Gunnerkrigg Court 3: Mystery Solved!

[Giggling Ghast]

It's going to be something silly, you guys.

"... humans make more delicious bagels than the people of the Forest!"

And then later Ysengrin will say "I'm glad you did not share the REAL secret, Coyote."

[eee]

Wait, WAIT!!! A THOUGHT has occurred to me! (Which is pretty epic in itself...) Coyote's Great Secret is why he loves humans, but it makes Ysengrin seethe... I believe Mr. Siddell said Coyote has (or had) a son... Is it possible Coyote had (or has) a HUMAN wife??? And if she betrayed Coyote or broke his heart, and Ysengrin knew about it...

Now we'll see how wrong I am!

[ThirdEmperor]

It's going to be something silly, you guys.

"... humans make more delicious bagels than the people of the Forest!"

And then later Ysengrin will say "I'm glad you did not share the REAL secret, Coyote."

And then Coyote's all like 'What real reason? I really do love delicious bagels' and Tom's all 'Mystery solved!' in the author comments.

[Ravens_cry]

He had a hand in creating humanity?
A common theme in Trickster mythos.
Raven found humans in a giant shell, Prometheus created humanity from clay, Coyote himself also had a part I believe.
Perhaps 'too obvious', but certainly in-keeping with the themes.

[Giggling Ghast]

"We are all imaginary constructs of some human's mind!"

EDIT: Called it, in a way.

So, is that a philosophical statement or an actual revelation regarding Coyote's nature?

[Lizard Lord]

New comic is up.

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It seems Candle Jack's guess is closer to truth then I am guessing he actually thought.

Also: What.

[Mono Vertigo]

... this one, I wasn't expecting.

[SlyGuyMcFly]

Coyote just keeps on amping the creepy.

[Glass Mouse]

What the-?

[Mauve Shirt]

Huh. That is very strange...
I guess it does explain why Ysengrin seethes with anger, he's being ordered around by something that doesn't exist. It also explains why Coyote's in England in the first place. I never really bought the whole "Oh I heard there were other dogs over here" excuse, especially since there are plenty of powerful god-dogs in South America for him to hang with. Perhaps he was created by Gunnerkrigg humans to separate them from the forest and keep Reynard and Ysengrin under control.

[eee]

Well, that's... existential...

Can't wait to see how Annie reacts to this.

[stsasser]

Coyote Ghost: Watch da Hell outta it!

[John Campbell]

... Yeah, Coyote is totally the kind of guy who would dissolve himself into a skeleton just to mess with somebody.

[Ravens_cry]

Wow, that was like a screamer page without any sound.
Seriously, that made my hair stand on end.
There is a variety of possible explanations for what this means. Perhaps the Forest, or Coyote in particular, was created by the Court, or at least humans.
Or a human, Antimony's father perhaps?
Dammit.

[Mono Vertigo]

Okay, huh, so my prediction is that he only "exists" through stories featuring him. As long as he doesn't get forgotten, stories are going to be told about him. Also, simply attributing him a power in a story gives him that power. He's that powerful because of memetic retelling (also explains why he's so mischievous and over-the-top; there is no better way to have people go "OMG, haven't you heard? Coyote stole the moon! I'm sure he's going to steal the sun next time!"). If, for some reason, people stop sharing tales and anecdotes about him, he will stop being (not existing, because he doesn't; just stop being altogether).
So that's why he begs Annie to tell him stories about himself.
If she won't do it with her acquaintances, he can at least force her to tell him about himself.
Now, as to where he comes from exactly? Heh, dunno. Maybe he was born from the first story featuring him, by accident.

[Squark]

Mind=Blown


That's... about all I have to say, really.

[Qwertystop]

Mind=Blown


That's... about all I have to say, really.

Don't you mean Mind==Blown?

EDIT: Wow, that programming class really did a number on me...

[Dr.Epic]

That just blew the Socrates out of my Nietzsche and into my Confucius.

[Glass Mouse]

That just blew the Socrates out of my Nietzsche and into my Confucius.

You win everything

[Arrghus]

Don't you mean Mind==Blown?

EDIT: Wow, that programming class really did a number on me...

No no, he sets Mind to Blown, just to illustrate how badly off he is. It's a metaphor.

[Squark]

No no, he sets Mind to Blown, just to illustrate how badly off he is. It's a metaphor.

Uhh... Or I had no idea there was a programming element there.

[Dr.Epic]

You win everything

YAY!!! What do I win?

[BRC]

No no, he sets Mind to Blown, just to illustrate how badly off he is. It's a metaphor.

If (Coyote== void)
Mind = Blown;

[Pie Guy]

If (Coyote== void)
Mind = Blown;

if(mind == blown)
{
Emotion disbelief= new Emotion(blown);
System.out.print(disbelief);
}

[eee]

Oh yeah, Annie's calm in the face of such titanic news. She's probably so used to Coyote by this time he'd have to claim he was her REAL father to get a rise out of her.

The art is beautiful...

[Ravens_cry]

I think I see where this is going.
But then, I've been very, very wrong before.

[Gez]

Oh yeah, Annie's calm in the face of such titanic news. She's probably so used to Coyote by this time he'd have to claim he was her REAL father to get a rise out of her.

Too tame and predictable. Coyote will just turn out to have been Antimony's real mother.

[Ravens_cry]

Too tame and predictable. Coyote will just turn out to have been Antimony's real mother.

Wouldn't be the first time a trickster typically presented as male was pregnant and gave birth.
For bonus points, the example I am thinking of was commonly associated fire.

[Landis963]

Wouldn't be the first time a trickster typically presented as male was pregnant and gave birth.
For bonus points, the example I am thinking of was commonly associated fire.

Prometheus? Raven? Loki?

[Ravens_cry]

Prometheus? Raven? Loki?

Loki is who I was thinking of in particular, though other examples may exist for all I know. The beget being one Sleipnir.