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    Quote Originally Posted by fred dref View Post
    When you get Pool depends on what jungler/lane combo you're facing. Shyvana+Hecarim? Can probably get it fairly late. Lee jungle against a Ryze mid? Might be worth getting a point at level 2, even.

    EDIT: Haunting Guise is fairly good for CDR, damage and even some health.
    *Pen, not CDR. The pen does a LOT of damage though, was just reading up on that. The math is quite good since pen scales super well into lategame as a damage item.

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    Since Abyssal became popular again, I could see some AP carries with builds like Guise, Abyssal, Sorcs with Mpen reds and masteries in lieu of buying a Void Staff. Depends on the game, of course.
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    So, the other day I realized I had a twelve win IP boost, but no idea what for, I didn't buy it. This wasn't for the downtime and patch issues the other week, I already had and used that up. Anyone got any idea what it could be for? Does someone at Riot just really like me or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Math_Mage View Post
    Since Abyssal became popular again, I could see some AP carries with builds like Guise, Abyssal, Sorcs with Mpen reds and masteries in lieu of buying a Void Staff. Depends on the game, of course.
    It doesn't scale as well as Sorcs/Treads + Void Staff + GA/QSS/etc, though. Sorc Shoes + 2x Doran's/Revolver + Abyssal is super strong at the moment, though, especially considering the amount of double AP hanging around.


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    Oh boy, it's Vlad freeweek! I hope to try him out this weekend, so what exactly do I build?

    Boots/Dshield start into Revolver sounds about right, followed by Rylais, Hat, and a finished WotA, in some order? As for skills, starting Transfuse seems to be expected, with a skill order something like QEWQER? Poke with Q, eat creeps with E, open teamfights with R, and dodge ganks while giggling fiendishly with W?

    CDR seems to be very useful, but it's always a bit awkward itemizing for it when you don't use mana. I guess blue pot + boots + masteries should get me enough, yes?
    Start boots+3. No exceptions.
    Building 2x Doran's Shield afterwards is actually a decent strategy against heavy AD lanes. Spirit Visage is an amazing source of CDR and MR against AP lanes or junglers, and it's especially absurd if you run Heal/Ghost rather than Ignite/Ghost

    . I would probably go QWQE simply because getting ganked at level 2 is a nightmare and Vlad generally doesn't have the health retention to utilize E at level 2, especially considering that it does almost no damage and what little damage it does put out just pushes the lane much earlier than Vlad is prepared for.

    By the time you're seriously teamfighting you need an Hourglass. No exceptions. It's more important to finish Hourglass than Rylai's in like 90% of situations. Go Sorc Boots > Revolver > Abyssal against double AP comps and CDR boots against AD-heavy or Bruiser-heavy (stacking flat Pen isn't as effective against enemies with 52.5 base MR, MR/level runes, and strong MR itemization options like Wit's End, Merc Treads, and Hexdrinker. Plan for Void Staff. You'll need it.
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    So, the other day I realized I had a twelve win IP boost, but no idea what for, I didn't buy it. This wasn't for the downtime and patch issues the other week, I already had and used that up. Anyone got any idea what it could be for? Does someone at Riot just really like me or something?
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    I've been playing a little bit of Yorick lately. He's fun! And he's pretty effective in a teamfight, though I have a lot of teammates who apparently have never seen him before. I ult them just before they die, they resurrect, and they apparently mistake his ult for Zilean's because rather than attacking they run away and then demand to know why they died again 10 seconds later. :\

    Anyone got some recommendations for his build? I'm pretty much having Manamune as a core item to his build, but I've been experimenting with both tankier builds and more damaging builds, trying to find a balance. Suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    I've been playing a little bit of Yorick lately. He's fun! And he's pretty effective in a teamfight, though I have a lot of teammates who apparently have never seen him before. I ult them just before they die, they resurrect, and they apparently mistake his ult for Zilean's because rather than attacking they run away and then demand to know why they died again 10 seconds later. :\

