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Re: My Little Pony XLIIV: Season II Ruined My Fanon!
okay so I've been lead to believe that people are drawing scenes from the pony threads so i'd like to make a request could someone draw some part of this post. Or you could just draw my avatar with sunglasses laying in a beach chair under an umbrella that looks like his cutiemark on with Luna and Celestia laying in their beach chairs under their umbrellas that have their cutiemarks on the top.
In the arena of logic I fight UNARMED!!!
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2012-04-29, 01:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XLIIV: Season II Ruined My Fanon!
Has anyone else noticed that Twilight's family appears to be quite influential? They are extremely wealthy, their son became the captain of the guard/married a princess, they not only got their daughter into the examination for magical school but she became the son-queens favorite student.
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Re: My Little Pony XLIIV: Season II Ruined My Fanon!
I absolutely must disagree with that. Celestia absolutely can have a "serious emotional connection" to something other than one pony, to the point that she may gladly devote her entire life and all her time and attention to her subjects, to the point that she may even willingly sacrifice herself for her subjects (because we love tired old clichés).
Granted, whether she does have such a sense of love for her subjects is mere speculation, which brings me to your other points...
It's ALL speculation. I don't know what you think we're discussing, but I'm discussing speculative ideas based loosely on the show and nothing more. All I want to do is present this idea I have and show that it is at least not impossible given what we know. And since we know very little for a fact we can come up with a lot of theories like this that are not ruled out by canon yet.
It's like science. You come up with an hypothesis, and there may be other hypotheses to explain the same thing, and as long as your hypothesis is not ruled out by current data it is (ideally) as good as any other such hypothesis. Then you go on and collect more data, and if it fits your hypothesis that's great, if it doesn't then you either adapt your hypothesis or throw it out.
Here, I have my hypothesis about Celestia and the power of Love. It's based on a lot of assumptions, but I am arguing that it is not outright impossible given our current state of knowledge about the world. In the future it's possible that more data will become available, or someone will notice a new detail from the old episodes that I'd missed, and I'll either have to adapt my hypothesis to that or if all else fails throw it out. And sure, I'll throw it out if it comes to that, but I'll try to defend or adapt it first.
In short, Celestia doesn't HAVE to be able to tap into the power of Love, I never said that, but I like the idea and I think it can work and that it'd be interesting that way. Maybe other ideas can work too, maybe the show will one day address it in their own way, but until then we can decide whatever we like.Last edited by Deadly; 2012-04-29 at 04:13 AM.
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2012-04-29, 04:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Fine, fine.
Crikey.
We are either going to have to stop developing interest in the same characters or move to the same continent/area.
But virtue needn't be defined by sacrifice.
If kindness is a virtue, and kindness is freely given with no cost to the giver, does it cease being virtuous?
A pony can dream~
Refutable.
Discord is a spirit of disharmony. It is the nature of such a creature to play games where it can lose. Discord doesn't have power at all outside such games. He is a narrative structure manifest. He's not all powerful, he's just cunning.
Yep. I am,after all, a wizard. One of the first things a successful wizard learns is how to perceive in ways that mortal minds should never suffer.
One of the second things a successful wizard learns is how to cope with being unable to undo such a terrible mistake.
Surviving beyond "reality" is somewhere around 75th on list of successful wizard skills.
I thought she was going to be some fey witch who banished twilight to the dark realm from which the clones spawned, some beyond-the-mirror terrorland.
Darn, now I have to go back and address these manually. Well played...
Want to apologize though. I've had a tough two months, like, drop everything, set it all ablaze and star a new life on a different continent. I've been short with folks and tweren't proper. I'm sorry.
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When have weddings ever made sense?
Given ponythread speed it's fair to say that sometimes, folks don't always respond in the rush. It's not personal though.
Right here you ninny!
Bet you thought we were just being nice because we were your friends huh? Ha! If thanqol and I have taught you anything, it should be that "Friendship is never having to pull your punches."
In the phrase "rape and plunder", i don't think that word means what you think it means.
Best to keep you out of the IRC then...
Believe us; we know, and we enjoy getting him going. There is a soothing cadence to his violent diatribe, like waves of a deep red sea slamming chopping over you while you lie have submerged.
