Elemental's Excitingly Excellent Random Banter: No.CLXXVII (177)

[Triscuitable]

I've never seen anything of Blackadder, ever.

Same, but I'm just a dumb teenager. What do I know?

[Feytalist]

Same, but I'm just a dumb teenager. What do I know?

Dunno. What do you know?

[AsteriskAmp]

Same, but I'm just a dumb teenager. What do I know?

I only know that I know nothing.

Dunno. What do you know?

Perhaps the important part is not in the "do" but in the "I". What does one know v.s. what has one learnt, or holds as truth.

[Feytalist]

What one has learnt, or was taught, is filtered through another's subjective view; one's teacher's.

What one knows is filtered through one's own subjective view.

Neither is necessarily correct; neither is necessarily incorrect.

[AsteriskAmp]

What one has learnt, or was taught, is filtered through another's subjective view; one's teacher's.

What one knows is filtered through one's own subjective view.

Neither is necessarily correct; neither is necessarily incorrect.

What if there is another level of subjectivity on top. Why can we not say that our senses themselves filter our perceptions? Perhaps go beyond that and say that the very language we use already predisposes us toward certain conceptions (I mean, simply look at the sheer number of modern philosophers which happen to be German speaking, from Hegel to Heideger to Schopenhauer to Popper to Nietzsche, while the French have had little production apart from Descartes [which is notoriously non-french in his way of writing], Comte and Derrida and it was mainly politically inclined)

[Feytalist]

Our environment can certainly influence our perspective. So maybe our senses can as well. "Is the red I see the same as the red you see?" What colour we see won't directly influence our thoughts, but so much meaning is attached to that colour, and meaning changes everything.

Perhaps not so much language, as regional strictures. Language does lose some of its substance in translation, and that lost substance can colour our perceptions, but what of a single language divided by two cultures? Surely that would have a larger impact in method of thought.

[CurlyKitGirl]

Hello, here to express cautious eagerness in the exam today - in that I have some good ideas and things.
Ach well, here's to good times, or at the very least, a wide array of good questions.

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!

Obligatory panic over, I approve of the discussion of British comedy, and chastise you for not discussing either Fawlty Towers or Red Dwarf yet. Oh, and while Blackadder Goes Fourth is clearly the best Blackadder, I think all of them have their charms, even the first series.

[The Succubus]

The first Blackadder was a little uneven I thought but I'd have to pick series 2 as my favourite because it has so many terrific characters like The Baby-Eating Bishop of Bath-And-Wells.

Red Dwarf.....this is dangerously close to provoking Star Wars-type reactions in me. Basically, anything up to the series that featured Psi-rens, Gunmen of The Apocalypse and Rimmerworld (series 6?) was comedy gold. Anything after that makes my skin crawl. I have nightmares that the channel called Dave once tried to do a special Red Dwarf....the screaming....the terrible plot....the awful dialogue....thank God it was just a dream, right?

[Rawhide]

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[Archonic Energy]

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Actually, I think you'll find these are the UK Avengers...

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[Amiel]

Managed to get my greedy, little hands on the Sandman graphic novels, some Batman graphic novels, the Alice in Wonderful movie (truthfully it isn't so bad), and some Cthulhu graphic novels.
Glee

Also,

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[Feytalist]

I've seen someone do that with a throwing knife. I don't know whether that is better or crappier than with a playing card. Heh.

The Sandman comics truly are great.

[Cobra_Ikari]

We would get concentrate Zodi though, which would overall maintain the density through increase in mass over volume lost.

The law of ideal postings. I'll name it Guy-Pink's Law

Unfortunately, there's no way to concentrate snuggle-time. Believe me, I've tried.

[Morph Bark]

What one has learnt, or was taught, is filtered through another's subjective view; one's teacher's.

What one knows is filtered through one's own subjective view.

Neither is necessarily correct; neither is necessarily incorrect.

Sounds like someone might be interested in the six(+) levels of learning.

Actually, I think you'll find these are the UK Avengers...

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That guy was Ralph Fiennes?! Holy ababble kedabble!

[Castaras]

Actually, I think you'll find these are the UK Avengers...

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Those are awesome. Need to get round to stealing the dvds from mum and dad when I'm next at home and watching these.

[CurlyKitGirl]

The first Blackadder was a little uneven I thought but I'd have to pick series 2 as my favourite because it has so many terrific characters like The Baby-Eating Bishop of Bath-And-Wells.

And the Whiteadders, mustn't forget the Whiteadders. "Chairs are a luxury! Nathaniel sits on a spike . . . and I sit on Nathaniel!"
Also Queenie.
And Tom Baker as the one captain.
And, of course, Lord Flashheart (WOOF!).
Also: Lord Melchett and Prince Ludwig the Indestructible.

