Speculation on what would OOTS be adapted into other stories.

[t209]

We've seen OOTS made into other stories (like Hamlet, and Haleo and Julelan. Not that we wanted another story but what would OOTS be like if it was in other stories and alternate media.
1. 1980s cartoon (like Dungeons and Dragons or its parody (along with other 80s parody).
2. Videogames (We already got ASCII).

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a. Bioware games (for conversation and Never Winter Nights).
b. JRPG games
c. WRPG games (like Diablo and other team based WRPGs)
3. Game of Thrones. Here's my idea..

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Ned Stark- Thanh
Tyrion Lannister- Leeky Windstaff (Belkar's way too dumb and V's way too tall)
Daenerys Targaryen- Kazumi Kato
Khal Drogo- Daigo
Cersei Lannister- Sabine
Jaime Lannister- Nale
Joffrey Baratheon- Vaarsuvius
Robert Baratheon- Hinjo
Victarion Greyjoy- Thog
Arya Stark- Niuh
Jon Snow- Elan
Tywin Lannister- Tarquin

4. Other Shakespeare stories

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1. Othello- Roy Greenhilt or Elan
Desdemona- Celia or Haley
Roderigo- Unseen Celia mom or Ian Starshine
Iago- Redcloak or Nale
Cassio- Durkon or Vaarsuvius
Note: I put Elan for Othello since OOTS fans would be shocked if they see Roy smothering Celia to death.
2. Midsummer Dreams.
3. King Lear
King Lear- Shojo
3 Daughters- Lien, Miko and Sangwaan.

[Winter]

Ned Stark- Thanh

Honorable until dumb. Yes, this totally fits.

Tyrion Lannister- Leeky Windstaff

Just no. Tyrion is the smartest and most able of all characters in that book (in regard to mind). Did you read the books? What you saw in Season 1 of the TV Show is not what Tyrion is about.
There's no character like him in the OotS (very smart, very wise, bodily and magically totally unable + alignment:

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Obviously Good.

Daenerys Targaryen- Kazumi Kato

No again, she's grown up, a very strong, finished character. Daenerys is nothing of that. Also she has enough power to be seen as the single person in the world to have nuclear bombs at her disposal.

Khal Drogo- Daigo

No, Belkar. He's only about horses, food, war, and sex. Subtract the horses and you have Belkar.

Cersei Lannister- Sabine

Acceptable, we just have to state Cersei is significantly dumber than Sabine.

Jaime Lannister- Nale

Wuh? Not smart, straight out expert-warrior? No way.

Joffrey Baratheon- Vaarsuvius

I think this is acceptable. Both are very immature. Joeffry just is "Hellish Evil". I think a good comparision would be Joeffrey and Darth Vaarsuvius.

Robert Baratheon- Hinjo

No. Robert is only about hammering living things, drinking, hunting, and screwing (that's why he was so successful at "becoming" king and so horrible at "being" king). That's not really fitting for a paladin-paragon. No, really.

Victarion Greyjoy- Thog

I think I'd put Nale here.

Arya Stark- Niuh

More Haley (with a higher degree of "let's just kill it"). Arya is probably one of the most broken characters (even one of the most awesome) of the entire Song (if Ice and Fire).

Jon Snow- Elan

I think Roy would be a good Jon Snow. Elan is too little fighter, too dumb, too little focussed.

Tywin Lannister- Tarquin

Hell yes! This is spot on.

[t209]

I just chose House Kato as Drogo and Daenary for their relationship.
I wanted to make Durkon as Tyrion Lannister but I casted most of the Lannister as Team Evil and Belkar's (TOken evil halfling) too evil and dumb.
So can Hinjo be Jon Snow or Jorah Mormont?
Night's Watch- Team Peregrine
Bran Stark- Elan

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TO fit in with Jaime and Cersei's sex (also the reason to put Nale and Sabine there).

[Armitage]

[Tyrion Lannister]
There's no character like him in the OotS (very smart, very wise, bodily and magically totally unable + alignment:

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Obviously Good.