    Anyone got some recommendations for his build? I'm pretty much having Manamune as a core item to his build, but I've been experimenting with both tankier builds and more damaging builds, trying to find a balance. Suggestions?
    Manamune is pretty high damage and pretty slow on the uptake. I personally like to go Frozen Heart or Chalice depending on if I'm laning vs. casters or ADs. Then I get some tanky stuff, Trinity and mebbe BT if I really need damage (I usually don't). CDR is obviously king on him.
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    So, the other day I realized I had a twelve win IP boost, but no idea what for, I didn't buy it. This wasn't for the downtime and patch issues the other week, I already had and used that up. Anyone got any idea what it could be for? Does someone at Riot just really like me or something?
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    Found this nicevideo today. Now I kinda want to play Ashe again.

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    I doubt anyone remembers when I said I'd make Cho my main (it never happened), but now I remember why.

    Oh, and his AP ratios are amazing.

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    I simply must ask, why the RoA? Doran's Rings would give better lane sustain (for mana, at least. Cho rarely has health problems) and it's not like Cho lacks HP. I think an Abyssal would have been more useful there, or even a Rylai's if you want your Vorpal Spikes to be CC as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    I've been playing a little bit of Yorick lately. He's fun! And he's pretty effective in a teamfight, though I have a lot of teammates who apparently have never seen him before. I ult them just before they die, they resurrect, and they apparently mistake his ult for Zilean's because rather than attacking they run away and then demand to know why they died again 10 seconds later. :\

    Anyone got some recommendations for his build? I'm pretty much having Manamune as a core item to his build, but I've been experimenting with both tankier builds and more damaging builds, trying to find a balance. Suggestions?
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    One interesting thing about Yorick: He allows incredibly early Barons. Get your AD carry up there with you and the jungler and ult the carry. Between Yorick's natural tankyness and the double AD carry damage (and possibly the ghost to tank, if needed) Baron goes down fast and easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred dref View Post
    I simply must ask, why the RoA? Doran's Rings would give better lane sustain (for mana, at least. Cho rarely has health problems) and it's not like Cho lacks HP. I think an Abyssal would have been more useful there, or even a Rylai's if you want your Vorpal Spikes to be CC as well.
    You mean Philo Stone and HoG, of course. Then Wit's, Frozen, Abyssal, GA, Randuin's. Or dump something for the Reverie if you want two on the team. Or get an Aegis.
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    I seem to recall discussions vis a vis AP Cho vs. Tanky disruptor Cho a couple threads back and didn't want to rehash them, especially as I believe PersonMan was the one most taken by AP Cho.

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    Well, then go Abyssal, Deathcap, Lich Bane, GA, or something like that.

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    Nidalee.

    AP, AD, hybrid?

    Also, how do I play her?
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    Nidalee.

    AP, AD, hybrid?

    Also, how do I play her?
    AP & Bruiser AD (Atmog's, Mallet, Trinity, the like) are both viable and played builds. AP is harder to make work but those Spears can win games alone. Play...AP, stay far away out of sight, lob spears at expected movement trajectories, maximizing the range before hit, win game. Heal as necessary, use Cougar for kiting, escaping and cleaning up (the damage is immense but AP you're still quite squishy).

    AD, you mostly jump in as cougar, hit people, heal, autoattack in human-form, turn back, etc. Cougar mostly for approaches and damage and tankiness here. Don't forget to lob your spears anyways; they still hurt a ton without AP.
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    Nidalee.

    AP, AD, hybrid?

    Also, how do I play her?
    AP - Yes.
    AD - Yes.
    Hybrid - Yes.


    Experiment a bit, and see which one you prefer. I've played her all different ways, and she's always fun.

    How to play her also depends a bit on the lane you're in, and what role you're taking on.
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    Nidalee.

    AP, AD, hybrid?

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    However you want, really.

