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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Is there nothing Tarquin can't predict?! He's worse than frikkin' Aizen!
    I'm thinking less of Aizen's Xanatos gambits and more of that one staff meeting now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nohar View Post
    Is my english rusty, or is Elan's dialogue in last panel... Odd ? Is there a reference that I'm missing here ?
    It's maybe worded a little oddly, but it's definitely par for the course for Elan--he's basically saying he should have known that knowing stuff is bad, which is entirely appropriate for someone as clueless as he is.

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    Yeah, this page got me to register, that was easily the second most epic troll I've ever seen in a webcomic :D

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    I wonder if Elan will ever remember he has Greater Dispel Magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forikroder View Post
    the problem people have is they come into this fight assuming that Tarquin is some supremem badass whos higher level then the order by far and taking everything as evidence to support there theory instead of actually looking at the comic and realising weve only seen one and a half round of combat so we know literally nothing about how well the fight is going
    The problem is some people cannot handle their idols being served a can of whop @ss... This defense of the Order in tearful rage is like hearing one of two kids arguing that "Sooooperman would beat up the Hulk ANY DAY!!!!". What gives?

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    Well, Roy DID prove that he wasn't Thog..

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    I am loving this trip! Tarquin's flair for the dramatic is exceeded only by his planning. He is the perfect villain to counter both the Order and Team Evil.

    I think Tarquin is not going to kill anyone in the Order, but he will beat them into submission. Then when Team Evil shows up, it will be Linear Guild and the Order against Xykon. How awesome is that!

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    I can't believe that this ended up four pages in without anyone mentioning that the title/gag is a reference to the Batman comic/animated video "Under the Red Hood" where Jason Todd does this. (I know a bit of a spoiler, but it happened YEARS ago and the continuity has gone through literally three changes since).
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    I hearby rename this comic Chuck Tesla
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    I hearby rename this comic Chuck Tesla
    I think you mean Chuck Testa.

    But hey, Roy did prove it's not Thog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elros View Post
    I am loving this trip! Tarquin's flair for the dramatic is exceeded only by his planning. He is the perfect villain to counter both the Order and Team Evil.

    I think Tarquin is not going to kill anyone in the Order, but he will beat them into submission. Then when Team Evil shows up, it will be Linear Guild and the Order against Xykon. How awesome is that!
    I'm not getting into that betting pool. I've officially quit trying to guess where a certain Mr Rich Burlew is going to go, plot-wise.

    Oh... and I agree about the dramatic: for a lawful guy, he really does have a bard's soul. It's safe to carve Tarquin onto every iteration of Genre Savvy (excepting defied and inverted).

    Can't wait to see what Karma has in store...
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    Rich, you son of a gun, you got me, and apparently a lot of others, too.

    And it looks to me as if Tarquin is having more fun than he has had in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaethrag View Post
    And it looks to me as if Tarquin is having more fun than he has had in years.
    Just as planned! <insert Light's horrible laugh here>

    Actually, yeah: I think Tarquin's "let's have fun with these guys" plan is working perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enero Irontoad View Post
    So, the Order of the Stick knows it's not Thog now, but Tarquin's identity has not been revealed to them. Roy is on the ground, he and Belkar have taken considerable damage, Durkon's been thrown away, and Tarquin's armor is healing him. On top of that, they still haven't even started fighting the rest of the Linear Guild. Things are not looking good for the Order.
    Time for Team Evil to ride in and save the day. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deliverance View Post
    That was silly and out of character for Tarquin. No more silliness from him, please, it diminishes the character.
    You seem to have forgotten that Tarquin is one half of the Stereo Goofiness.

    Also a second consecutive week of perfect ending lines from Elan. The Chaotic philosophy at its finest, and particularly spot-on for a bard: he knows that Rule of Drama is in effect, so the more certain Roy is that things are the way he's figured them, the more inevitable it is that he'll suffer an unexpected twist, and Elan recognizes this. Better not to predict things that will go out of their way to remain unpredictable.