No, as much as I (and many other readers) like him, he's not that.

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I'd say chaotic neutral, with good tendencies
(not sure why we put spoiler warnings around this, but whatever)

[t209]

No, as much as I (and many other readers) like him, he's not that.

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I'd say chaotic neutral, with good tendencies
(not sure why we put spoiler warnings around this, but whatever)

There are people who didn't watch Game of Thrones and the rules say so.
For mine, it was too long.

[Armitage]

Well, the TV show is just an adaption (with mostly minor alterations) of a book series, and the books have been out for years.
Is there some form of expiration date on spoilers?

[Gift Jeraff]

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Roy = Luke
Elan = Han
Haley = Leia
Belkar = Yoda
Vaarsuvius = R2-D2
Durkon = Obi-Wan
Mr. Scruffy = Chewbacca
Blackwing = C-3PO
Xykon = the Emperor
Redcloak = Vader
Demon-roaches = Imperial officers
Tsukiko = Tarkin
Hobgoblins = Stormtroopers
Nale = Jabba
Thog = Jabba's rancor
Sabine or Miko = that bounty hunter guy
Zz'dtri = Bib Fortuna
Linear Guild kobolds = Salacious B. Crumb
Hinjo = Akbar
O-Chul = Lando
Lien = Nien Nunb
The Resistance = X-wing pilots
Niu = Wedge
Eugene = Owen
Dwarves = Ewoks (when the OOTS gets to Kraagor's Gate, we all know that short fuzzy guys will comically defeat a troop of Team Evil's most powerful undead)
Banjo = the Force
The Snarl = the Death Star

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Roy = Picard
Elan = Troi
Haley = Riker
Belkar = Worf
Vaarsuvius = Data
Durkon = Crusher
Mr. Scruffy = Spot
Blackwing = La Forge
Thor = the Enterprise
Nale = Lore
Tarquin = Q
Tsukiko = the Borg Queen
Tsukiko's wights = the Borg

[t209]

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Roy = Luke
Elan = Han
Haley = Leia
Belkar = Yoda
Vaarsuvius = R2-D2
Durkon = Obi-Wan
Mr. Scruffy = Chewbacca
Blackwing = C-3PO
Xykon = the Emperor
Redcloak = Vader
Demon-roaches = Imperial officers
Tsukiko = Tarkin
Hobgoblins = Stormtroopers
Nale = Jabba
Thog = Jabba's rancor
Sabine or Miko = that bounty hunter guy
Zz'dtri = Bib Fortuna
Linear Guild kobolds = Salacious B. Crumb
Hinjo = Akbar
O-Chul = Lando
Lien = Nien Nunb
The Resistance = X-wing pilots
Niu = Wedge
Eugene = Owen
Dwarves = Ewoks (when the OOTS gets to Kraagor's Gate, we all know that short fuzzy guys will comically defeat a troop of Team Evil's most powerful undead)
Banjo = the Force
The Snarl = the Death Star

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Roy = Picard
Elan = Troi
Haley = Riker
Belkar = Worf
Vaarsuvius = Data
Durkon = Crusher
Mr. Scruffy = Spot
Blackwing = La Forge
Thor = the Enterprise
Tarquin = Q
Tsukiko = the Borg Queen
Tsukiko's wight = the Borg

Pretty good. Can we move on to Othello and King Lear

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1. Othello- Roy Greenhilt or Elan
Desdemona- Celia or Haley
Roderigo- Unseen Celia mom or Ian Starshine
Iago- Redcloak or Nale
Cassio- Durkon or Vaarsuvius
Note: I put Elan for Othello since OOTS fans would be shocked if they see Roy smothering Celia to death.
2. King Lear
King Lear- Shojo
Three Daughters- Lien, Miko and Sangwaan.

or Ren

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The old king- Shojo
Three Sons- O-chul, Hinjo and Thanh.

