Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas

[Lady Serpentine]

I'll vote yes on that rule.

[Count Dingdong]

[CENTER]Official Poll:
Do you think we should include the following rule: "Extenstion: If 3 or more of the alive players call for an extension during a day phase, an additional 24 hours of Day Phase will be granted"? Feel free to PM your answers if you feel it would have an effect on your image within the game.

• Yes
• No

Ends at the start of Day 3! Vote now!

^ My vote. (Y)

[Gnomish Wanderer]

Night 2 End!
Tonight brought with it three surprises.

First, the town felt relieved to have killed the pact maker just hours earlier. Spirits were a bit lighter, the villagers able to drink and smile, as though a small weight had been lifted even as they prepared their homes for the wolves that could be at their door any moment.

Secondly, snow had arrived a bit earlier than expected, fat snowflakes coating the ground. The wise among the village hoped the snow might lead tracks to the wolves, but the smart knew this was a fool's dream and the snow would be sure to bury any benefit its arrival seemed to bring.

And thirdly, three people were found dead.

A few hours earlier, three men were crowded in a tiny hut. They nursed a bottle of orange juice, intent on making it through the night. They were going to figure this out, they were sure of it.

The knocking at the door seemed innocent at first, light, but not a single villager would think even once of opening their doors with werewolves afoot.

"Open up!" cried the voice at the door. The first of the men merely shrugged, loudly yelling "Not a chance!"

"Open up!" came the voice again, more gutteral and angry. The shack creaking and groaning at the knocking, much louder than before. "No way!" said the second.

"Open up!" screamed the voice outside, the shack shaking violently at the thunderous pounding just feet away. And the third of the men merely said, "Never."

And so the knocking stopped.

The men waited forever before breathing freely, wondering what made the beastie outside leave. But as the turned back to the empty bottle, they heard a voice much closer.

"Open up..."

usourselves&we were killed! They were Villagers!
Players

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{table=head]#|Player|Killed|Role
1|Alarra
2|The Grimmace
3|TigerFang|Day 2|Devil
4|Penguinator
5|Grue Bait
6|Gray Mage
7|Atreyu the Masked Llama
8|Zar Peter
9|Elemental
10|usourselves&we|Night 2|Villagers
11|Matthias2207
12|Reinholdt
13|Lex-Kat
14|DiscipleofBob
15|Rogue Nine
16|Eldritch Knight
17|Tom the Mime
18|Count Dingdong
19|Fleeing Coward
20|Dragoon
21|Julian24
22|super dark33
23|inky13112
24|C'nor
25|Rules Lawyer #1|Night 1|Mason
26|52.5 Lemons
27|Murska[/table]

Day 3 Start!
Ends in about 62 hours

Mod Note: Voting concluded. Based on all votes, the extension rule change is NOT going to be put into effect for this game. I'll have no make it an official rule next time or something. *le shrug*
Also, this day is going to run a little longer to get me back on track >.>

[Elemental]

No! They're dead!

[Gray Mage]

Well, let's get this day started, shall we? 52.5 Lemons, in a big part for gut feeling, I admit.

[usourselves&we]

It is so nice when the intended consequences of a post happen on time.
if a replacement is needed we would be happy to be on the list
hope you got something good seer. ghost noise and such *dead*.

[super dark33]

All the three?

Even ourselves?

[Elemental]

That appears to be the case.
The wolves killed all of them.



*does calculations*

Eight for a lynch today... 52.5 Lemons as a place holding vote.

[super dark33]

Lemons are evil! 52.5 Lemons are probably not however.

[Fleeing Coward]

Super dark33 if 52.5 Lemons is probably not evil why are you bandwagoning against him?

[52.5 Lemons]

Let's throw some reasoning into the mix, shall we?

I'm going to throw The Grimmace under the bus and here's why:

1. As I assume most of you know from previous games, Grimmace and I know each other IRL. So, I know his personality and I have to realize that if he were a wolf, his role would be a leader figure. I imagine that his voice would have a high influence on the rest of the wolves and his bidding would be done. That being said, I can't help but notice that Grimmace voted for RL1 the day before he was killed. The only problem with this is Grimmace is smarter than that. Or is he smart enough to know I would assume that? I don't know.

2. Yesterday, his voting was quite suspicious. Go back and look for yourselves. He started off with Eldritch Knight. Perfectly reasonable considering it was mostly random at that point. Then he switched to Reinholdt and left it there amongst all the bandwagoning. I can't imagine that Grimmace didn't know that we needed a number of votes to make the lynch happen so it begs the question, why didn't he switch to one of the bandwagons ever?