Besides, I've out-talked him before. It's not like I can't then spare the time to listen for a spell!
Hmmm.
The problem here is you are implying Blair's are not, typically, pushovers. They totally are.
That said, he's had vanguard training. I ain'tnt messing with him.
Alignment is fun, and a relic from when AD&D had an implied default setting and if you changed it at all you were no longer playing AD&D, and if you had to ask about said setting you weren't smart enough to appreciate if and should just go play regular D&D, and leave the tournament level gaming to the big boys.
WITCHCRAFT!
Ooh... I don't feel well. What... what has happened to me? Chrysalis... what did you do to me!?
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Aha.
*purs concealer over Lix's cutie mark*
... Cutie Mark Crusaders Queen Chrysalis Concubines?
You're kidding. You are kidding, right?
That kid, who exists only because kids dying is edgy?
Who's sole reason god being included is so magic sparkle mcguffin can seem legitimate despite being as reasonable or understandable as Charger discovering tear love?
The one Whois either an obvious hallucination or the first clue that the designers threw In a load of bunk and couldn't be arsed to add sound effects or, you know, verisimilitude of any stripe?
The kid who has no narrative or causal impact anywhere, but still haunts my poorly forced "nightmares" because kids are supposed to be all like, innocent, so let's off one for shock value?
You actually fell for that?
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I've got a genie lamp. Wanna buy it? Only seven bits~
I VOTE FOR THIS FOR NEXT THREAD.
I DID! But I decided to quote post. I forgotDBC was back on the case, but I'll get you next time, in-joke! NNNNEEEEEeeeeexxxxttt ttttiiiiiiiiimmmmeee......
Fabulous. New screen saver?
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Maybe.
Sure!
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Turns out the ponythread elements were actually the villains! The mod team had to go on a sacred quest to restore reality. Rawhide has my voice locked up as hostage should we ever do it again.
Son, please. Sit on down, let ol' Starry school you.
You know who is stronger and better than the average human?
The average Krogan.
You know who is better than the average Krogan?
A Krogan battlemaster.
You know what separates battlemasters from the chaff?
Training as a vanguard.
You know what that training enables a Krogan to do?
Create explosions and/or destroy buildings with their face.
You know who destroys buildings and creates explosions with her face?
Rainbow. Mirriam. Dash.
You've got commander Shepard? Please.
I've got a military race of living reusable nuclear superheroes.
Totally took the words from my mouth, mate.
In the beginning, and even up to today, we got a lot of folks who never gave the show a chance, and decided they didn't like it purely out of hype backlash; that it was cool to dislike cool things.
So when you say "eh, it's no [manly stereotype]" what they hear is "I'm insecure and instead of dealing with that I'll say the thing you like is stupid". Which is dumb; pretty much all knee-jerk reactions are dumb. It's rather ironic really.
In the end though, it's entirely possible it's not your cup of tea. That's cool. I don't even like tea myself! I'm a coffee kinda unicorn. So We're in the same boat, you see, of not liking tea. And this boat we are in is heading for ADVENTURE!
Pfff lions leave all the waste, it's why scavengers love them.
Feeding on emotions like the Windigos is one thing. *Though they're extremely dangerous, they're still largely just animals doing what they do. *The changelings have the inherently unpleasant (I'll avoid calling it 'evil' to avoid any more animal comparisons ) trait of feeding on love. *They've evolved to be quite effective at stealing love from others to feed on. *On top of that, they're more intelligent than animals and bring those oh-so-wonderful traits like gluttony and a thirst for power with this ability. *They're smart, they could probably find a way to feed without hurting anypony. *They could just change into some unique pony and live peacefully among the ponies. *Do they? *No. *They go and invade the capital so they can just take whatever love they want. *(I have no idea how they would do this, or how Chrysalis expected to get love after revealing herself to the world. *Unless she was planning on completely replacing all of Canterlot and using it as a base of operations to infiltrate and feed off the other cities.)
Second... How do we know the changelings are predatory? They may have existed for eons integrating slowly into pony society as the lore attached to the name suggests, doing no harm but still being persecuted if they were ever found out.
