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    So, the only thing required for us to confuse one character for another is to obscure their face, pretty much. But, does this apply to the characters in comic too? I mean, Thog is GREEN. They (or at least Durkon) should be able to notice that his arms/hands/legs/whatever isn't. Is Tarquin wearing full body armor head to toe, not just helmet + chest armor? Wouldn't that be kind of weird for a barbarian? Did Thog wear gauntlets and such before?

    Or is this and actual OotSverse thing. Like, if Halley put on a helmet and Elan's clothes nobody would know it was her.

    As an aside: why is the Order even bothering to gang up on him? I mean, Elan could scare him off with some trivial illusion or trick all by himself. It's how they've dealt with Thog pretty much every time before.

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    It's a stick-figure comic. "Thog's" arms and legs are two-dimensional lines, with no obvious way to distinguish them from those of the real Thog.

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    I'm going to assume that the characters wear pants, and not merely square rectangles upon their asses.

    Headcanon: characters have sleeves and pant legs, they're all on their arms/legs and not actually drawn because that would not look as good.

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    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0675.html

    just assume hes wearing gloves, long sleeves and pants

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    And if Haley put on Elan's clothes and a helmet, she MIGHT look like Elan... Elan with boobs who has a suuden desire to wear a helmet, that is

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    and the voice...if the bubble over the head is white, means everybody has the same voice.

    size, voice, skin color, talking too much for thog, riding a pterodactil (is thog proficient in that?)...lots of clues there.

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    Yeah I think that the characters see each other legs as thin black lines. Since they seem to work as one. See Belkar cutting a ninjas leg off with a knife. In one swing.
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    The characters are stick figures and see each other as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoboldRevenge View Post
    Yeah I think that the characters see each other legs as thin black lines. Since they seem to work as one. See Belkar cutting a ninjas leg off with a knife. In one swing.
    belkars cut people in half with that knife

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    Remember that the OOTS has just had two acid bubbles dropped on them and they are now fighting for their life. It's likely their brains are entirely taken up with surviving for the next few combat rounds and they're too busy to notice fine detail.

    I expect that if they engage "Thog" for any significant number of combat rounds they will eventually twig that something is amiss. A round is 6 seconds. So far they've been engaged for -- three rounds? Four? Two acid blobs and a wind attack to prevent them flying? This is the first round they've encountered "Thog" up close , so figure they've had less than twelve seconds all told to figure it out.

    I don't think it's unreasonable for them to have been taken in by the deception up to this point. They didn't have the benefit of seeing the disguise being put on as we did, and they aren't sitting in front of a computer with all the time to spot fine details. They're fighting for their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormlock View Post
    As an aside: why is the Order even bothering to gang up on him? I mean, Elan could scare him off with some trivial illusion or trick all by himself. It's how they've dealt with Thog pretty much every time before.
    Because it's cool.

    Really though the illusions are a pretty temporary way to deal with Thog. Roy said he wants Thog taken down. Hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormlock View Post
    Is Tarquin wearing full body armor head to toe, not just helmet + chest armor? Wouldn't that be kind of weird for a barbarian?
    Probably not as weird as a leprechaun costume.
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    Obviously, he intended to pretend to be Thog for quite awhile, and had the foresight to paint his arms and legs green beforehand to make his disguise more convincing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by torugo View Post
    and the voice...if the bubble over the head is white, means everybody has the same voice.
    Anyway, the voice in that full helm, must sound strange, so less suspicions should arise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pendejochy View Post
    Obviously, he intended to pretend to be Thog for quite awhile, and had the foresight to paint his arms and legs green beforehand to make his disguise more convincing.
    Exactly. Because Tarquin is genre-savvy. The fact that he was prepared to pun-duel to fight an obscure prestige class clearly establishes that he's smart enough to always carry green paint on his person in case he ever wants to impersonate a half-orc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valyrian View Post
    Exactly. Because Tarquin is genre-savvy. The fact that he was prepared to pun-duel to fight an obscure prestige class clearly establishes that he's smart enough to always carry green paint on his person in case he ever wants to impersonate a half-orc.
    What about when Elan brings the pun-ishment.
    We know Tarquin to be able to pun duel. Thog most probably cannot.
    Of course, Tarquin could just let the attack land, but that would be kind of stupid.
    Guess we'll see next comic day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kickassfrog View Post
    What about when Elan brings the pun-ishment.
    We know Tarquin to be able to pun duel. Thog most probably cannot.
    Of course, Tarquin could just let the attack land, but that would be kind of stupid.
    Guess we'll see next comic day.
    its possible hell block elans puns while being completely in character

    of course the awesomeness of that would make most readers head explode

    most likely hell be more worried about blocking/dodging roy belkar and durkon that he would put elans rapier on the bottom of the list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forikroder View Post
    its possible hell block elans puns while being completely in character

    of course the awesomeness of that would make most readers head explode

    most likely hell be more worried about blocking/dodging roy belkar and durkon that he would put elans rapier on the bottom of the list

    Oh gods, not more Thog Unstopperable jokes.....

