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    Ysengrin doesn't give up easy...

    And Jimmy Jims can't fly? Then what's he doing? And how's he doing it? He should by rights be on his way down right now, not traveling the horizontal...

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    Ysengrin doesn't give up easy...

    And Jimmy Jims can't fly? Then what's he doing? And how's he doing it? He should by rights be on his way down right now, not traveling the horizontal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    Ysengrin doesn't give up easy...

    And Jimmy Jims can't fly? Then what's he doing? And how's he doing it? He should by rights be on his way down right now, not traveling the horizontal...
    Considering the small bit of looping in front of him, my guess is either an Etheric equivalent of a KK-drive or an invisible Hookshot that can latch onto the air.
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    Considering the small bit of looping in front of him, my guess is either an Etheric equivalent of a KK-drive or an invisible Hookshot that can latch onto the air.
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    Well, there is probably a rational explanation. There just isn't a rational, simple-enough-for-our-underdeveloped-brains explanation.
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    I still say Etheric KK-drive, because the idea of a KK-drive is just really cool. Seriously, if you can create gravity at a point relative to the generator and it's cheap enough to use for comfort, why not use it for propulsion?
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    So basically you are falling in the direction of travel? Interesting.
    Ysengrin looks terrifyingly badass at the moment.
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    So basically you are falling in the direction of travel? Interesting.
    Ysengrin looks terrifyingly badass at the moment.
    I assume from this that you've never read Alan Dean Foster's Commonwealth books. That is a simplified version of how it works. Basically, it generates a field of enormous gravity at a point which is fixed relative to the generator, which is placed at the front of the ship. However, if a KK-drive field intersects another gravity well (KK-drive or otherwise), unspecified Bad Things happen, so this must be a refined version. The one example of using it on a planet resulted in a miles-wide mirrored crater. They have also been used as propulsion for nuclear missiles ("SCCAM shells").
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    Ah no, no I have not.
    Hmm, assuming this version doesn't cause Bad Things, obviously, it would still need to be significantly stronger than the normal gravity. That being said, objects on free fall are weightless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens_cry View Post
    Ah no, no I have not.
    Hmm, assuming this version doesn't cause Bad Things, obviously, it would still need to be significantly stronger than the normal gravity. That being said, objects on free fall are weightless.
    Well, there is one specific drive that had somehow been engineered to not cause Bad Things. And it is much stronger, considering that that it could be used for takeoff from a planet (when the planet was unoccupied such that he could land it without every orbit-traffic controller panicking).
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    I really hope they don't keep this up until they reach the Chasm and somebody falls in. It wouldn't be so bad if they landed on the Forest side as long as Annie's not there, but if they wind up on Jeanne's side...!!

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    I really hope they don't keep this up until they reach the Chasm and somebody falls in. It wouldn't be so bad if they landed on the Forest side as long as Annie's not there, but if they wind up on Jeanne's side...!!
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    Jeanne apparently only crossed the Waters because Annie was on the other side. She's otherwise confined or content to stay on the Court side. But there was something about Annie so powerful it drew her over...

    Or so I believe I remember Mr. Siddell saying.

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    THANK YOU JIMMY JIMS.

    It really did need to be said.
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    She didn't need anything, but needed to be rescued. Annie still has a ways to go, or she just doesn't like Jimmy. Or still traumatized by an angry insane tree-wolf thing chasing her through the woods.
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    A poster on the GC forum came up with an interesting suggestion. Namely, that with Anthony abandoning her, Annie had latched on to Ysengrin as a father substitute. He was big, strong - enough so she could ride on his shoulder - a teacher, an encourager... Gruff, but still willing to accept her affection. If this is true, having been apparently rejected by the two main male models in her life, she will be in NO shape right now to accept Eglamore's hard truth. And in fact this may push her over the edge...

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    I don't think it would push her over the edge, but it looks like another step in that most painful of experiences: growing up.
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    Ah, and I am suddenly reminded that she is actually just a child. She seems fairly mature most of the rest of the time, it's a little jarring(and more than a little disappointing) to see that after all that she apparently hasn't learned anything yet.

    Ysengrin just threatened her life for the third time and she still doesn't seem to understand that he's a dangerous psychopath with severe anger management problems, not a giant teddy bear. Perhaps Eglamore can beat talk some sense into her.

    *edit: I like that his giant shoulder pauldron thing is a backpack.
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    Indeed...

    Y'know, if this were the work of a lesser artist whose writing I didn't trust nearly so much I'd start to get curious as to why the Court, while sketchy, is repeatedly being shown to be right about the Forest and its denizens...
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    BLAM! EXACTLY what I was talking about! Just more of it, and from more animals please!

    No hospitality, no restraint, but natures instinct.

    I just thought that thematically the natural magics of nature should be blunt (And have both a good side and a bad side) whilst the court symbolizing technology and man should be much more complicated (Even overcomplicated).

    I just hope to see more of natures primality. This is a good start though.

    So words taken somewhat back. Im still annoyed by some things lacking point but at least natures shown some balls.

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    Nature can be overcomplicated too. Just look at the life cycle of this parasite. It involves four different hosts and mind-control.
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    I get it. But its mostly instinct.

    Nature is essentially: Eat, Sleep, Crap, Reproduce.

    Humanity has ways of making that cycle a billion times more complicated, for better of for worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scowling Dragon View Post
    No hospitality, no restraint, but natures instinct.
    Except she's not natural prey and anger is not part of nature's instinct. As far as I can tell, Ysengrim is just as much of a perversion of nature as the court, it's just he's been done up with etheric malarkey and possibly human subconsciousness depending upon where the grain of truth in Coyote's words lay while the court does science and etheric malarkey.
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    So the forest is essentially human anyway?

    That makes sense because of the green elves.

    So maybe its all an illusion? That either way man controls?

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    So the forest is essentially human anyway?

    That makes sense because of the green elves.

    So maybe its all an illusion? That either way man controls?
    Well no, the forest seems to be a non human sentient society.

    But the key word there is sentient, once you introduce sentience it's not the instictive nature you're talking about. It's just a different type of society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scowling Dragon View Post
    So the forest is essentially human anyway?
    It's essentially a perversion of nature in one form or another from what's been shown so far. And legalistic, if you'll recall the idiot parents who didn't even bother to get their son's attention before getting him entangled in a magical contract to become a bloody bird. Nature shouldn't even have a sense of what a contract is, as contracts are entirely artificial. The glass-eyed men, if they really are creations of Coyote are not natural, they are imperfect artificial creations that live in the forest just as much as the robots are imperfect artificial creations that live in the court.

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    That makes sense because of the green elves.
    I've been quite interested in finding out just what those are, exactly. If they're the descendants of the original members of the court who rejected their humanity to side with the forest or if they're some sort of dryad or nature spirit or what.

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    So maybe its all an illusion? That either way man controls?
    If our fears become demons do we control them?

    Judging by the way most people are with their fears and subconscious desires, I would say no.
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    Its kind of disappointing. It kind of ruins the:

    Instinct VS Thought
    Man VS Nature
    Known VS Unknown.

    thing that I thought was going thematically.

    So the only thing there is is Court VS Forest. Makes it a whole lot weaker.

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