect any aid from this alliance. It is your sole choice to do so, and we will bear no ill will to those who choose not to.

However, we brought this alliance together to preserve the freedom of all those who wish it. Simply because those who are being oppressed are not participants in this alliance matters not to the Collective. We will fight for the sake of the people of the Isle of Dhevan. If such hopeful thoughts do not sway you, we'll point out that this is the second time, that we know of, this power has led such a coup. IF we allow them a foothold on our continent, then nothing is stopping them from targeting each of us in the coming seasons.

[ragingrage]

The Reforged Kingdom

To the Coalition (Risen/Strange/Reforged/Jacks/Venetian)

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If we wish to split their forces, then we may wish for an offensive against Dhevan that is not simple magical bombardment. That will quickly take the nation back, but the puppeteers are then free to focus all their efforts in one place. If instead, summons were used to take a slower but similarly effective route, we would force them to keep their forces there and weaken their other defenses.
In this cause, we are able to pledge our full military +++++ +++++ +++++ +++++, and our navy of +++++ +++++ to the attack, preferably to free the Strange Men's homeland. Lord Fuban himself would accompany this attack

[oblivion6]

trade federation

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[technically speaking the strange men have not yet fallen. but it is a bloodbath over there]

consortium/vale: they are going to pledge economic support to the war effort[7 econ]

the theocracy: they pledge a small token force of warships to the attack on dhevan[2 navy]

rozarian empire: their contributions are 3 whole legions and their entire airfleet[3 army and 7 navy]

the coalition

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the strange men report that they have about [++++]esp nosing around in this part of the world. that will be their contribution.

[hydroplatypus]

Venetian Isles
morale: +++

To Coalition [PM]

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A magical strength of that magnitude will surely do much to the usurpers, but will that cause much collateral damage? We want the island intact and restored, not a smoking crater. However if you think it is wise we will wait until after that to launch an invasion, depending on the effectiveness that the attack demonstrates. Similarly if we can hit at the same time as the attack on the strange men's enemies than we could deprive them of reinforcements. How about an invasion in 24 weeks {EOT turn after this one}? However if the Reforged are to attack the mainland we are unlikely to be capable of retaking the mainland on our own, due to our army size. Does anyone have any idea of Dhevan's military ability? and is anyone willing to provide forces for the island stage of the offensive?

We can provide 11 Navy, and 4.5 Army, and 3 magic to this offensive, plus whatever we can build leading up to the invasion. We would prefer at least 16 Navy and 10 army to attack, although more would be greatly appreciated. In the meantime we will focus on building Navy as Dhevan is one of the major Naval nations, and the usurpers likely captured that.

20 Magic could likely ensure the invasion is a success depending on its use. Summons would be more useful than bombardment as they would cause less collateral. Plus if we win the naval battle we can just bombard them from sea. It is the soldiers we need to worry about.

And should the king or an heir not be found is everyone fine if we offer the people of Dhevan entrance into the Venetian Naval League?

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To Jack (also coalition)

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It is indeed likely that we will retake the Isles, however we have a problem. While retaking it is in fact an achievable goal it leaves us with the question of what to do with it once it is liberated. The current king and his heirs are nowhere to be found, and our espionage network (or lack thereof) is not up to a dedicated search. Would you be able to figure out if the king and/or his heirs are alive, and if so where they are?

[ragingrage]

The Reforged Kingdom

To the Coalition

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Hmmm...with your assistance, Venetian Isles, we may be able to divide the magic of the Risen Empire -- Some to ensure the retaking of Dhevan and the rest to aid in the freeing of the strange men's homeland.
I feel as if asking the people of Dhevan so soon after such tumultuous events may cause them to not make a fully educated decision with regards to their independence. I suggest that for 1-2 turns we help them rebuild their nation, as it will have suffered damage during the war, and then after that they can make a fully unbiased decision.

[hydroplatypus]

Venetian Isles

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Waiting a {few turns} before asking seems like a good idea. No sense in having them make an uninformed decision. And of course should the king arrive in the meantime he shall of course be enthroned again.

Splitting the magic seems good, as it is unlikely that dhevan has too many troops. However we still have the issues of the possible Naval and army deficiency on this end of the invasion. While a buildup of the navy to nessesary proportions is likely possible we will not be able to build up a large enough army in time on our own. If the risen Empire would be willing to commit actual troops and navy to this invasion I would be much more confident. Or if they were willing to give an accurate conversion ratio between navy/army and magic so that I can gauge our actual chances.