Who knows, this could all be silly reasoning, but it's a place to start at least.

[Rogue Nine]

Junior was content in this town, for now. The folken would be appreciative of his abilities as long as they held out. They were even showering him with gifts. Loaves of bread and cups of graf mostly, although some people provided some more... esoteric items. Who really thought that 52.5 Lemons were an appropriate gift of appreciation?

[Tom the Mime]

Couldn't post the previous day given my internet patchy at best for a couple of days. Catching up with stuff now.

Superdark with the third vote on the only target at that stage before anyone presents any thoughts or analysis doesn't seem like a very town thing to do. Bit of a placeholder vote until other people post their thoughts though (and til I read through yesterdays stuff a bit more).

[Zar Peter]

Hmm.... 52.5Lemmons makes an elaborate post and backs up his point with actual thoughts and then comes Rogue Nine and ignores everything. I'm tempted to point at Rouge Nine but for now I will go with the Lemmons against The Grimmace.

Point at The Grimmace

[Matthias2207]

Let's see what Grimmace has to say.

[Elemental]

Hmm... It is difficult to decide either way...

52.5 Lemons has put up arguments to defend himself by pointing out that Grimmace is the more suspicious... I'm really not so certain myself.
But I agree with Matthias, we should wait for The Grimmace to speak.

Edit: We've got fifty-four hours approximately. We've got the time.

[52.5 Lemons]

As a side note, Grimmace probably won't be posting for about 7 hours or so because that is when school will be over for the day here so don't expect anything from him soon.
Also, I was going to point all that out regardless of who was being pointed at. I just want us to base our points on reasoning rather than random gut feeling.

[Elemental]

So, until the approximate forty-seven hour mark?
I can handle that, I'll be asleep anyway.

[Count Dingdong]

As olny one w/ reasoning, point at Grimmace.

52.5 - 4
Grimmace - 4
Superdark - 2

[super dark33]

Couldn't post the previous day given my internet patchy at best for a couple of days. Catching up with stuff now.

Superdark with the third vote on the only target at that stage before anyone presents any thoughts or analysis doesn't seem like a very town thing to do. Bit of a placeholder vote until other people post their thoughts though (and til I read through yesterdays stuff a bit more).

Meh, ALL my actions are wolf like. ALWAYS.
just check past games i particapated in.

[DiscipleofBob]

The Disciple had been against the random lynchings, but he was soon drowned out by the fact that it WAS evil that was exceuted. The dark one's guilt lay in his own dying confession. The mob rule had worked, and would therefore continue unimpeded. Especially since a small group of villagers had just been found murdered that night. The wolves grew bolder each night.

The Disciple remained uncertain that the demonic one was known to the wolves. Perhaps upon promises of clairvoyance and revealing the identity of the wolves, however false those claims might have been, might have drawn the eye of the wolves. They could have strung the rope themselves never knowing of their potential ally.

But all this was just speculation, and after last night he doubted his words would reach the mob. "Bring on the next suspects!" Suspects the inquisitioner called them, but nooses were already being tied around their necks.

The inquisitioner started with a frightened vendor, "You! Why do you cover yourself in the juice of lemons? To mask your wolfen scent?!"

"No! I sell lemons! It's my job!" The vendor pleaded, but the crowd called for his death nontheless.

The second was a much more intimidating man, a mercenary who never smiled, only grimmaced. "And what do you have to say for yourself?" the inquisitioner asked to his face, but received no reply. Only a long, cold stare.

The Disciple wasn't convinced of either of their guilt, but what could he do?

Meh, ALL my actions are wolf like. ALWAYS.
just check past games i particapated in.

"Heh, of course I seem like a werewolf. I'm just that bad of a dude," A man in dark robes casually bragged to one of the barmaids, "Why don't you come to my place later and I'll show you just what big teeth I have." His robes were dark, super dark even. For someone who could be next on the chopping block or the next to be mauled in the night, he seemed remarkably calm, as if he didn't fear one or either.

[Lex-Kat]

I'll go with Elemental for the reasoning that TigerFang wanted to use him in his defense, and Elemental apologized for not acknowledging the PM.

Also, he's the second in the bandwagon against 52.5 Lemons, without any reasoning aside from needing 8 votes to lynch.

[Rogue Nine]

Let's throw some reasoning into the mix, shall we?

I'm going to throw The Grimmace under the bus and here's why:

1. As I assume most of you know from previous games, Grimmace and I know each other IRL. So, I know his personality and I have to realize that if he were a wolf, his role would be a leader figure. I imagine that his voice would have a high influence on the rest of the wolves and his bidding would be done. That being said, I can't help but notice that Grimmace voted for RL1 the day before he was killed. The only problem with this is Grimmace is smarter than that. Or is he smart enough to know I would assume that? I don't know.