[Winter]

No, as much as I (and many other readers) like him, he's not that.

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I'd say chaotic neutral, with good tendencies
(not sure why we put spoiler warnings around this, but whatever)

Did you read the books or only saw the show? As for Game of Thrones (Book 1; Season 1 of the show) I agree. For the rest? No way in hell he's just CN.

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Together with the Starks and a very few other exceptions in the book he's one of the few "good" characters. Check out his motivations for being Hand of the King and other things. And yes, there are a few taints, but his "general outlook" on the world if far from evil and generally far from neutral (especially check the times when he does have power can decide where things go).

[Jaros]

Well, the TV show is just an adaption (with mostly minor alterations) of a book series, and the books have been out for years.
Is there some form of expiration date on spoilers?

There's no arbitrary expiration date, but there are still plenty of people who haveb't read it but may be planning to (I'm planning to start next week, after my last exam). Having said that, I don't know if what's behind those tags are spoiler-worthy, so it depends what you're talking about really. I've heard the series has a high mortality rate, so if it's major deaths 'n' stuff then yeah, keep the tags.

[Dr.Epic]

1. 1980s cartoon (like Dungeons and Dragons or its parody (along with other 80s parody)

Why am I only now finding out about this? That's awesome!!!

[bguy]

Just no. Tyrion is the smartest and most able of all characters in that book (in regard to mind). Did you read the books? What you saw in Season 1 of the TV Show is not what Tyrion is about.
There's no character like him in the OotS (very smart, very wise, bodily and magically totally unable + alignment:.

How about the Oracle for Tyrion. Intelligent, short, too mouthy for his own good.

No again, she's grown up, a very strong, finished character. Daenerys is nothing of that. Also she has enough power to be seen as the single person in the world to have nuclear bombs at her disposal.:

Maybe Celia for Daenerys. Magical powers, young and naive, despised by a good portion of the fandom :)

Acceptable, we just have to state Cersei is significantly dumber than Sabine.

Cersei really isn't that dumb. (And Sabine has never been shown to be that smart.) I think this is a pretty good pick.

I think this is acceptable. Both are very immature. Joeffry just is "Hellish Evil". I think a good comparision would be Joeffrey and Darth Vaarsuvius.

I think Nale fits better here. Or Samantha. Darth V was way too powerful to be a good match for Joeffry.

No. Robert is only about hammering living things, drinking, hunting, and screwing (that's why he was so successful at "becoming" king and so horrible at "being" king). That's not really fitting for a paladin-paragon. No, really.

Agreed, Hinjo is nothing like Robert. If we can include the gods then Thor is the best match for Robert.

Hell yes! This is spot on.

Tarquin is too much about being the man behind the man to be a good match for Tywin Lannister. Tywin wants everyone to know he is the real power in the land. Tarquin is closer to Littlefinger (except with actual combat skills) whereas I would say Tywin is closer to Kubota. Clever, arrogant, ruthless,

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and both get killed while taunting protagonists.

[Armitage]

Did you read the books or only saw the show?

Yes, I read all the books up to and including ADWD.

As for Game of Thrones (Book 1; Season 1 of the show) I agree. For the rest? No way in hell he's just CN.

There goes the spoiler warning ;)

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Together with the Starks and a very few other exceptions in the book he's one of the few "good" characters. Check out his motivations for being Hand of the King and other things. And yes, there are a few taints, but his "general outlook" on the world if far from evil and generally far from neutral (especially check the times when he does have power can decide where things go).

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He is a positive character, but not a good one (good as in D&D alignment good).
Yes, he cares for 'cripples, bastards and broken things', to the point where helping them inconveniences him. But he thinks first and foremost of himself.
In ADWD he wants to support the Golden Company and later Danerys to get his revenge on Cersei. Not because he thinks the Targaryen are the rightful kings (at least he never gave any hint that this is what he's thinking), or because he wants to end the war in Westeros. No, he wants to bring more soldiers, more war, and more suffering to Westeros for his own interests.
That is not morally good in my book.