Jack, do you plan on sending any soldiers or ships? If so how many? Also how is the intelligence gathering (the king, and the strength of our opposition) going? please inform us of any results.

OOC: to keep track

Dhevan invasion

Venetian Isles
- 11 Navy
-4.5 army
-3 magic

Risen Empire
-20 (maybe 10 if agree to plan) magic
-soldiers and navy??? (yes/no?)



Mainland invasion
Reforged:
-20 army
-10 navy

Risen
-10 magic?? (if agree to split magic)



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Jack
-??espionage
-soldiers/navy??? (yes/no?)
Strange men
- 4 espionage

[Nemesis67]

Jack Collective
Morale: +++++ +++-

To the Federation (++++)

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We thank you for your assistance. This alliance should also make plans to aid the rebuilding of both occupied nations, and look to forming and deepening our trade connections once we have driven off the oppressors.

To the Coalition (PM)

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The Federation has pledged [7] Eco, [9] Navy, and [3] Army to the fight. The Collective itself will deploy at the least [5] Esp to finding the royal family of Dhevan, [5] Navy, and [7] Army for the liberation. Should we also evaluate the strength of either/both revolutionary bodies or can the Strange Men conduct that operation?

As for the timing of this invasion, we feel it must be done at the most immediate opportunity, if possible. The more time the "revolutionaries" have, the more power they can consolidate, and the tighter their hold on the people of the nations. In addition, they may be able to find and execute the royal family if we give them too long.

My Total:
14 Navy
10 Army
7 Eco

To the Risen Empire (+++++ +++)

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We are interested in your information, however we are a bit wary of if it's worth as compared to our report. If you were willing to go in blind you would have done so by now, and we are the only power who has the capability to investigate it. Would the information and [4 non-Navy/Army] resources be a fair exchange? We can settle this deal once we deal with the Isle of Dhevan situation if you would wish.

-Jack 35

[oblivion6]

the coalition[PM]

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strange men:we do not have the intelligence capabilities to evaluate their strengths in both our homeland and dhevan. however we will infiltrate dhevan if we need to

queendom of faluna:during the meeting queen lymslia herself arrived pledging her support to an attack on dhevan and the strange mens home. the queendom had been investigating matters as well

[hydroplatypus]

Venetian Isles

To Coalition

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We welcome the support of the Federation and the Collective. The Dhevan side of the invasion is looking much better. We do need to decide where to allocate the Federation forces however.

We also need to decide when to launch these invasions. It will effect how we prepare. For instance hiring mercenaries will be more beneficial if we attack {EOT this turn} while a military/naval buildup is more beneficial should we attack {EOT next turn}.


Combined Invasion Stats

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Dhevan invasion

Venetian Isles
- 11 Navy
-4.5 army
-3 magic

Risen Empire
-20 (maybe 10 if agree to plan) magic
-soldiers and navy??? (yes/no?)

Jack
-5 Navy
-7 army

Total Dhevan invasion: 16 Navy, 11.5 army, 23 (13?) magic

Mainland invasion
Reforged:
-20 army
-10 navy

Risen
-10 magic?? (if agree to split magic)

Total Mainland: 20 army, 10 Navy, maybe 10 magic

Misc

Federation
-9 Navy
-3 Army
-7 Econ

Faluna
-???

Strange men
- 4 espionage

Total Misc: 9 Navy, 3 Army, 4 ESP, 7 Econ

[oblivion6]

mid turn update

the months continue to tick away as the world draws closer to war with the isle of dhevan. things continue as normal, except all resources are redirected toward the war preperations. but thats nothing new

[hydroplatypus]

Venetian Isles
morale: +++

To Coalition

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OK, so with the new info on Dhevan's military/navy {NPC stat updates} I have a few changes to Recommend. First the Federation Army should help with Dhevan, so as to exceed their army strength. (OOC: also due to Mid turn actions I am now sending 7 army [2.5 increase on prior value]). The navies of the other nations can largely be transferred to the mainland for transport ships, as the small navy left after the coup will not stand before our Navy. Should they want to stay attacking Dhevan the bombardment would certainly be helpful however.

