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2012-06-03, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
I'm trying to get together a wardrobe for a character who is very fond of changing clothes.
1. What outfits exist that grant a bonus to a skill or save or other roll or ability?
2. What various special materials are there that clothing can be made of in DnD?
3. What books (and if possible, on what page) are these?
EDIT:Things I'm looking for are items that are worn, but do not take up magic item slots. This means that most items that qualify are nonmagical items.Scratch that, even the awesome Shift Weave takes up a slot and I'd rather not exclude those. Magic items that have a relation to clothes are a go!Last edited by Morph Bark; 2012-06-03 at 02:04 PM.
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2012-06-03, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
Eberron has a bunch, Darkweave(+1 to hide), Glamerweave(+1 to diplomacy) in the ECS
MoE has Chameleoweave(+1 disguise), Dolweave(+1 intimidate)
I thought there was more, but I can't seem to find em...
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2012-06-03, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-03, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
I see no reason why you couldn't have Shadowsilk(ToM 155) clothes. +2 hide and move silent, though most of what you get comes from it being on armor.
Black Bodysuit gives +2 to hide. Shadowsilk Black Bodysuit?
Forester's cloak. +1 hide in a forest.
Silent Shoes? +1 move silently.
Will do some more looking. This seems useful.
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2012-06-03, 10:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Robe of many professions - changes into garb of ordinary professions +5 disguise checks.
Burglars Vest - produces items used for burglary
Vestment of many styles - suit of clothes that transforms itself into different fabrics and designs +2 disguise checks"The icy cold fingers of reason have choked the life out of this threadand despite all logic it keeps squirming", nope, it's dead.
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2012-06-03, 10:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
If magical clothing counts, here are a pair of my favorites:
Travel Cloak, Magic of Faerun, page 166
It is a relatively cheap magic item (just over a thousand gold) that provides all your food and water, wards of precipitation, gives you endure elements (cold), and can turn into a tent. I love this one.
Shiftweave, Magic Item Compendium, pages 133-134
A very cheap magic item (500 gold), this is multiple garments in one, switching between five outfits determined at its creation as a swift action.
Here's some non-magic stuff:
Sandstorm has three outfits on page 101, Desert Clothing, Heatsuit, and Hydration Suit, which are all designed to protect against heat and dehydration. In the same chapter, a few pages before the outfits, it also adds in some new armor types, some armor add ons, a mask to protect against sandstorms, and (my favorite) a parasol. Oh, and sun glasses.
Frostburn also has some stuff on page 78. You can find Fur Clothing, Winter Fullcloth, skates, skis, snowshoes, and snow goggles there, all of which are basically what they sound like.
Stormwrack has a number of items on page 108. It has the prices for bicorne and tricorne hats (though neither do anything), swimming goggles, and an oilskin suit.
Complete Scoundrel has no complete outfits or pieces of clothing, but has entire page about hidden spaces and blades. From page 107 to 110, you can find rules for lead lined clothing, inside pockets, hollow heeled boots, and blades from just about any portion of your body that you might want.
Arms and Equipment Guide has all kinds of stuff. This is 3.0 material though, so be warned. A lot of stuff has also been updated in other places by now. Still, it has Silent Shoes (page 24, bonus to move silently), stilts (page 26), thieving helmet (page 26, bonus to listen), a jester's kit and swimmer's kit (page 28), and various outfits from page 29 to 30 including an animal trainer's outfit, a beekeeper suit, a spelunker outfit, a black bodysuit (bonus on hide), a miner's helmet, and a knife vest.
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2012-06-03, 10:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
Okay, lesse, Iron Kingdoms has the Longcoats. Those give AC.
A/EG has the heat suit(-4 to the DCs of heat endurance saves), Cold suit(+1 to saves against cold), and the gas mask(Okay, filter mask, +2 on saves v. gasses). This is off the top of my head, AFB, but I think that's right.
RoS, 160~(IIRC), Earthsilk. DR1/Bludgeoning, can break if critted.
Shiftweave(500GP, MiC) lets you make it look different, so you only need one or two totally optimized outfits. Also in this book are the hideously overpriced shirts of minor DR. For a bit under 150,000GP(Between 9 and 15K apiece), IIRC, if you stack them all, you can have DR3/Bludgeoning, Slashing, Piercing, Chaotic, Lawful, Good, Evil, Silver, Cold Iron, Adamantine, and Magic.
I also see no reason why you can't have a shirt made out of all of the above special materials together. Can anyone tell me if there is?
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2012-06-03, 10:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
There's a Dust Mask from Sandstorm, I think. And TWO versions of sunglasses in D&D.
Also, for diplomatic stuff, a Noble's Outfit + Jewelry + Signet Ring + Masterwork tool of Diplomacy (even MORE jewelry!) is useful.