Or they may be like actual changelings, pug in place of stolen babies and not gaining control IC their power until puberty, when they are suddenly cast out their once-family for always having been a changeling.
Perhaps this is even necessary, and the changelings must capture baby ponies and use their cocoons to reproduce? They're sentient, so they aren't a parasite, unless you count vampires as parasites1. They are a sentient race. Should they die out because they're nature clashes with your delicate sensibilities of what is and is not okay behavior for sophonts?
Further, their queen MUST see after her people, that's the point of being ruler. And her people couldn't have been*doing well, as she said she brought them - all of them - to canter lot where food was plentiful rather than scarce. Her entire people.
Her species brought down to just one hive, barely surviving because their 'prey' was too unforgiving, too racist to accept such creatures? That, friend, is immoral.
That's one more yes-vote than I expected, so sure!
I came out of basic about a week ago. It was.... an Interesting experience, to be honest. X)
First things, first, I suppose...
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The first day we got there, the first things said to us:
"Get off the damn bus."
Already, things were horrible.
Quickly we were rushed upstairs and had to shower, shave, and brush our teeth all within about the space of two minutes. While we were unpacking, we were all forced to stop due to one pair giggling in the back. We stood around for half an hour while the MTI (Military Training Instructor) waited for him to tell a joke that made him laugh.*
We met our actual MTI sometime after that night. Man, he was an interesting character, let me tell you.
He didn't swear at us. No, no no. He didn't have to. the time we spent pushing on our faces was more than enough.
We learned drill, we learned customs and courtesies, we had to take our hats off as we entered a building and put them on as we left.
We had books to study on a lot of basic military subjects, and pretty much had to study them whenever we got the chance, which wasn't very often.*
The most difficult part, though, was just how detailed and neat we had to keep everything. and I mean EVERYTHING. T-shirts had to bee rolled PERFECTLY. completely flush, flat, and grounded. the top facing the rear of the wall locker. Towels flush and folded just so. NO strings on our uniforms (And trust me, they checked every inch of those things). No dust bunnies on the floors, hospital corners at 90 degrees... and you had to insure you did NOT, and I mean DID NOT, screw up on Entry Controller duty. no one was allowed to enter your dormitory unless they were authorized first.*
Anyways... X)
I was so afraid the whole time of getting recycled (The term used for sending you back in weeks if you weren't up to standard). I broke down about halfway through 2nd week. I was dribbling like a little baby!
WE got to go through a program called BEAST, which was a simulated combat environment. the best of that was sleeping in Tents. during a tornado. =)
There was a tornado that touched down near our campsite while we were in the tents. those winds were howling like crazy. and you know what? I only woke up once. Because I had to pee.
We had to do anything we could to keep ourselves sane. When the MTI wasn't there after we finished details, we would play baseball with a paper ball and a mop handle. I taught everyone silly riddle games like Green Glass Door, and we would constantly joke about our MTI and the silly things he and our Brother flight MTI would say.*
Our favorites were probably "Get outta the way!" and "NO!" it was the way he said it, more than what he said.
We also had another phrase we had borrowed from a different MTI:
"I'm a Honey Badger. I do what I want".
all in all, our flight did average. we weren't the best, but we were fairly decent at everything, Our marching, our PT, our tests.*
Boy, the MTI's could be scary, especially when you did something wrong. and you could not LAUGH at all if they did or said something funny. you would be drilled for that. Hard. They had so much fun testing us on our knowledge of your studies right after dinner.*
some of the funnier things they did and/or said:
I heard one sing the Mario theme song AT somebody. It was weird as anything.
And another hum circus clown music whenever a Trainee did something wrong.
I ended up failing on of my final locker inspections and nearly lost what little time I would have been able to spend on the town... but, luckily, I was able to work things out so I could. and San Antonio was AMAZING. I'm glad I was able to go and explore it. =)
I met a few people I might consider friends... but i barely see any of the ones that made it to the same tech school as me.*
Speaking of which, I am currently sitting here writing in Mississippi. and it's the weekend. AWWWW Yeah!
Pet peeve: the Kama sutra isn't a book on sex.
