Please come and give your opinion

[DogChan]

Hello everyone!

I am here because a few friends are trying to start their own webcomics... one is quite nice, the other one is "ok"... so I want to know your opinion to see if they can fix what ever they are doing wrong.

Thanks!

http://www.pandamancomic.com
http://www.zivilwar.com

[PhantomFox]

Pandaman:
1) Show, don't tell. First off, those character bio boxes are a horrible way to convey backstory and abilities. It is an info dump, and breaks story immersion. It'd be MUCH better to have the important stuff come up naturally in the story through dialogue. Some of the more unnecessary narration boxes fall under this too, especially when they point out things that are obvious. "fight ends here"? C'mon!
2) Memes and references aren't funny when they're thrown in randomly. The Earthbound-style fight was completely unnecessary, and the Over 9000 joke even more so. Oh look, the Ninetails fight from Okami. *yawn*
3) Plotting. The comic seems to run on 'whatever seems cool at the time' instead of anything making sense. For example, The cactus fight was completely unnecessary. It felt like it was put there because the main conflict of the chapter was already solved and a fight was needed to keep things interesting. I get that this is supposed to be a humor comic and not a story driven one, but since he's using a story format, things have to make sense. Some of the story elements that ARE there just are... kinda stupid. And the humor isn't good enough to make up for it.

Zivil War:
Art is much better than the other one. Kinda grainy though. It's a bit too early to make a judgement though, since there are no characters established yet. All I see now is "Zombie Apocalypse is happening". *shrug* That's nice. Why should I care? There's no characters to care about at the moment, and nothing that invests me in the story just yet. A few panels are a bit difficult to make out, such as when the vial breaks. But other than that, I have no issues with this comic, but there's nothing to make me want to come back though at the moment either.

[DogChan]

ok ok, I will tell them! anyone else got anything to add?

It would be an amazing if I could get them some more opinions...

So please, feel free to express all your love and hate.

[ran88dom99]

The first one carries on cuteness and uniqueness and art style for a while but these things are getting old even at 50 pgs. I have seen comics that seem to carry entirely on characters and mood though. Actually no there is usually very good comedy or something else. Unfortunately i don't like the comedy in Pandaman much. At least the references were fun.

2nd comic: what happens if you turn a grade C zombie horror into a webmanga. What i want to see is a grade AAA++ Hollywood action drama turned into a webcomic just to compare to the movie.