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    well the one thing we can all agree on is that the tides have turned on poor biscuit

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    Where is the Switchbeast? That may well turn the tide again.

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    The fight is not over just yet, but I will be sorely disappointed in Thunt if Biscuit's hand/arm becomes infected while he's reaching for the bag of potions.
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    I'm still holding out for that his leg is now infectious, and he chops it off and beats everyone to death with it.

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    I've noticed that Biscuit is not too far away from that pouch of potions. I don't know if he could temporary heal himself and at the very least keep the rotting at bay. But like someone else mentioned, he may very well just cut is own leg off to survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomFox View Post
    I'm still holding out for that his leg is now infectious, and he chops it off and beats everyone to death with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiffleboy View Post
    I've noticed that Biscuit is not too far away from that pouch of potions. I don't know if he could temporary heal himself and at the very least keep the rotting at bay. But like someone else mentioned, he may very well just cut is own leg off to survive.
    He may also wing his axe at the archers, he could take most of them with him by throwing it horizontally. Maybe he'll just take half a dozen 1D4 small arrows to the face and die. Just because it's anti-climactic doesn't mean it won't happen. Like with Chief.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elystan View Post
    I wasn't fond of Grem before this, but he's going way up in my esteem for slowing down the psycho orc. I kind of hope he survives and has to live as a crippled goblin slave.
    That's a terrible thing to wish :/
    Also. I sort of doubt the Vipers are quite that stupid. You don't let the greatest threat your people have faced in a generation live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marnath View Post
    Also. I sort of doubt the Vipers are quite that stupid.
    Indeed. Based on their characterization in the last couple dozen pages; I'd say they are a lot more stupid than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elystan View Post
    I wasn't fond of Grem before this, but he's going way up in my esteem for slowing down the psycho orc. I kind of hope he survives and has to live as a crippled goblin slave.
    That's...disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elystan View Post
    I wasn't fond of Grem before this, but he's going way up in my esteem for slowing down the psycho orc. I kind of hope he survives and has to live as a crippled goblin slave.
    Despite your morbid hopes, this won't happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens_cry View Post
    At least two extra panels are needed to show what happened, Grem running around or through Biscuit's legs, dodging a blow or dancing out of reach, and then jumping on his back.
    Otherwise, it just feels like like teleportation.
    Yes, that would have been nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elystan View Post
    I wasn't fond of Grem before this, but he's going way up in my esteem for slowing down the psycho orc. I kind of hope he survives and has to live as a crippled goblin slave.
    Although I don't wish this on him, nor do I think it is likely, karma wise I think it would be fitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityGrace View Post
    Although I don't wish this on him, nor do I think it is likely, karma wise I think it would be fitting.
    Huh? What has Biscuit done to deserve life as a crippled slave?

    So far he's:
    Saved Dies and Fox from demons
    Been attack by a clan of xeonphobic goblins
    Been betrayed by a clan of xenophobic goblins
    Stopped said clan from completing their prophecy of world domination
    Kicked some serious goblin ass

    Where's the bad karma he's gotta work off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dienekes View Post
    Huh? What has Biscuit done to deserve life as a crippled slave?

    So far he's:
    Saved Dies and Fox from demons
    Been attack by a clan of xeonphobic goblins
    Been betrayed by a clan of xenophobic goblins
    Stopped said clan from completing their prophecy of world domination
    Kicked some serious goblin ass