Damn, series two's got a lot going for it hasn't it?

Red Dwarf.....this is dangerously close to provoking Star Wars-type reactions in me. Basically, anything up to the series that featured Psi-rens, Gunmen of The Apocalypse and Rimmerworld (series 6?) was comedy gold. Anything after that makes my skin crawl. I have nightmares that the channel called Dave once tried to do a special Red Dwarf....the screaming....the terrible plot....the awful dialogue....thank God it was just a dream, right?

Don't worry, series seven and eight don't exist (except for that one kiss and Rimmerworld in 'Blue'), and what's that about a special? You must have had a terrible nightmare mate.

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While I wish that was real (it would be ridiculously fun, although dragged down by a certain wizard's ANGST) I acknowledge that

Actually, I think you'll find these are the UK Avengers...

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these actually were. I've seen a review of the film, it didn't look very good. Don't know about the telly show though.

ION:
So. Back from my exam. I ended up scribbling out two pages of work to rewrite it on a slightly different tangent. What a waste of time.
Still, according to the English students in my college (Oxcamfordbridge) their Romantics paper was awful, truly awful.
I had a look. It was.
At least mine was pretty good and I had two really good questions this time around.

Nine hours down, eleven and a quarter to go. Give me strength.

[The Succubus]

And the Whiteadders, mustn't forget the Whiteadders. "Chairs are a luxury! Nathaniel sits on a spike . . . and I sit on Nathaniel!"
Also Queenie.
And Tom Baker as the one captain.
And, of course, Lord Flashheart (WOOF!).
Also: Lord Melchett and Prince Ludwig the Indestructible.

How can you not like a series with lines like "She's got a tongue like an electric eel and she likes the taste of a man's tonsils!"?

Nine hours down, eleven and a quarter to go. Give me strength.

Keep going, oh Goddess of the Written Word. Thy journey is almost done.

[Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll]

How can you not like a series with lines like "She's got a tongue like an electric eel and she likes the taste of a man's tonsils!"?

It is one of my favourite lines ever. I'm going to go quote it out of context to people.

[Thufir]

On entertainment perhaps, but overall QI would be the best show ever, if only for mixing entertainment with culture in a way that actually works.

Lulwut. Culture is entertaining, and QI actually has little to do with it. Perhaps you meant education?

I don't know, in the second season his ability to look down on people because of his noble status actually made him funnier sometimes.

Blackadder doesn't need noble status to look down on people. All he needs is intellect and wit.
Third Blackadder is best Blackadder.

Same, but I'm just a dumb teenager. What do I know?

"I'm sorry, I, I can't think of anything."
(Disclaimer: This is a Yes, Minister quote I'm not actually insulting you)

Fawlty Towers

Don't mention the war. That's all I really know about Fawlty Towers.

Red Dwarf.....this is dangerously close to provoking Star Wars-type reactions in me. Basically, anything up to the series that featured Psi-rens, Gunmen of The Apocalypse and Rimmerworld (series 6?) was comedy gold. Anything after that makes my skin crawl. I have nightmares that the channel called Dave once tried to do a special Red Dwarf....the screaming....the terrible plot....the awful dialogue....thank God it was just a dream, right?

Hey, the first two episodes of series 7 were alright. The rest of it, not so much. Series 8 was generally bad. They still had their moments, though.

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Get rid of the boy wizard and that could be pretty cool.

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Though, yeah.

the Alice in Wonderful movie (truthfully it isn't so bad)

The recent one by Tim Burton? Yes, it really is so bad. The bits of it which are actually Alice are pretty good, but they're only there as background to the terrible, boring, plot.

[LaZodiac]

The drop of quality in Tim Burton pieces make me a sad Zodi.

[AsteriskAmp]

Our environment can certainly influence our perspective. So maybe our senses can as well. "Is the red I see the same as the red you see?" What colour we see won't directly influence our thoughts, but so much meaning is attached to that colour, and meaning changes everything.

Perhaps not so much language, as regional strictures. Language does lose some of its substance in translation, and that lost substance can colour our perceptions, but what of a single language divided by two cultures? Surely that would have a larger impact in method of thought.

How do we know if what our senses are conveying is effectively what's truly there?

I was referring to how the words we have to use to think about something already shape it one way.

Obligatory panic over, I approve of the discussion of British comedy, and chastise you for not discussing either Fawlty Towers or Red Dwarf yet. Oh, and while Blackadder Goes Fourth is clearly the best Blackadder, I think all of them have their charms, even the first series.