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    Where did Roy get "Leads with the other foot" from? Everyone always faces the camera, so everyone changes what foot they lead with depending on if they're facing left or right.
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    You what would be great? If this wasn't Tarquin!!! He would have fooled even the audience ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scactha View Post
    The problem is some people cannot handle their idols being served a can of whop @ss... This defense of the Order in tearful rage is like hearing one of two kids arguing that "Sooooperman would beat up the Hulk ANY DAY!!!!". What gives?

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    I don't understand why people are surprised. Tarquin may not be that higher level than the Order (meaning in a fair fight he ought to be overwhelmed) but his WBL is epic and he always comes prepared, and with the element of surprise. The point at which he resisted Durkons spell (remember, Durkon is the most effective member of the order) it becomes rather obvious that the order didn't have anything they could throw at him. Right now, if the Order wants to overcome his wealth advantage, they need that 9th level wizard spell that strips enchantments from items permanently (whose name I can't remember).

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    Great strip!

    Though I wonder what Haley is currently doing, she attacked off screen last strip. For that matter Durkon, because the Order could use a heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caractacus View Post
    You mean Nale and Tarquin, surely?
    Nope, Elan is the protagonist with a plan:
    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0836.html

    Tarquin is clearly up to something more than the obvious. He didn't need Nale alive to follow the Oots.

    Those are the two I want to know about. Nale is just trying to survive and taking the only options he has available; not to mention that if he does twist this to his advantage while being handled by Tarquin, that diminishes the main bad guy in this arc in his own specialty.

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    So proving not-Thog isn't Thog doesn't really help anyway since not-Thog was pretty much owning all of them. No point in being dead-right. And all of the rest of Team-Evil are still in the wings.

    Definitely not a situation that will be won with attack rolls...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiffet View Post
    Oh, Tarquin. You're sillier than I thought.

    I'm impressed with Roy making his Spot and seeing through the disguise, I gotta say. He's paying attention to details right in the middle of combat.
    Yeah -it's just like he uses his Intelligence score in combat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyavar View Post
    Furthermore, while most medieval style helmets are padded inside, they still REQUIRE you to wear a mask like the one Tarquin has there. Wearing a helmet without a mask will give you bruises to no end, even without combat. (ok, regenerating ring > bruises, but still).
    My arming cap does not cover my face, nor does any I've ever seen. Do a google search of "arming cap" and you'll see dozens of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by KoboldRevenge View Post
    So uh I don't really see why he's hiding his identity. Everyone already knows he is a bad guy. It's not going to be some big reveal when he does get unmasked.

    Is it much of a tactical advantage for someone not to know your name? Course he could not want to be associated with the Linear Guild.
    They jumped on him all together, which is the best way to quickly defeat a dumb barbarian who never uses magic items, but plays into the hands of a smart warrior with lots of items and tricks.

    (Besides, if they knew it was Tarquin, they have a potential hostage. Somebody - maybe the genre-savvy bard - could put a blade at the throat of Tarquin's son and demand that Tarquin surrender.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    (Besides, if they knew it was Tarquin, they have a potential hostage. Somebody - maybe the genre-savvy bard - could put a blade at the throat of Tarquin's son and demand that Tarquin surrender.)
    Uh... so you want Elan to swipe a knife off Belkar and put it to his own throat? <halo gleams unconvincingly >
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forikroder View Post
    and i wonder if theyve been legit fighting for an hour, if its some other item or if Rich is fudging the rules a bit again
    Quote Originally Posted by Baphomet View Post
    So a ring of regeneration lets the owner regenerate 1 HP per HD once per hour. That means he only regained somewhere in the vicinity of 17 HP with that, and he can't do it again for a long time. Nowhere near being the fight stopper everyone is acting like it is.
    Fight has not been ongoing for over an hour. Either the ring's power takes effect at a certain time (every hour on the hour, for example) instead of an hour after the wound was inflicted, or it heals much more rapidly than every hour. The second option seems more plausible.