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    Other characters can't even tell that Haley's wearing pants.
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    Read Terry Pratchett's Masquarade. It's one of the Discworld novels, this time about opera. He comments (in ways only Terry can) about the "disguises" used in opera. A single, tiny mask, no changes in clothing, but NOBODY can identify the person thus disguised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfing HalfOrc View Post
    Read Terry Pratchett's Masquarade. It's one of the Discworld novels, this time about opera. He comments (in ways only Terry can) about the "disguises" used in opera. A single, tiny mask, no changes in clothing, but NOBODY can identify the person thus disguised.

    Actually, read any and all Terry Pratchett books. Time well spent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Angel View Post
    Another example is Superman. Remove the glasses, and Clark Kent is unrecognizable!
    Well, technically there's been remarks at various points in the comics to the effect that Clark also changes his voice and mannerisms while in his civilian dress, but that just reinforces what Surfing HalfOrc was saying: Slight obscuring of face + acting = disguise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Angel View Post
    Another example is Superman. Remove the glasses, and Clark Kent is unrecognizable!
    You know, I read an issue of Superman comics way back in the 1970's that explained how that worked...

    Superman had a new villain in town, whose name I forgot, but his power was that of super hypnosis. He would enter a bank, play this record he had strapped to his chest, then everyone would obey him and carry the loot out to his car.

    Superman had to build a giant TV, then fly it over the city, whereupon he hypnotized everyone in Metropolis to NOT be hypnotized. But when "Clark Kent" put on his glasses, everyone recognized him as Superman, wearing glasses.

    It turned out that Superman had also been hypnotizing everyone using the power of the Kryptonian lenses in his glasses, which he salvaged from the rocket ship that had brought him to earth.

    In the end, Superman had to undo his "Don't be hypnotized" hypnosis so that everyone would then be hypnotized into seeing Clark Kent once Superman put his glasses back on.
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    Oh, come on. Shrek is green, and Fiona couldn't tell until he took off his helm, remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    Oh, come on. Shrek is green, and Fiona couldn't tell until he took off his helm, remember?
    she also didnt find it odd a guy the size of a vovlo had the dexterity of gymnast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forikroder View Post
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    Oh, come on. Shrek is green, and Fiona couldn't tell until he took off his helm, remember?
    she also didnt find it odd a guy the size of a vovlo had the dexterity of gymnast
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfing HalfOrc View Post
    You know, I read an issue of Superman comics way back in the 1970's that explained how that worked...

    Superman had a new villain in town, whose name I forgot, but his power was that of super hypnosis. He would enter a bank, play this record he had strapped to his chest, then everyone would obey him and carry the loot out to his car.

    Superman had to build a giant TV, then fly it over the city, whereupon he hypnotized everyone in Metropolis to NOT be hypnotized. But when "Clark Kent" put on his glasses, everyone recognized him as Superman, wearing glasses.

    It turned out that Superman had also been hypnotizing everyone using the power of the Kryptonian lenses in his glasses, which he salvaged from the rocket ship that had brought him to earth.

    In the end, Superman had to undo his "Don't be hypnotized" hypnosis so that everyone would then be hypnotized into seeing Clark Kent once Superman put his glasses back on.
    I caught an episode of The 90s Superman once where some kind of robot sent to kill Clark Kent attacked Lois because she was trying on his glasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaros View Post
    I caught an episode of The 90s Superman once where some kind of robot sent to kill Clark Kent attacked Lois because she was trying on his glasses.
    OK -- that's taking identity confusion a little too far...

    Tarquin's little gambit looks positively iron-clad in comparison, now.
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    Since we're quoting other books and stuff I guess I can mention this...

    in "alloy of law" wayne remarks that 80% of a good disguise is about voice and mannerism. When entering the ccity, he even spend a couple of weeks just listening to peopel and learning the different speeches of places and social calsses, and he pulls some really neat trick after.

    So, Tarquin got thog's mannerism right, and he probably even got a good imitation of the voice.
    Add that the oots are figthing and may not be prone to noticing some fine details, it's perfectly believable
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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Nowere View Post
    Since we're quoting other books and stuff I guess I can mention this...

    in "alloy of law" wayne remarks that 80% of a good disguise is about voice and mannerism. When entering the ccity, he even spend a couple of weeks just listening to peopel and learning the different speeches of places and social calsses, and he pulls some really neat trick after.

    So, Tarquin got thog's mannerism right, and he probably even got a good imitation of the voice.
    Add that the oots are figthing and may not be prone to noticing some fine details, it's perfectly believable
    the only details are a slightly better grammar and vocabulary and (possibly) different smell

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