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    Anyone up for mounted combat?

    Sadly, spellcasters are left out
    Any chance that the console players will see mounted combat?
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    Default The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim v1.6 Beta Patch Released

    Bethesda has released the beta version of patch 1.6 for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, with stable and console versions coming at an unspecified later date. This update adds another feature from the game jam to the game, namely mounted combat.

    1.6 Update (all platforms unless specified)

    NEW FEATURES

    • Mounted Combat
    • Skyrim now allows you to do melee and ranged combat while riding a horse

    BUG FIXES

    • General stability and memory optimizations
    • General AI pathfinding optimizations and bug fixes
    • Optimizations and crash fixes for data leaks
    • Fixed rare crash with lighting
    • Fixed crashes related to loading and saving games
    • Fixed crash with summoned creatures/NPCs
    • Fixed rare issue where saves would be corrupted
    • Improved logic for when ranged kill cams are played
    • Fixed issue with ranged kill cams while killing a dragon
    • Fixed rare issue with certain ranged kill cams not playing properly
    • Fixed issue with nirnroot lighting not properly cleaning up
    • Fixed issue where bow damage was being calculated incorrectly
    • Fixed rare problem with werewolf kill moves would not finish animating properly
    • In “The Break of Dawn” fixed rare issue where Meridia’s Beacon would disappear from player’s inventory
    • Fixed occasional issue where followers would disappear after player pays off a county after committing a crime
    • Fixed issue where certain creatures and NPCs would fail to respawn properly
    • Fixed rare issue with dialogue subtitles not displaying properly
    • Fixed issue with water appearing blurry when loading a saved game after creating a save underwater
    • Fixed issue where map cursor would occasionally disappear after closing a message box with Kinect enabled (Xbox 360)
    • Fixed rare issue with shouts only performing the first level and not other unlocked levels with Kinect enabled (Xbox 360)
    • Fixed issue where the shout buttons would stop working properly if users mashed LB and RB during cooldown with Kinect enabled (Xbox 360)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    Just decided to start a "pure" thief. Got an Argonian, made her as short as possible, coloured her lavender (because why not). She gets zero points in combat, defence, magic, any of that. Her skill points are being given up between Sneak, Speech, Lockpicking and Pickpocket and those are the only perks she's getting at all.
    She's turning out to be considerably better in a fight than my two-hander Orc was. :D

    Seriously, the perks at level 100 Sneak and level 100 Pickpocketing combine so well! Duck down mid-fight and pick their pocket while obscured by shadow, and suddenly they're naked and unarmed. And my total lack of combat perks is no longer an issue!

    If there is something in this game more hilariously entertaining than being an Offensive Pickpocket I've yet to encounter it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    Seriously, the perks at level 100 Sneak and level 100 Pickpocketing combine so well! Duck down mid-fight and pick their pocket while obscured by shadow, and suddenly they're naked and unarmed. And my total lack of combat perks is no longer an issue!
    I suppose if you steal random bones and skin off a dragon, it would impair even them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Oni View Post
    I suppose if you steal random bones and skin off a dragon, it would impair even them...
    The greatest thief ever! With the ability to steal your anatomy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Fortunately, a Monk 1/Warblade 19 uses Iron Heart Surge to end the Monk character class, and the day is saved.

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    The greatest thief ever! With the ability to steal your anatomy.
    Makes for an interesting version of the charismatic rogue who steals your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Oni View Post
    Makes for an interesting version of the charismatic rogue who steals your heart.
    Well, this can get very literal in the case of some Forsworn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinslayer View Post
    I'd say that Tullius trusts the Nords fairly well, it's just that he doesn't really want to be in Skyrim trying to figure out thier ancient traditions, at all. He just wants to kill Ulfric, smash the Stormcloaks (killing Ulfric does this anyway), and go home.
    Unlikely. Ulfric has half the realm incensed. When in the history of any insurrection ever did killing one leader end it?