We also need to decide how to allocate the Federation's generous donation (econ) the simplest thing to do would be to hire mercs so that they could help with the mainland invasion (absolutely overwhelming force is always good.)? does anyone have any other options?

With the magic of the risen empire (and our own limited skill) we should have enough of an advantage to win the war quickly.

We should have input on when to attack. I recommend attacking in {EOT this turn} as we do not want a change in the Dhevan situation. the mainland attack we are however unsure of, as we have as yet no reliable information about what will be faced. Should they be ready however we see no reason not to attack now.

also, does anyone else's troop commitments change from Mid turn actions?

Troop Allocation

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Dhevan invasion

Venetian Isles
- 11 Navy
-7 army
-3 magic

Risen Empire
-20 (maybe 10 if agree to plan) magic
-soldiers and navy??? (yes/no?)

Jack
-5 Navy
-7 army

Total Dhevan invasion: 16 Navy, 11.5 army, 23 (13?) magic

Mainland invasion
Reforged:
-20 army
-10 navy

Risen
-10 magic?? (if agree to split magic)

Total Mainland: 20 army, 10 Navy, maybe 10 magic

Misc

Federation
-9 Navy (recommend to mainland)
-3 Army (recommend to Dhevan)
-7 Econ (mercs for mainland??)

Faluna
-???

Strange men
- 4 espionage

Total Misc: 9 Navy, 3 Army, 4 ESP, 7 Econ

To Faluna

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It has come to our intention that you have expressed interest in the liberation of Dhevan. Do you wish to help liberate them? If so what forces can you provide (Mil, Navy, Magic, econ for Mercs etc.)? If not, may we inquire as to your response to this Dhevan situation?

[oblivion6]

the coalition[PM]

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the queendom of faluna is providing the following

[+++++] econ for mercs to attack dhevan
[+++] army to attack mainland
[+++++ +++] navy to attack mainland

the strange men also report they have the following forces back home

[11] army
[3] navy

(may seem like alot, but the rebels have quite a bit opposing you)

[ragingrage]

The Reforged Kingdom

To the Coalition (PM)

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Do the Strange Men have any information on the strength of the rebels, in magic/military/navy? That would be quite useful to know.

[oblivion6]

the coalition[PM]

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in their homeland last reports indicate that the rebellion was comprised of the following

[27] army and [6] navy
[5] magic and lots of espionage

keep in mind that is between the actual rebel mobs and the foreign sponsers, not just one of them so its not as bad as it sounds

[hydroplatypus]

Venetian Isles

To Coalition

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Well, with the strange men's forces it looks like the mainland invasion will likely succeed, however that still leaves the puppet master that caused these revolutions. After the war we need to devote resources to finding out who actually caused this. The Isles don't have much of an espionage network, and we'll likely be rebuilding Dhevan, so we won't be too much help. Although if we could find any competent freelance spies we might be able to hire a few.

Troops

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Dhevan invasion

Venetian Isles
- 11 Navy
-7 army
-3 magic

Risen Empire
-20 (maybe 10 if agree to plan) magic
-soldiers and navy??? (yes/no?)

Jack
-5 Navy
-7 army

Faluna
- 5 econ (for mercs)

Total Dhevan invasion: 16 Navy, 11.5 army, 23 (13?) magic, 5 econ

Mainland invasion
Reforged:
-20 army
-10 navy

Risen
-10 magic?? (if agree to split magic)

Faluna
-3 Army
-8 Navy

Strange Men
-11 Army
-3 Navy

Total Mainland: 34 army, 21 Navy, maybe 10 magic

Misc

Federation
-9 Navy (recommend to mainland)
-3 Army (recommend to Dhevan)
-7 Econ (mercs for mainland??)

Strange men
- 4 espionage

Total Misc: 9 Navy, 3 Army, 4 ESP, 7 Econ

[Nemesis67]

Jack Collective
Morale: +++++ +++-

To the Coalition (PM):

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The Collective will divert our spy networks this season to the mainland conflict, so as to counter their own sizable agencies. As well as searching for the King of Dhevan. Since we're unsure as to the intelligence capabilities of those on the Isle, the Collective feels that the Strange Men's spies should be sent there to aid in counter-intelligence operations. Once the false revolts are put down, we can look into finding the puppet masters. Is eliminating them a goal of this Coalition?