    Where's the bad karma he's gotta work off?
    If Karma gives Biscuit his due, it won't be slavery, it'll be more like switchbeast coming to play with the archers while he gets potions and deals with the rot creeping up his leg.
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    Wasnt there some sort of will save to the decay effect? Im pretty sure biscut has one hell of a high will considering he has lasted a couple hundred years of torture without his mind breaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Wasnt there some sort of will save to the decay effect? Im pretty sure biscut has one hell of a high will considering he has lasted a couple hundred years of torture without his mind breaking.
    Who says this isn't Biscuit with his mind broken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Wasnt there some sort of will save to the decay effect? Im pretty sure biscut has one hell of a high will considering he has lasted a couple hundred years of torture without his mind breaking.
    Fortitude save, actually. The will save is for running away screaming when you see the Finger Horror for the first time.
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    And again, just because there is a forditude save in the the stats nobody liked doesn't mean there is one in the actual comic itself.
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    I'm sure there is one, it's just that success or failure is decided by Thunt rather than dice. He might have characters refer to their rolls, but he's not actually rolling dice at his drawing desk to decide what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dienekes View Post
    Huh? What has Biscuit done to deserve life as a crippled slave?
    I'm pretty sure Trinity was talking about Grem, not Biscuit. Which may not have been what Elystan had in mind when it first posted his comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberries View Post
    I'm pretty sure Trinity was talking about Grem, not Biscuit. Which may not have been what Elystan had in mind when it first posted his comment.
    Indeed I was talking about Grem. I love Biscuit and don't want to see him die. However that possibility seems more and more likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t209 View Post
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    Possible, but doubt it. That would be pretty deus-ex if you ask me, like how the falling Dragon head saved V from the death knight during the battle of azure city.
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    Um, how on earth does the blow in panel 7 work? The staff is too long to get below Save's staff and past her hands whilst hitting at that angle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    Possible, but doubt it. That would be pretty deus-ex if you ask me, like how the falling Dragon head saved V from the death knight during the battle of azure city.
    Deus Ex Machina= something comes out of nowhere, with no foreshadowing or anything, to save and/or ruin the day.

    Deus Ex Machina =/= unlikely coincidence.

    As it stands, it's entirely possible for anything currently on that cliff to fall off of it, by virtue of the law of gravity.

    Therefore, neither of those situations would be considered a Deus Ex Machina.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avaris View Post
    Um, how on earth does the blow in panel 7 work? The staff is too long to get below Save's staff and past her hands whilst hitting at that angle...
    She jabbed with it like a spear. That's what straight motion lines usually mean. What you should be complaining about is how she apparently turned a full 180 before doing that; she's leading with her left in the sixth, but with her right in the seventh.
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    If he fell on dove, it would be awesome. Then fox could give him the blood orb and he could get his leg back.

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    So we should cheer on Biscuit for relentlessly slaughtering goblins who are just defending their tribe? Have we missed the entire premise of the comic?

    The reason I don't like Biscuit is because he's incapable of understanding loss, and therefore of the pain he's causing. The stuff Grem's going to have to deal with even if he wins. Overcoming those feelings is one thing, not having them in the first place is quite another.

    As far as Fox vs Duv; I appreciate that Duv is a villain and she's going down at some point, but it would be nice to see her with both wings before then.
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    It would be humor out of no where in a serious scene If Biscuit fell on Dove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpestidae View Post
    She jabbed with it like a spear. That's what straight motion lines usually mean. What you should be complaining about is how she apparently turned a full 180 before doing that; she's leading with her left in the sixth, but with her right in the seventh.
    She changed her grip between panels. Staff fighting involves a lot of quick moves like that.

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    So we should cheer on Biscuit for relentlessly slaughtering goblins who are just defending their tribe? Have we missed the entire premise of the comic?

    The reason I don't like Biscuit is because he's incapable of understanding loss, and therefore of the pain he's causing. The stuff Grem's going to have to deal with even if he wins. Overcoming those feelings is one thing, not having them in the first place is quite another.

    As far as Fox vs Duv; I appreciate that Duv is a villain and she's going down at some point, but it would be nice to see her with both wings before then.
    Two things, one) Biscuit can feel loss, it just doesn't bother him which is different. Two) those vipers are not just defending their tribe, they killed their slaves, betrayed him to a monster that was supposed to kill him too, and then they tried to kill his new friends who saved him from literally 600 years of torment at the hands of demons. He came back to the camp for one reason, to save his new friends like he swore he'd do. The vipers are the bad guys here. Biscuit isn't exactly a hero, but it's pretty selfless to take on an entire society by yourself just to save some people you just met even if they did save you. many people wouldn't risk themselves for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elystan View Post
    So we should cheer on Biscuit for relentlessly slaughtering goblins who are just defending their tribe? Have we missed the entire premise of the comic?
    Kind of like Goblinslayer the Brassmoon guards were "just defending their city."

    For that, you shall DIE!

    Seriously, someone is missing something here, if you're forgetting that

    A) The Vipers attacked Biscuit as soon as he appeared, and continued to do so even after Fox told them he was helping to bring them the Blood Orb.

    B) They only stopped when he convinced Duv that he had no desire to kill them, but certainly could, so she gave him safe passeage.

    C) But didn't really, since they tried to feed him to the switchbeast, along with all the non-goblin slaves whom they had promised their freedom.

    D) So he came back along the only path he could, and they instantly attacked him again.

    So, who's the aggressor and who's the defender here?
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