SpoilerIt's a book on how to be a playboy. It only contains six actual "positions", no illustrations, and seems chock-full of misogyny. Like the chapter on how to beat your wife in a socially acceptable manner (but don't worry; she likes it!) or how to proposition your barber.
Times were simpler then. Food more plentiful.
Finding a lifemate was murder though.
It's good to see you mate! How ya been? Have an unrelated human nightmare moon!
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On Deadly's Debate:
I must agree. The heart has no limits. Love is not defined by being solely between two people. Celestia could very well care for her subjects collectively enough that the changelings could all just naturalize and bask.Last edited by SiuiS; 2012-04-29 at 04:30 AM.
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Okay, here's the list of episodes I made, putting them in what I believe to be chronological order:
Spoiler01: Friendship is Magic, Parts 1 & 2 (midsummer, year 1)
02: The Ticket Master (late summer, year 1)
03: Applebuck Season (late summer, year 1)
04: Griffon the Brush-Off (late summer, year 1)
05: Boast Busters (late summer, year 1)
06: Swarm of the Century (late summer, year 1)
07: Dragonshy (late summer/early fall, year 1)
08: Look Before You Sleep (early fall, year 1)
09: Bridle Gossip (early fall, year 1)
10: Fall Weather Friends (late fall, year 1)
11: Winter Wrap Up (late winter/early spring, year 2)
12: Call of the Cutie (early spring, year 2)
13: Suited For Success (spring, year 2)
14: Feeling Pinkie Keen (spring, year 2)
15: Stare Master (late spring, year 2)
16: The Show Stoppers (late spring, year 2)
17: A Bird in the Hoof (late spring, year 2)
18: The Cutie Mark Chronicles (late spring/early summer, year 2)
19: A Dog and Pony Show (early summer, year 2)
20: Green Isn't Your Color (early summer, year 2)
21: Sonic Rainboom (early summer, year 2)
22: Over a Barrel (summer, year 2)
23: Owl's Well That Ends Well (summer, year 2)
24: Party of One (summer, year 2)
25: The Best Night Ever (summer, year 2)
26: The Return of Harmony, Parts 1 & 2 (summer, year 2)
27: Lesson Zero (summer, year 2)
28: Secret of My Excess (summer, year 2)
29: Luna Eclipsed (midsummer, year 2)
30: Sisterhooves Social (late summer, year 2)
31: The Cutie Pox (late summer, year 2)
32: Hearth's Warming Eve (early winter, year 2)
33: May the Best Pet Win! (early spring, year 3)
34: The Mysterious Mare Do Well (early spring, year 3)
35: Sweet and Elite (spring, year 3)
36: Hearts and Hooves Day (spring, year 3)
37: [i]Family Appreciation Day (late spring, year 3)
38: Baby Cakes (late spring, year 3)
39: The Last Roundup (early summer, year 3)
40: Read It and Weep (summer, year 3)
41: It's About Time (summer, year 3)
42: Dragon Quest (late summer, year 3)
43: A Friend in Deed (late summer, year 3)
44: Hurricane Fluttershy (late summer, year 3)
45: Ponyville Confidential (late summer, year 3)
46: MMMystery on the Friendship Express (late summer/early fall, year 3)
47: The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000 (early fall, year 3)
48: Putting Your Hoof Down (early fall, year 3)
49: A Canterlot Wedding, Parts 1 & 2 (fall, year 3)
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Hmmm *clears throat*
Testing, Testing, One Two Three. Do I sound like her yet?
Good, I think this might have been mentioned before, but I'm afraid our sister has a slight problem with her maneLast edited by BlasTech; 2012-04-29 at 06:39 AM.
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Where is Cadence looking in panel 2?
Yes, but kindness can be given with cost to oneself. Maybe it's a virtue on account of promising sacrifice.
SpoilerSo basically it was Man's Health with less pictures and nutrition tips??
Pretty bleak to be honest. Life is mocking me by giving me the things I wanted 10 years ago, at a time when I realized that those aren't important. Money is pretty useless in making you a better person or helping the people around you in some pivotal cases.
And I still haven't worked on my attitude.
Also: I counter your unrelated human nightmare moon..
