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    Hey there playgrounders

    I was wondering if there somewhere is a list Of PrC's which you can qualify for before the standard lvl 5, my google-fu is sadly letting me down atm.

    If possible i would like links to a list Of both class which requires "tricks" to early entry and also PrC's you can enter at lower levels as standard

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    Here is a list, though I'm not sure how complete it is. I don't think it takes into account early entry tricks.
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    I think you can get into Beholder Mage early using PaO. I think it can be done by fourth level. And Beholder Mages are some of the most powerful casters out there.
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    If you play your cards right, you can enter Rainbow Servant at second level.
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    all the paragon classes can be taken at any level and count as a PrC for multiclassing penalties (basically they have none)

    some are quite powerful too

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    Master of Shrouds by level 4. Two levels with a good Will save and then multiclass into another class with good Will save. Spend feats and skill points accordingly.

    (Just got my first level of MoS in a game I'm playing this way).

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    Spell levels are easily subverted. Usually a skill rank requirement is a little tricky to get around, but thier is a trick involving a reputation based feat.

    Example: Mystic Theurge requires 2nd level divine and arcane spells, but only need 6 rank in Knowledge Religion + Arcane. The spell levels can be done with Sanctum Spell (or a similar trick) and on level in 2 classes, but you have to be level 3 to get the skill ranks.
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    Two omissions from that list that stand out to me are Ordained Champion and Sanctified Mind, both accessible for ECL 4 characters without tricks.

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    The list also seems to be missing Fiend of Possession from FF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necroticplague View Post
    If you play your cards right, you can enter Rainbow Servant at second level.
    Usually done with Dread Necromancer:
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    Level 1: Versatile Spellcaster
    Human: Santuary Spell

    The Sanctuary Spell increases a spells level by 1 for free combined with trading 2 0th spells for a first level spell and then trading those floating spells for 2nd level you'll be able to get your entry. At level 11 you add the cleric's list to the your spell list making you a Cleric who doesn't have to prep spells and you can cast higher level spells by using versatile spellcaster.
    Its probably, for me, one of the most reasonable dirty tricks.
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    Cancer Mage is one you can get into at 3rd level, if you multiclass 2 good fort save classes.

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    Thief of Life (FoE) can be entered at 2nd level if you use the Generic Expert (UA).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suddo View Post
    Usually done with Dread Necromancer:
    Human Dread Necro
    Level 1: Versatile Spellcaster
    Human: Santuary Spell

    The Sanctuary Spell increases a spells level by 1 for free combined with trading 2 0th spells for a first level spell and then trading those floating spells for 2nd level you'll be able to get your entry. At level 11 you add the cleric's list to the your spell list making you a Cleric who doesn't have to prep spells and you can cast higher level spells by using versatile spellcaster.
    Its probably, for me, one of the most reasonable dirty tricks.
    DNs don't have lvl 0 spells, though this trick still works.

    Actually, I was thinking of something much simpler.
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    1st Feat:Eldritch Corruption
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    . You start off with some level 1 spells, and Eldritch corruption lets you heighten it by two levels. Bam, lvl 3 spells in one level, march right in to Rainbow Servant.
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    You can qualify for Walker in the Waste at level 2
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    Warshaper at level 4 with a full bab and changeling (or shifter, but that isn't as good).

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