Goblins IX: For that, you shall DIE!

[Draconi Redfir]

That is some impressive work. sm

No kidding. Though im pretty sure Thunt wasnt going for a "forrest fire" feel in that scene


Still an awsome image though

[Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll]

Oh man if that's what we can expect from the new colourerorperson...

[Morquard]

I have to say I wouldn't mind if that Orc dies right there. And really horribly. He's ugly, stupid and utterly unsympathetic.

Grem on the other hand at least has a personality.

And despite that the orc probably still has alot of fans...

[Gez]

And despite that the orc probably still has alot of fans...

Hey, alot of fans must be handy during a heatwave.

I wouldn't mind both of them killing each other, really. Biscuit really reeks of "let me tell you about my half-elf ranger" syndrome: the guy is a collection of hodgepodge character traits that seems like they've been chosen because they seemed cool to a player that needed to reroll a new PC. (I wouldn't be surprised if it were, in fact, deliberate.) But that doesn't make him a good story character. In fact he's not even a good roleplaying character.

And Grem is yawn. Just yawn.

[teratorn]

I have to say I wouldn't mind if that Orc dies right there. And really horribly. He's ugly, stupid and utterly unsympathetic.

Damn, now I can relate to him. Hang on there buddy, for all the ugly, stupid and utterly unsympathetic people.

[Maryring]

If you can relate to him, he is not unsympathethic because you have sympathy for him. Therefore you have no reason to have sympathy for him.

[willpell]

And despite that the orc probably still has alot of fans...

Yep, I'm one of them. Grem isn't really a person to me, but Biscuit's "You look shaken" is permanently branded into my brain as one of those scenes that I'll probably remember at random moments once or twice a month for the rest of my life.

[HandofShadows]

Frankly, "It's a very sunny day" is his best line for me. Also I don't think he is all that stupid. He manged to escape the Switchbeast and get it to attack the Vipers by using his head.

[Emperordaniel]

I prefer Biscuit to Grem myself; I do want both to survive, though.

[Strawberries]

I prefer Biscuit to Grem myself; I do want both to survive, though.

To be 100% honest, I don't like either of them (but then again, I don't like Dies and Fox that much, either). If I really have to chose, I'd go for Grem. Biscuit really annoys me.

[JadedDM]

I notice everyone seems to think that one person in each match-up is going to die. Was that confirmed by Thunt or something? Or is this just a big assumption?

[willpell]

We dont' know for sure that anyone will die, but it seems probable based on the teaser that at least one character will. Of course, whether any of them other than Dies counts as a main character is up for debate. (And he already died horribly, so it'd be kinda anticlimatic for him to die less-horribly now.)

I reiterate my fondness for Biscuit (though it seems likely Grem will kill him just based on the fact that the comic is named Goblins rather than Goblins and a Giant Orc, plus there's the absurdly obvious romantic subplot between him and Fox that's almost certain to come). Since Duv is the comic's top villain (apart from possibly Kore) and Random Viper Boy isn't a main character by any sane definition, Biscuit is far and away the likeliest casualty, but I'll miss him. A gigantic, very wise orc was just too awesome a character (although I could have lived without the transparent lips, they make his expression difficult to read).

(And I don't know who said he was stupid but it wasn't me. That's part of why I like him, even if it admittedly makes his orc-ness more of a stretch than it already was due to his size and the transparent parts.)

[Morquard]

It was me, but when I said stupid, I didn't mean it in the sense of not intelligent. I meant it as "it's just a stupid character concept".

His most defining trait is his "I don't care for anything", but if you don't care that you lost something, then there's no motivation to try to protect what you have. Or to maintain a friendship even if it doesn't 100% match with your goals.

[Doran]

It was me, but when I said stupid, I didn't mean it in the sense of not intelligent. I meant it as "it's just a stupid character concept".

His most defining trait is his "I don't care for anything", but if you don't care that you lost something, then there's no motivation to try to protect what you have. Or to maintain a friendship even if it doesn't 100% match with your goals.

It's not that he doesn't care for anything, but once something is irretrievably lost he moves on without mourning.

[willpell]

It's not that he doesn't care for anything, but once something is irretrievably lost he moves on without mourning.

Well more precisely we don't really know whether he cares or not. It hasn't really come up; other than getting understandably annoyed with the vipers, he doesn't show any particular motivation to date.

[Androgeus]

just based on the fact that the comic is named Goblins rather than Goblins and a Giant Orc

It's not called Goblins and a Human, Dwarf and Yuan-Ti either.