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...and raise by several unrelated human Luna. (Unrelated Human Luna edition image dump)
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And some unrelated human Luna and Celestia images.
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*Ponders catching up on... the entirety of Season 2*
*Apathys harder at poni for being distracting*
The apathy tanks can't handle much more, cap'n!
Eh, whatever.
Stop that! Yer wastin' precious ap'thy!
Meh.
This is what happens to my mind when not getting sleep. And this is about as sane as I get.
Be afraid.
Be very afraid.
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We all know the Wonderbolts are the greatest pegasus team in all Equestria.
What are the Unicorn and Earth Pony equivilants?
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The kid has a narrative impact through the game, and in the case the indoctrination theory proves true even more, unlike in MW3 where a girl explodes cuz of nothing. And what if it's shock value or anything? the developers added it, whatever, it still proved effective.
I don't know much, I guess Krogan are mostly a bunch of Zerg-Rushing huge guys that got Genophage'd when they went mad, but they're huge, and huge is bad you know, Ergo, they eat shots like a wall in front of a stormtrooper.
I don't really know much bout Battlemasters, but they're still huge shotgun-snipable. But when do they explode stuff with their face????
And I haven't only got Shepard, I got Master Chief and Ramirez, and even worse, Gordon Freeman, and he's able to create explosions by simply shooting at stuff .
NOTHING is better than Humanity,Spoilermain reason why the reapers tried to make a human reaper
I kinda had Hype Backlash too to be honest, also that it had a childish theme and they tend to be the inverse of the "Manliness, Badassery and Explosions" that I'm actually used to and makes me like stuff
Also note for me Manliness means "high capability of pwning people", badassery means "extension of directed pwnage" and explosions "capability to use the pwnage for the production of the purest form of awesomeness that can exist on the universe", from that you get that I'm a fighter, not a lover
But still I don't even know, I could just try again cuz I was kinda raging at the moment and didn't see the entire episode . But yeah, I kinda like a part of it.Last edited by Luka; 2012-04-29 at 12:10 PM.
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You forgot this one, even though it's stuffed in between a lot of other things.
So, first post in the new thread, woohoo!
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Tality.
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And now I'm just hearing
"Reapers are the WORST. POSSIBLE. THING!"
In Tali's voice over and over...
HUZZAH!
Unlikely to be a problem...
Originally Posted by SiuiS
*sigh*
Humans are not more "special" than any other sentient species out there, except in their own minds. The more I read things like this, the more convinced I am that the modal distinguishing racial trait of humanity is actually just self-aggrandizement.
Annnnd we have a new rising star in the comedy fanfiction front:
Spike, Pony Investigator, hard-boiled PI-style.
With Derpy as partner.
Awesomely hilarious.
(I always say it's a sign of a good fanfic when I can hear the voices, and I found myself just automatically reading this in Spike's voice. Quality.)Last edited by Aotrs Commander; 2012-04-29 at 08:12 AM.
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I'm talking about Mass Effect,
((whoops, sorry though it was no spoiler ))SpoilerReapers make reaper dreadnoughts of a single species, they picked humanity
In Real Life we don't know the others to exactly know that since we don't know aliens. , But I think we are just awesome and can be moreLast edited by Luka; 2012-04-29 at 12:00 PM.
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May I ask that all ME3 spoilers be kept to the ME thread, or spoilered appropriately? There are some of us (myself included) that still have not played it, and would like to see as little of the plot beforehand as possible.
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Her parents hired a princess as a babysitter. A princess. That's like the Mister Burns tier of stupidly rich.
Just to clarify: If it pertains to ME3 at all, toss it under a spoiler tag. I personally don't intend to play the game until the new Ending DLC comes out.
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Welcome to Mass Effect 3, the game where the ending is made up, and the plot does not matter!
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That Celestia's a
SpahChangling!
I did link the story but it was on page 49 of the last thread where I'm sure no one saw it. It's a fun, silly story.
Uh, probably EUW. Do I need multiple accounts for each server, or can I switch between them somehow?
So, there's an official extended Love is in Bloom music video.
Also, this is neat.
I have about 50 pics ready for an upcoming image dump. I hope you guys are ready (PROTIP: You are not ready).
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