    Quote Originally Posted by Forikroder View Post
    tarquin is not outpowering them at all, he managed to knock Roy out after Roy did him a favour of being completely open, tarquins didnt do anythins extra special in this comic that deserves to be ood over aside from having the will save to manage to wear a mask for two whole days in the desert with a helmet over it

    allow me to say your still nowhere close to right

    he hasnt even made Belkar faint none of them look like there in any serious danger of going down at all Roy took alot more much bigger hits from Thog and he was still able to walk away on his own fine

    the problem people have is they come into this fight assuming that Tarquin is some supremem badass whos higher level then the order by far and taking everything as evidence to support there theory instead of actually looking at the comic and realising weve only seen one and a half round of combat so we know literally nothing about how well the fight is going

    Take a look at the damage lines on the characters here, and then here. Tarquin is visibly, demonstrably, empirically kicking the order's ass. That Tarquin hasn't one-shotted anyone just means that Tarquin is not so powerful that he CAN one-shot a member of the order. You complain about people coming into the fight with presumptions about Tarquin, but you keep arguing that he is not doing as well as he clearly is, then try to claim "we know literally nothing about how well the fight is going." But here's the thing, we DO know how well the fight is going. We have damage and injury lines (which are getting quite heavy on the order, and were very light on Tarquin even before he regenerated). There is visible, undeniable proof that Tarquin is taking on the Order incredibly effectively. Just because you say he isn't doing well doesn't make it so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baphomet View Post
    So a ring of regeneration lets the owner regenerate 1 HP per HD once per hour. That means he only regained somewhere in the vicinity of 17 HP with that, and he can't do it again for a long time. Nowhere near being the fight stopper everyone is acting like it is.
    Only if you, for some reason, assume the magic item in question is a ring of regeneration. My money's on an item that allows the user to Regenerate a certain number of times per day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    My arming cap does not cover my face, nor does any I've ever seen. Do a google search of "arming cap" and you'll see dozens of them.
    Okay, maybe I confused something. I thought (but now I'm less convinced) that masks like the one of Tarquin (only eyes visible) were in use for face-conceiling helmets.

    Quote Originally Posted by BardicDuelist View Post
    I can't believe that this ended up four pages in without anyone mentioning that the title/gag is a reference to the Batman comic/animated video "Under the Red Hood" where Jason Todd does this. (I know a bit of a spoiler, but it happened YEARS ago and the continuity has gone through literally three changes since).
    "under the hood" is a common expression in english, isn't it? So, both this title and the Batman title are both puns on this expression, right?

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    You probably thought Thog was alive....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    I think Spot uses Wisdom, actually. And it takes a Spot check to notice a disguise. Roy has decent Wisdom according to that deva, though, and he has a bonus for being more familiar with Thog than the other members of the Order (except possibly Elan).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euodiachloris View Post
    Uh... so you want Elan to swipe a knife off Belkar and put it to his own throat? <halo gleams unconvincingly >
    There's precedent. There's a rather famous scene in Blazing Saddles you may want to watch. It comes right after Bart has identified himself as the new sherif.

    [the Johnsons load their guns and point them at Bart. Bart then points his own pistol at his head]
    Bart: [low voice] Hold it! Next man makes a move, the ****** gets it!
    Olson Johnson: Hold it, men. He's not bluffing.
    Dr. Sam Johnson: Listen to him, men. He's just crazy enough to do it!
    Bart: [low voice] Drop it! Or I swear I'll blow this ******'s head all over this town!
    Bart: [high-pitched voice] Oh, lo'dy, lo'd, he's desp'it! Do what he sayyyy, do what he sayyyy!
    [Townspeople drop their guns. Bart jams the gun into his neck and drags himself through the crowd towards the station]
    Harriet Johnson: Isn't anybody going to help that poor man?
    Dr. Sam Johnson: Hush, Harriet! That's a sure way to get him killed!
    Bart: [high-pitched voice] Oooh! He'p me, he'p me! Somebody he'p me! He'p me! He'p me! He'p me!
    Bart: [low voice] Shut up!
    [Bart places his hand over his own mouth, then drags himself through the door into his office]
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