[t209]

Cersei really isn't that dumb. (And Sabine has never been shown to be that smart.) I think this is a pretty good pick.

Tarquin is too much about being the man behind the man to be a good match for Tywin Lannister. Tywin wants everyone to know he is the real power in the land. Tarquin is closer to Littlefinger (except with actual combat skills) whereas I would say Tywin is closer to Kubota. Clever, arrogant, ruthless,

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and both get killed while taunting protagonists.

I picked Sabine because

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Sabine is Nale's Girlfriend just like Jaime and Cersei. Plus we get to see how Elan will react to their "adventures".

I also consider about not trying to make Hollywood genetics.

[Winter]

There goes the spoiler warning ;)

It becomes fairly obvious during book 2, which is the current season. So it currently becomes "common knowledge".

Also, everyone who started to like the TV show had plenty of time to start reading the books - and book 2 has been out for years. I'm not taking a lot of regard for people who "care enough to be not spoilered but cannot be bothered to read the (better than the show) books". So yes, there goes the spoiler warning.

And let's not discuss his alignment in length, this is not really the place for it.
Also the example you gave with who is a rightful king is more a question of "lawful" anyway, not "good". And I think we can agree he surely is not Lawful.

[t209]

It becomes fairly obvious during book 2, which is the current season. So it currently becomes "common knowledge".

Also, everyone who started to like the TV show had plenty of time to start reading the books - and book 2 has been out for years. I'm not taking a lot of regard for people who "care enough to be not spoilered but cannot be bothered to read the (better than the show) books". So yes, there goes the spoiler warning.

And let's not discuss his alignment in length, this is not really the place for it.
Also the example you gave with who is a rightful king is more a question of "lawful" anyway, not "good". And I think we can agree he surely is not Lawful.

Belkar could be Robert baratheon (even though it seems weird for him to hook him up with sabine).
Can we move on to other media (see above) other than Game of Thrones)?

[Bulldog Psion]

The suggestion of Belkar as Yoda is hilarious.

"Stab you, I will, young Padawan, if give the cat tuna you do not ..."

[Winter]

Can we move on to other media (see above) other than Game of Thrones)?

Well, you started it.

[Armitage]

It becomes fairly obvious during book 2, which is the current season. So it currently becomes "common knowledge".

You're preaching to the quire ;)

Also the example you gave with who is a rightful king is more a question of "lawful" anyway, not "good". And I think we can agree he surely is not Lawful.

My point was that he is willing to plunge Westeros into another war/prolong the current war for his own selfish reasons, namely revenge. How can somebody who is willing to do that be called good?

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Not to mention killing one's own father for selfish reasons or killing one's girlfriend or... Sorry, but Tyrion just isn't a good person.

[t209]

Well, you started it.

Well, I made this thread for. not only Game of Thrones, but as to other media.
What would OOTS be like in 1980s cartoon?
- OOTS and Holograms (or other bands genre)
- OOTS Dungeons and Dragons (D&D is kinda like OOTS before OOTS and internet).
- Or both (Like Harry Patridge Video).
Or Videogames
- Neverwinter Nights
- Dragon Age I and II
- JRPG (Tales of Revelia already done that).
Or other Shakespeare
- Othello (Roy as Othello and Celia as Desdemona)
- Mcbeth
- Richard III (Hinjo as Richard "MY kingdom for a direwolf")
- King Lear (Starring Shojo, Miko, Lien and Sangwaan.)
Note: Elderscrolls, Fable and Dark Soul is kinda "Solo Adventure".

[Winter]

Give too many unspecific options and people will pick and focus on the one or two the like best. If you want a direction, at best suggest specific things to talk about instead of throwing general ideas out.

[t209]

Can we make Hinjo as Jon Snow (Strange to see him as son of Thanh, who is cast as Ned Stark) or Jorah Mormont?
Who would fit in with Tyrion Lannister (Hank, Belkar or Kilkil)?
How about Bozzok, Katos, and Thieves guild?

