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    So, I figured it was about time on here for a Twice Blessed thread that wasn't about how much it is a "rip off" of OoTS. Well, today we officially added a third person to our creative team, Miss Joanna Materek, so from now on I will focus on the writing, Gen will focus on the penciling, and Joanna will focus on the coloring and shading. Check it out!

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    Default Re: Twice Blessed: Now with art upgrade.

    Also, on the topic of hiring people in terms of a less long-term position, does anyone know any good website designer to recommend who charges "competitive rates" (ie, affordable.)
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    The first page with the upgraded art looks a bit murky to my eyes, but then, it is set at night with everything lit with candles, so I suppose that's to be expected!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadren View Post
    Also, on the topic of hiring people in terms of a less long-term position, does anyone know any good website designer to recommend who charges "competitive rates" (ie, affordable.)
    How much do you consider to be affordable?
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    Well the artwork is pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    How much do you consider to be affordable?
    A few hundred dollars, maybe more? Can't go into four digits. I've never hired a web designer before, so I don't know at what point I'm being insulting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadren View Post
    A few hundred dollars, maybe more? Can't go into four digits. I've never hired a web designer before, so I don't know at what point I'm being insulting.
    Well, they're usually paid by the hour, so even with a cheap designer you're probably going to go over the $500 mark easily, and are quite likely to be looking at over $1000 by the end. A competent designer will charge more, but also work faster, with the advantage that the end product will look better. All in all, it really depends on how much you want done (your average custom Wordpress theme with ComicPress won't cost you nearly as much as, say, the entire feature suite on a comic like Penny Arcade with a forum and a store and fifty million bells and whistles).

    If you have the time, I would really recommend learning HTML/CSS yourself (you don't really need to know PHP to make Wordpress themes, you just need google-fu, because chances are someone's already figured out your problem). This also makes upkeep easier, because down the line you will almost certainly want to add some of the aforementioned bells and/or whistles and it's a lot easier working with your own code than having to dig through someone else's, even if you do know the language.
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    How many times, when the Fighter says "I draw my sword", did you just want to smack that cheating-optimizer in the face and say "No! You don't draw your sword! You draw Orcus!". When the Cleric says "I run away from Orcus!": "No! You run into Orcus! Rogue tries to hide? He hides behind Orcus! The bard in a tavern on the other side the town tries to order a drink? How about a nice frothy mug of Orcus?
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    Just took the time to check this out, and it's awesome.
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    On that particular strip you posted up there, I like the second and third panels. The girl's mouth in the fourth panel is atrocious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    The first page with the upgraded art looks a bit murky to my eyes, but then, it is set at night with everything lit with candles, so I suppose that's to be expected!
    We actually agree that the page was too murky, which is why I just now uploaded a version that has been lightened up a bit, and we will try to make the shadows not so heavy on future pages.
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    I wonder what's up with Captain Guillen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperordaniel View Post
    I wonder what's up with Captain Guillen.
    Captain Armando Guillen can be very very friendly.
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    Yeah, I'm sure she'll be in complete control of that thing... ...whatever it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperordaniel View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure she'll be in complete control of that thing... ...whatever it is.
    I won't say outright what it is, but I left some pretty strong hints, and by this page you should be able to figure out what that thing is and how Lyrinda knows Pella if you read back over the comic and pay attention to what might seem like unimportant details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadren View Post
    I won't say outright what it is, but I left some pretty strong hints, and by this page you should be able to figure out what that thing is and how Lyrinda knows Pella if you read back over the comic and pay attention to what might seem like unimportant details.
    I now have an excuse to go on an archive binge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    All in all, it really depends on how much you want done (your average custom Wordpress theme with ComicPress won't cost you nearly as much as, say, the entire feature suite on a comic like Penny Arcade with a forum and a store and fifty million bells and whistles).
    This. I'd throw you an offer (my S.O. and I are dabbling in website designing, both amateurs), but I have no idea how much you want done. Only visual design? A forum? Another update system? A new site from scratch? A store? Galleries?

    If you want a simple, static site (aka, with the content it has now, no interactive elements), I have to echo the suggestion to learn HTML yourself. Have one of your artists design the site, then program it yourself. It may look intimidating, but html is very simple once you learn the basics. This is a great ressource - I programmed my own first website with this.


    Oh, and the new artwork looks great! Very fitting for a fantasy story - kudos to your colourist
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    The new colours is lovely, altho I kinda agree with some that it doesn't fit the comedic tone of the comic. The pastel palette and dreamlike feel gives me the impression that it's a romance story. Sharper and more saturated colours would better suit I think. Still, great work so far. :D

    Love Cade's expression in that first panel.
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    That book! D:
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    That book! D:
    Creepy eh?

    We were actually thinking of selling iPad and Kindle covers that look like the book's awakened form.
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    Well, if Pella didn't look suspicious before...she sure does, now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperordaniel View Post
    Well, if Pella didn't look suspicious before...she sure does, now.
    Hence why the guards are firing arrows at her. (And missing because, as everyone knows, few things are harder to hit than a mostly stationary target at close range.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadren View Post
    Hence why the guards are firing arrows at her. (And missing because, as everyone knows, few things are harder to hit than a mostly stationary target at close range.)
    They didn't study at the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy by any chance, did they?
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    I'm not convinced Pella's marksmanship is that great--she was aiming at Cade, yet her arrow managed to pass through a teleport thingy which is clearly some distance above his head; even if it hadn't been there that arrow would have missed.

    By the way, I'm coming to the conclusion that I preferred the much simpler shading that was used in the early strips--I find the new style just makes me think everything is fuzzy and out of focus. This is probably just me being weird, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    I'm not convinced Pella's marksmanship is that great--she was aiming at Cade, yet her arrow managed to pass through a teleport thingy which is clearly some distance above his head; even if it hadn't been there that arrow would have missed.

    By the way, I'm coming to the conclusion that I preferred the much simpler shading that was used in the early strips--I find the new style just makes me think everything is fuzzy and out of focus. This is probably just me being weird, though!
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    *poke* *poke*

    Is this comic still alive, or is it an ex-comic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    *poke* *poke*

    Is this comic still alive, or is it an ex-comic?
    Technical difficulties are currently preventing me from updating the website. I hope to have it resolved soon.
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    I enjoy this comic very much, especially with new colorist that gives it less of a 'Disney' tone. Hope you have it all straightened out soon.

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    Just noticed the couple of new updates that have gone up recently.

    This DOES NOT look good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperordaniel View Post
    Just noticed the couple of new updates that have gone up recently.

    This DOES NOT look good.
    The hells is going on?? Now the author has a concussion in addition to the website malfunctions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stsasser View Post
    The hells is going on?? Now the author has a concussion in addition to the website malfunctions?
    Scroll down - I was referring to actual new comic pages a little further down the page.

    But yeah, concussions are no fun at all, either.
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