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2012-06-03, 10:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
Artificers monocle gives you identify although you might just consider that a magical item and not "clothing"
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2012-06-03, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
Here's a few more odd items:
Sashling, from Races of the Wild, page 170. It's basically a belt with a ton of pockets, especially a ton of hidden pockets. Grants a bonus on sleight of hand to hide items.
Wand Bracer, from Dungeonscape, page 33. Holds five wands (or similar items, I'd assume), which you can draw as a swift action. Replacing them is more difficult. Could be useful in a pinch.
Planar Handbook actually contains a few interesting outfits on pages 70 and 71. The Ether Harness is made to tie people together, and grants a bonus on use rope for that purpose (for stuff like traveling in the ethereal realm, though it could also work for dark areas or climbing, I'd think). It also contains a fireproof clothing mod for 50 gold, and a weight suit which counteracts light gravity environments (though I'm sure a clever person could think of other uses for it).
Sundark Goggles are similar to Snow Goggles from Frostburn, and are found on page 123 of Races of the Dragon. They provide a different bonus though, namely a saving throw bonus against gaze attacks.
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2012-06-03, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
There are a few masterwork things in forgotten realms campaign setting. Masterwork Potion Belt, Masterwork Bandolier, stuff like that.
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2012-06-03, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
I don't know if there is a specific rule against it... Is there a specific rule against armor not being able to be made of both mithral and adamantine? If so, then it stands to reason clothes also cannot be made of multiple materials.
I suppose Shiftweave could have five different outfits of different materials though. That'd be nifty.
An artificer's monocle is pretty explicitly a magic item. I am just looking for items that don't fill magic item slots, but are clothing. This means that Shiftweave is one of the few magic items that qualifies. Most other items that fall under these qualifiers are nonmagical items.Homebrewer's Signature | Avatar by Strawberries
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
The rule for armor and weaponry is this:
If you make a suit of armor or weapon out of more than one special material, you get the benefit of only the most prevalent material.
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
Stone Cloth (DC p. 119 or DM #280) stops you from catching fire.
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2012-06-03, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
Is there a set crafting cost in making a mundane item with a skill increase.
Say for instance I wanted to make a pair of pants that increased jump checks by 5, how much it would it cost to make?"The icy cold fingers of reason have choked the life out of this threadand despite all logic it keeps squirming", nope, it's dead.
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2012-06-03, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
So could you make a pair of pants that provide a +2, a pair of shoes that provide a +2, and a shirt that provide a +2 and have them stack?
Hmm, I didn't find the rules for making them but similar +5 skill check items are 3,750gp market price and a +10 is 15,000gp market price.Last edited by Invader; 2012-06-03 at 12:50 PM.
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
Masterwork items provide a circumstance bonus. While circumstance bonuses usually stack (unless otherwise specified), custom items are subject to DM discretion, and as such would be open to interpretation.
I'd, personally, rule they do not stack. In other words, that an entire set of clothing must be so crafted. But you could have +2 shoes of move silent, +2 clothes of hiding, etc. Note that this is prior to special materials being applied, so if a special material further enhanced the bonus (and the cost modifier as described added to the crafting cost or purchase cost), I'd allow that to stack. But no shoes +2 hiding, pants +2 hiding, shirt +2 hiding, cape +2 hiding, mask +2 hiding, and so forth.
EDIT: partially swordsaged, but I think my answer is still more complete than the above.Last edited by mattie_p; 2012-06-03 at 12:55 PM.
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
He said +2 item. That means magic item, rather than masterwork tool.
And, regardless, bonus from the same source=no stacking, even Circumstance Bonuses.
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Please see the reference I linked from the SRD. Circumstance bonuses do stack, unless specified in the item, spell, power, soulmeld, or whatever, description, or unless from essentially the same source. A spell that provides a circumstance bonus combined with an item/masterwork tool that provides a circumstance bonus would, most likely, stack. And a tool that provides a +2 bonus to a skill does not automatically mean a magic item. But it does not rule it out, either.
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Re: Get ALL the clothes! [the best 3.5 Clothing]
Masterwork tools explicitly don't stack.
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Originally Posted by Circumstance Bonus
A spell that provides a circumstance bonus combined with an item/masterwork tool that provides a circumstance bonus would, most likely, stack. And a tool that provides a +2 bonus to a skill does not automatically mean a magic item. But it does not rule it out, either.
And +2 item is shorthand for a magic item granting a +2 bonus. So, when +2 item is said, it is assumed to be a magic item.
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Ok, we're agreeing, I think, just using different words, regarding the masterwork tools with circumstance bonus. I apologize if I failed to make clear my point. I do concur that circumstance bonuses from "essentially the same source" do not stack.
However, I beg to differ regarding the second half of your post.
And +2 item is shorthand for a magic item granting a +2 bonus. So, when +2 item is said, it is assumed to be a magic item.Blank 3.5 Character Creator Iron Chef Style Tables (in Google Sheets)
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