[B. Dandelion]

Hinjo's most likely a Stark. He's got the whole Honor Before Reason thing going for him AND a Big Badass Wolf, clearly. Jon or Robb both work pretty well IMO.

The character I think gets the closest to Shojo's masterful manipulation behind an unimposing front is Tyrion. Maybe Littlefinger if he weren't such an evil little smirking douchebag.

I'm gonna say Xykon is Euron Greyjoy. I don't think he's the Big Bad, but I don't think the Others analogy would pan out.

Redcloak as Stannis. There's one spoilerrific comparison I won't bring up, but I think they both are to a degree an underdog and they both hit kinda near that LN/LE border even if Redcloak's obviously over it already where people are still arguing about Stannis. Also the religious aspect.

Thanh - I wanna say Beric Dondarrion. A stick-in-the-mud version of Beric, but still the honorable rebel leader fighting for the oppressed in the name of the true king.

[Winter]

Redcloak as Melisandre (yes, both colour as well as gender do not fit) isn't also too bad.

Both are struggling against "the powerful" to put in the will of their gods, both are very convinced to do the right thing, both are subtly manipulating as well as forcing things in the open, and for both it's not entirely clear if their goal is actually "good", but their means clearly are beyond any moral comment (as in "evil").

[B. Dandelion]

Redcloak as Melisandre (yes, both colour as well as gender do not fit) isn't also too bad.

Both are struggling against "the powerful" to put in the will of their gods, both are very convinced to do the right thing, both are subtly manipulating as well as forcing things in the open, and for both it's not entirely clear if their goal is actually "good", but their means clearly are beyond any moral comment (as in "evil").

The color thing would work if you focused on the red aspect... even one of the titles mentions he's partial to it.

You could also say they played a role in their boss's ascension to power (via lichification and any number of things Mel's done), and both of them do (or in Redcloak's case, did) compete somewhat for their boss's ear with another, loyal underling who doesn't like or trust them.

[t209]

Next, Shakespeare.
Who will be the cast in Othello?
1. Othello- Roy Greenhilt or Elan
Desdemona- Celia or Haley
Roderigo- Unseen Celia mom or Ian Starshine
Iago- Redcloak or Nale
Cassio- Durkon or Vaarsuvius
Note: I put Elan for Othello since OOTS fans would be shocked if they see

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Roy smothering Celia to death.

[fergo]

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Roy = Luke
Elan = Han
Haley = Leia
Belkar = Yoda
Vaarsuvius = R2-D2
Durkon = Obi-Wan
Mr. Scruffy = Chewbacca
Blackwing = C-3PO
Xykon = the Emperor
Redcloak = Vader
Demon-roaches = Imperial officers
Tsukiko = Tarkin
Hobgoblins = Stormtroopers
Nale = Jabba
Thog = Jabba's rancor
Sabine or Miko = that bounty hunter guy
Zz'dtri = Bib Fortuna
Linear Guild kobolds = Salacious B. Crumb
Hinjo = Akbar
O-Chul = Lando
Lien = Nien Nunb
The Resistance = X-wing pilots
Niu = Wedge
Eugene = Owen
Dwarves = Ewoks (when the OOTS gets to Kraagor's Gate, we all know that short fuzzy guys will comically defeat a troop of Team Evil's most powerful undead)
Banjo = the Force
The Snarl = the Death Star

Fantastic . But V. as R2-D2? The mind boggles .

[Winter]

Belkar = Yoda? Seriously? Those two have nothing in common besides their size and owning a cooking pot.

[t209]

No, Obi Wan should be Julio and Durkon as Yoda (Wise dwarf, he is).

[Bulldog Psion]

Belkar = Yoda? Seriously? Those two have nothing in common besides their size and owning a cooking pot.

Yes, seriously. Durkon as Yoda would be incredibly boring. Belkar as Yoda would be hilarious, and so far as I know, this is supposed to be funny, right?