    AD is better in lane and in fights. Triforce Lanternmogma's or something like that.

    AP is better for poke. Deathcap Void Staff core with possible early RoA--support Nidalee skips the RoA, but buys a gp10 or two.

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    Nidalee.

    AP, AD, hybrid?

    Also, how do I play her?
    AP Nidalee is understandably attractive, since all of her abilities scale off of AP with the exception of her Cougar form Q.

    But the thing is, the only ability that really scales meaningfully with AP is the Q-spear. If you're really really good with it long range, it gets over 1.5 ratio off ability power, which is obviously amazing.

    She's got a good escape, an attack speed steroid/heal, she's in the top 10 for best attack speed at 18, and is number 13 for best attack speed at level 1, and while her base attack damage isn't phenomenal, she scales decently, more or less competitive with most other tops.

    So basically, pure AP Nidalee has potential, but if you can't land the spear (or are facing opponents that dodge the spear reliably), she's got seriously good bruiser powers you should consider for top. Additionally, her snare-traps, heal, and excellent spear harass make her a potential support, but only if she plays a true support (and doesn't just build AP, screw up her Carry's farm, and fails to buy wards).

    I've seen her played mid, top, and support.
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    Play whichever Nidalee build is relevant to each individual game. You can use a single set of Runes/Masteries for both builds. Pick up both penetration masteries and go 21/0/9. AD reds, armor yellows, MR/level or AP/level blues, MS or AD or AP quints. Everything works, since early AD makes harassing and last hitting easier while AP marginally improves your sustain.

    Have a free farm lane? You can probably go AP unless your team really needs a bruiser. The main disincentive for AP Nidalee is that laning is much harder. Bruiser Nidalee works in like every other situation, though.
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    Bruiser Nidalee is also the most annoying thing in the game.

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    Bruiser Nidalee is also the most annoying thing in the game.
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    I dunno about that. Nidalee is tankier, scarier, better at split pushing, better at escaping, better at teamfighting, and capable of ruining days with a just a couple of spear shots. They even have similar laning styles; camp top brush and harass every time someone tries to last hit.

    Nidalee even has in-built sustain. Yorick, too. Yorick isn't even cute. How can Teemo be more annoying than Yorick if Teemo is cute? Teemo also doesn't do that "ult self so I can attack your tower and zone you simultaneously" thing that Yorick does.

    That whole Teemo thing is a common misconception. If he's Tier 1 on the ****ing Annoying Champions tier list, so to speak, Nidalee, Yorick, and AP Kog'Maw are probably God Tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aethernox View Post
    I dunno about that. Nidalee is tankier, scarier, better at split pushing, better at escaping, better at teamfighting, and capable of ruining days with a just a couple of spear shots. They even have similar laning styles; camp top brush and harass every time someone tries to last hit.

    Nidalee even has in-built sustain. Yorick, too. Yorick isn't even cute. How can Teemo be more annoying than Yorick if Teemo is cute? Teemo also doesn't do that "ult self so I can attack your tower and zone you simultaneously" thing that Yorick does.

    That whole Teemo thing is a common misconception. If he's Tier 1 on the ****ing Annoying Champions tier list, so to speak, Nidalee, Yorick, and AP Kog'Maw are probably God Tier.
    Teemo isn't the best champion, or the most dangerous, or the best at split pushing, or the best at anything really.

    But dammit he is annoying. There is nothing more annoying than stepping on a mushroom or two, or three, in a row, or the little noises he makes when he escapes. And that irritating happiness in his voice. God I hate Teemo.

    Also, I've honestly never found Yorick that annoying. AP Kog and Nid, definitely on the annoying list, but not Yorick. Hell Karthus is more annoying than Yorick.

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    Never played against an AP Kog, but agreed otherwise.
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    Xin Zhao is most annoying. Also AP Nid because /dem/ /spears/
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    Xin doesn't bug me much, really. Akali, on the other hand...
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