[Cen]

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o_O that is stupid idea Grem. it took Mr. Fingers disease several minutes to kill K'sellis, and you are barely alive after just secdonds of fight with Biscuit

[Marnath]

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o_O that is stupid idea Grem. it took Mr. Fingers disease several minutes to kill K'sellis, and you are barely alive after just secdonds of fight with Biscuit

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He has gloves, it's fine.

I cheered out loud at panel 6. Run from me? I don't think so! Attack of Opportunity go! Critical hit! That's what happens when you play fast vs strong and lose.

Grem will probably win though, that's a hell of a bio-weapon he's got there.

[Draconi Redfir]

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Uh oh. that aint good.

[Marnath]

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My theory now is that Biscuit will dodge, or make his saves long enough to pulverize Grem.

[Shpadoinkle]

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My theory now is that Biscuit will dodge, or make his saves long enough to pulverize Grem.

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I don't know. Thunt kind of likes anticlimaxes... So, I'm placing my bet on something like (but not necessarily) Grem throwing the finger at Biscuit in desperation, and either missing completely, or Biscuit simply swatting it away with the flat of his axe or the back of his hand (the part covered by his gloves, since evidently it has to be skin-to-skin contact for the melting effect to trigger) and following up by decapitating Grem.

[teratorn]

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o_O that is stupid idea Grem. it took Mr. Fingers disease several minutes to kill K'sellis, and you are barely alive after just secdonds of fight with Biscuit

Aim for the head.

[t209]

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He has gloves, it's fine.

I cheered out loud at panel 6. Run from me? I don't think so! Attack of Opportunity go! Critical hit! That's what happens when you play fast vs strong and lose.

Grem will probably win though, that's a hell of a bio-weapon he's got there.

My Money on Grem too!

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though biscuit could hit the finger with his double axe and hit Grem if Grem throws it.

[Mastikator]

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To be honest I don't mind if both of them, in their current weakened state, die to the disease of Mr Fingers.

[Darkspear]

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Is there any feat Biscuit could take that adds his wisdom modifier to his fort save? Or does he have to take a level of monk?

According to the stat block that shall not be referenced, it would be what, a 16 to save (assuming a minor finger)? That should easy for Biscuit to make with either of those.
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[The Glyphstone]

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o_O that is stupid idea Grem. it took Mr. Fingers disease several minutes to kill K'sellis, and you are barely alive after just secdonds of fight with Biscuit

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I don't think that's his plan. He knows even K'Sellis eventually succumbed - if he can land a single hit on Biscuit with the finger, it'll mean Biscuit dies. Grem might also die, but it'll be a posthumous revenge for his clan.

[Draconi Redfir]

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I don't think that's his plan. He knows even K'Sellis eventually succumbed - if he can land a single hit on Biscuit with the finger, it'll mean Biscuit dies. Grem might also die, but it'll be a posthumous revenge for his clan.

That's only if he hits like, his head or something. K'sellis lost an arm and survived for a pretty long while.

[willpell]

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My thought was that Biscuit may recognize Mr. Fingers and stop attacking long enough to discover Grem's identity; they're fighting now because Biscuit just sees another Viper and Grem just sees somebody killing Vipers, if they talk to each other they might decide they're on the same side.

[The Linker]

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o_O that is stupid idea Grem. it took Mr. Fingers disease several minutes to kill K'sellis, and you are barely alive after just secdonds of fight with Biscuit

Um... what would you do? He's got no weapons, we just saw he can't outrun Biscuit... this is a last-ditch thing. What else is he gonna do?

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I don't think that's his plan. He knows even K'Sellis eventually succumbed - if he can land a single hit on Biscuit with the finger, it'll mean Biscuit dies. Grem might also die, but it'll be a posthumous revenge for his clan.

Going strictly by the rules, you don't die due from a single hit; you have to fail your save three times to fully succumb.

Of course, this comic isn't strictly run by the rules. If he manages to hit Biscuit's neck, or stuff it down his throat, then yeah, he can at least assure Biscuit's death.

[willpell]

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Um... what would you do? He's got no weapons, we just saw he can't outrun Biscuit... this is a last-ditch thing. What else is he gonna do?

The suicidal part would be that he saved a piece of Mr. Fingers in the first place (assuming that it retains potency after the monster's death). It would be like carrying a glass vial of Ebola in your pocket and saying "Oh, I just won't bump into anything".

Going strictly by the rules, you don't die due from a single hit; you have to fail your save three times to fully succumb.

From this I assume that Thunt's infamous stats for Mr Fingers based his "blueifying" effect on Mummy Rot?