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    So I accidentally gained about 8 levels last night (going from 16 to 24), all from Smithing. I had about 20 ranks in it, and wanted to level it up and make some money, so I clear out a dwarven ruin of its stuff, smelt it all down and start making things. I shot up to 100 in seconds. It was very weird. I wish I could grind other skills that fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jackal View Post
    Unlikely. Ulfric has half the realm incensed. When in the history of any insurrection ever did killing one leader end it?
    When it's a personality cult. Honestly, it doesn't instantly end the Stormcloaks, but with recruiting cut down to far smaller numbers on the SC side, and diehard SC members being fatalistic about thier rebellion, it's not going to last very long. There was no structure prepared for the death of Ulfric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karpik777 View Post
    Well, this can get very literal in the case of some Forsworn
    Hmmm, need to get Tergon to test this or build my own character - does stealing a briarheart from a Briarheart Forsworn kill them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Oni View Post
    Hmmm, need to get Tergon to test this or build my own character - does stealing a briarheart from a Briarheart Forsworn kill them?
    Actually, yes. It's kind of funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Fortunately, a Monk 1/Warblade 19 uses Iron Heart Surge to end the Monk character class, and the day is saved.

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    Right, so I just found out that as of the 1.6 update, I will be able to play a proper paladin, riding around and slaying dragons from horseback.
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    Am I the only one who sees Brynjolf and thinks of Sean Bean playing Boromir?
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    Impossible. Brynjolf survives the storyline of Skyrim. Therefore, he cannot be Sean Bean.
    Sean Bean dies, you see.
    Sean Bean always dies.
    ...but of course that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    Impossible. Brynjolf survives the storyline of Skyrim. Therefore, he cannot be Sean Bean.
    Sean Bean dies, you see.
    Sean Bean always dies.
    Yes, yes he does

    Er, spoilers... I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    Sean Bean dies, you see.
    Sean Bean always dies.
    He didn't die in Silent Hill...

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    I've seen some mods making joining the Forsworn possible, which is cool. I like having the option to join the opposing force.

    However, have their been any mods expanding the 'Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!' questline? Personally, I think it's terrible. For one, you have to kill an old woman (okay, she's evil, but it's still a defenceless old woman) to do it, which isn't really the good-guy-slaying-evil I'd hope for.

    Also: Has anyone heard of mods to crush the Thieves' Guild? I tried killing Brynjolf, but he seemed more than a little invincible. I hate that Blackbriar woman and her cronies, and want to bring order to Riften, dammit!

    How about joining that faction that are hunting down Daedra worshippers? The ones that lost a guy in Molag Bal's house of horrors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluntpencil View Post
    However, have their been any mods expanding the 'Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!'
    Also: Has anyone heard of mods to crush the Thieves' Guild?
    If I'm not mistaken, there are no such mods.

    How about joining that faction that are hunting down Daedra worshippers? The ones that lost a guy in Molag Bal's house of horrors?
    http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=13725
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    Just decided to start a "pure" thief. Got an Argonian, made her as short as possible, coloured her lavender (because why not). She gets zero points in combat, defence, magic, any of that. Her skill points are being given up between Sneak, Speech, Lockpicking and Pickpocket and those are the only perks she's getting at all.
    She's turning out to be considerably better in a fight than my two-hander Orc was. :D

    Seriously, the perks at level 100 Sneak and level 100 Pickpocketing combine so well! Duck down mid-fight and pick their pocket while obscured by shadow, and suddenly they're naked and unarmed. And my total lack of combat perks is no longer an issue!

    If there is something in this game more hilariously entertaining than being an Offensive Pickpocket I've yet to encounter it.
    Khajiit make the "purest" thief class. Argonians are most naturally assassins.

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    I disagree. Khajiit are superior assassins, because of their claws and stealthiness.

    Argonians are superior thieves, because they can dive into the water to escape easily.

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    I don't know, after they mentioned Sean Bean dying in everything, I decided to go kill Brynjolf and it worked.