Lack of chastising for not mentioning Yes Minister is disappointing.

Unfortunately, there's no way to concentrate snuggle-time. Believe me, I've tried.

It is possible... THROUGH SCIENCE!
All you need is a fusion reactor and to replace the atoms ones wishes to fusion with yourself and your intended target.

Lulwut. Culture is entertaining, and QI actually has little to do with it. Perhaps you meant education?

Yes, I meant tv transmitted education.

[Teddy]

If anyone thinks computers are unreliable, they clearly haven't been doing enough electronics. It's a miracle that it works consistently, or even at all. For our electronics project, we've managed to create a faulty circuit that worked (and then didn't), a circuit that spontaneously change its voltage output and a circuit that works differently after you shut it down and turn it on again. WTF?

ION:
I walked into a sliding door that apparently decided that it was a very good moment to close itself when I was passing through. Ow.

It is possible... THROUGH SCIENCE!
All you need is a fusion reactor and to replace the atoms ones wishes to fusion with yourself and your intended target.

You can concentrate time?

[AsteriskAmp]

If anyone thinks computers are unreliable, they clearly haven't been doing enough electronics. It's a miracle that it works consistently, or even at all. For our electronics project, we've managed to create a faulty circuit that worked (and then didn't), a circuit that spontaneously change its voltage output and a circuit that works differently after you shut it down and turn it on again. WTF?

ION:
I walked into a sliding door that apparently decided that it was a very good moment to close itself when I was passing through. Ow.

You've just described windows vista, variable current and a random number generator which is truly random. And a broken weight detector on a sliding door.

You can concentrate time?

I meant snuggling. But you could abuse time's relativity and make a time concentration camp in Jupiter or near the Earth's centre as well.

[Teddy]

You've just described windows vista, variable current and a random number generator which is truly random. And a broken weight detector on a sliding door.

Compared to this, Vista is as solid as stone (and I don't find it especially bad. Perhaps I'm just patient and tolerant).

Also, the sliding doors use optical methods to detect people that are passing through, not weight detectors. Also, it was locked-ish for the night.

[Rawhide]

Another DOTA 2 battle we almost lost. We were ahead on kills, but far behind on towers. They managed to wipe out all but our last line of defence and were pushing hard!

It was caused by a very lousy team that didn't know what to do or how to work together, and this time it wasn't my fault! But the team learnt, we buckled down, held back the attackers, then pushed and pushed.

We did have one more very embarrassing moment, we pushed too hard and destroyed their mid barracks ...at the cost of four of our five players. Pyrrhic victory? Almost. We were all (bar one paper tiger) out for well over a minute, if they had pushed at that moment, they could have done some serious damage. They didn't, thankfully, and our next push was much more successful.

[Teddy]

I meant snuggling. But you could abuse time's relativity and make a time concentration camp in Jupiter or near the Earth's centre as well.

Doesn't gravity decrease when you gets close to the centre, due to the fact that you put more and more of the mass behind yourself? I probably could try to calculated at what aproximate radius from the centre gravity should be the highest, but I'm too tired due to aforementioned electronics project.

[Thufir]

The drop of quality in Tim Burton pieces make me a sad Zodi.

What makes it even worse is that much of the failings in that movie can be summarised in it not being weird enough.
A Tim Burton movie. Not weird enough.
How does this happen.

(Also for some reason I keep typing 'Time Burton'. I have no idea why)

[LaZodiac]

I walked into a sliding door that apparently decided that it was a very good moment to close itself when I was passing through. Ow.

Ouch. Hope you're not to hurt!

What makes it even worse is that much of the failings in that movie can be summarised in it not being weird enough.
A Tim Burton movie. Not weird enough.
How does this happen.

(Also for some reason I keep typing 'Time Burton'. I have no idea why)

I'd actually disagree. Tim Burton, pure and simple, is just losing his charm and replacing it with Johnny Dep. I don't want another movie that is "Lets have Johnny Dep do whacky things".

[AsteriskAmp]

Doesn't gravity decrease when you gets close to the centre, due to the fact that you put more and more of the mass behind yourself? I probably could try to calculated at what aproximate radius from the centre gravity should be the highest, but I'm too tired due to aforementioned electronics project.

There is a point in which gravity is the strongest, though doing some calculations with an assumption of equal density reveals it to be before one even reaches the 1/4 point, which means less digging.

[Rawhide]

I'd actually disagree. Tim Burton, pure and simple, is just losing his charm and replacing it with Johnny Dep. I don't want another movie that is "Lets have Johnny Dep do whacky things".

Actually, that movie was "I'm so obsessed with Barnabas Collins that I wanted to be him, can you make it happen for me Tim?"