    That would be the "No Essential NPC's" mod at work I'm guessing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    Impossible. Brynjolf survives the storyline of Skyrim. Therefore, he cannot be Sean Bean.
    Sean Bean dies, you see.
    Sean Bean always dies.
    He doesn't die as Sharpe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluntpencil View Post
    Also: Has anyone heard of mods to crush the Thieves' Guild? I tried killing Brynjolf, but he seemed more than a little invincible. I hate that Blackbriar woman and her cronies, and want to bring order to Riften, dammit!
    I was frustrated by that, too. I went to Riften and heard about all of the crime, the corruption, etc.. I was all intrigued, hoping to go about saving the town. Only to learn that Maven Black-Briar and most of the Thieves' Guild members are all invincible, and cannot be killed.

    Even worse, if you side with the Stormcloaks, Maven becomes the new Jarl of Riften. But if you side with the Imperials, the current Jarl keeps her seat, but she continues to be unwittingly manipulated by Maven anyway. So no matter what you do, Maven wins.

    I hate that woman.
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    Don't the Imperials install Maven as the new Jarl?

    I'm genuinely surprised there's not a mod to make a quest of that sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JadedDM View Post
    I was frustrated by that, too. I went to Riften and heard about all of the crime, the corruption, etc.. I was all intrigued, hoping to go about saving the town. Only to learn that Maven Black-Briar and most of the Thieves' Guild members are all invincible, and cannot be killed.

    Even worse, if you side with the Stormcloaks, Maven becomes the new Jarl of Riften. But if you side with the Imperials, the current Jarl keeps her seat, but she continues to be unwittingly manipulated by Maven anyway. So no matter what you do, Maven wins.

    I hate that woman.
    I think you mixed up, Maven gets the throne when you side with imperial and Laila (Current Jarl) gets to keep it when you side with stormcloaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloatingSwine View Post
    Khajiit make the "purest" thief class. Argonians are most naturally assassins.
    Quote Originally Posted by Triaxx View Post
    I disagree. Khajiit are superior assassins, because of their claws and stealthiness.

    Argonians are superior thieves, because they can dive into the water to escape easily.
    I actually agree that Argonians slightly lean more toward being Assassins than Thieves, but only just. Certainly they've got the most story-related ties to the Dark Brotherhood and Shadowscales. Khajiit, I feel, are equally balanced between the two, being quick and jumpy and powerful in a fight. But if we're talking about which race is the "purest" thief, I'd actually say that's a Wood Elf! They're best with the bow (definitely the thieviest weapon) and at all the thief-related skills, but not designed for combat otherwise.

    The reason my Thief was Argonian, however, was that she's the most appropriate race for a criminal, since in Skyrim, Argonians are hands-down the most despised race. Elves of various sorts are hated by the Stormcloaks but liked by Imperial supporters and run many businesses around Skyrim; the Khajiit are mistrusted but grudgingly respected as shrewd traders and negotiators. It's the lizards who get the shortest end of the shortest stick, so I reasoned they had the most reason to become an unapolagetic thief.

    It's actually the reason why I suspect that Elder Scrolls VI will be based in Argonia, considering how neglected their race is in this game. Their society is on the rise at the moment despite being mistreated, and they might be the ones to finally take down the Thalmor if the humans are too weakened by civil war to stop them.
    ...but of course that's just my opinion.

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    I was actually thinking about cool it would be if the really BIG DLC for Skyrim was a continuation of the "The Thalmor Can Kiss Our Collective Asses" storyline where you cross the border into Morrowind and negotiate with the Argonians to rejoin the Empire.
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    On Briarhearts: What's really funny, is that you can have Assassins sicced on you for stealing. Even if the only thing that you ever stole was a Briarheart. Thus the dead body put a hit out on you.

    Of course, someone suggested that the contract is simply on the person that stole the briar heart, but it's funnier the other way.

    Blackmarsh is the Argonian homeland.

    My Argonians have always been Thieves. My first Khajiit was a Thief and a Mage. My second was a Thief/Assassin. That was the one that did the Master Criminal Achievement.

    Hilarity ensues: A Khajiit Thief, only allowed to arm with what can be stolen. So weapons, and clothing. Of course if you're a good pick pocketer, you can rob everyone and get to 100 Pickpocket pretty fast.

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