2. Yesterday, his voting was quite suspicious. Go back and look for yourselves. He started off with Eldritch Knight. Perfectly reasonable considering it was mostly random at that point. Then he switched to Reinholdt and left it there amongst all the bandwagoning. I can't imagine that Grimmace didn't know that we needed a number of votes to make the lynch happen so it begs the question, why didn't he switch to one of the bandwagons ever?

Who knows, this could all be silly reasoning, but it's a place to start at least.

Hmm.... 52.5Lemmons makes an elaborate post and backs up his point with actual thoughts and then comes Rogue Nine and ignores everything. I'm tempted to point at Rouge Nine but for now I will go with the Lemmons against The Grimmace.

Point at The Grimmace

While his "arguement" for Grimmace is... somewhat sound*, he did not assuage any of the suspicions towards himself. He was the first and ONLY person to vote for Elemental (who was probabistically speaking the wolf's lynch target). Elemental was "fairly high on [his] radar right now" but he had no backing data. Then he switched to Tiger Fang to avoid a no-lynch. Then when TF claimed seer, he switched off to the "safer" Gray Mage, who is currently an unknown. I have seen times when both targets were wolves, but that is super-rare, at least on day 2.

*Except no, it really isn't. Last time he used the "I know Grimmace in real life" that I can remember, it was because Grimm accidentally let known that he was a wolf when Lemons wasn't. There has been no proof that I can remember, either as a wolf or not, that Grimmace likes to "play leader" as Lemons says. Also, even if he does, then NK'ing his vote target would be a mistake, because it would lead to the sloppy reasoning that Lemon's himself provided as a reason against.

What is more plausible? That Grimmace lead the wolves into killing the person he voted for on day one so that Lemons would think there was no way he would do what he just did and therefore cannot be a wolf, or that NOT happening?

[Lex-Kat]

I'll go with Elemental for the reasoning that TigerFang wanted to use him in his defense, and Elemental apologized for not acknowledging the PM.

Also, he's the second in the bandwagon against 52.5 Lemons, without any reasoning aside from needing 8 votes to lynch.

[Julian84]

Superdark33 for the superdark horse bandwagon

[Murska]

While his "arguement" for Grimmace is... somewhat sound*, he did not assuage any of the suspicions towards himself. He was the first and ONLY person to vote for Elemental (who was probabistically speaking the wolf's lynch target). Elemental was "fairly high on [his] radar right now" but he had no backing data. Then he switched to Tiger Fang to avoid a no-lynch. Then when TF claimed seer, he switched off to the "safer" Gray Mage, who is currently an unknown. I have seen times when both targets were wolves, but that is super-rare, at least on day 2.

As someone who switched off TF when he claimed Seer, I have to note that that is Town behaviour, not Wolf, even if the outcome was the opposite. Assuming the wolves didn't know the Devil at that point, it's the Wolves who'd want a claimed Seer to be lynched and the Villagers who'd want him to live at least one more day so he can be tested. Him being the Devil was the only possible situation where it'd cause Town outright harm to have him live longer, and despite that being the case, it was rather unlikely.

superdark to get a third wagon up to speed and hopefully give people options, unlike yesterday, to force some more reasoning out there.

[Count Dingdong]

Update:

superdark - 5
Grimmace - 4
52.5 Lemons - 4
Elemental - 2

15 votes -> 5 votes to linch

Note - 3 bandwagons is ideal b/c majority auto. has >= 1/3 votes made that day. Extra thron away votes hurt. And 3 gives more options.

What are cases on each? Think 52.5 is gut feeling initialy backed up by Rouge 9's argument. And 52.5 retalieted early on against Grimmace based on rl knowlege. And general dislike for superdarks wolf philosophy. Elemental just b/c of early on bandwagon?

[inky13112]

Couldn't post the previous day given my internet patchy at best for a couple of days. Catching up with stuff now.

Superdark with the third vote on the only target at that stage before anyone presents any thoughts or analysis doesn't seem like a very town thing to do. Bit of a placeholder vote until other people post their thoughts though (and til I read through yesterdays stuff a bit more).

I'm gonna point out here that super dark was not the third vote for tiger fang, he actually edited his post from reinholdt to tiger fang after the bandwagon got kicked off by the gray mage (3rd) and elemental (4th, switched from lemons) posts.

Edit to band wagon seems wolfy to me though, so super dark.

[Penguinator]

I haven't been here, but it looks like Grimmace has some logic against him.

Defend yourself, villain!

[super dark33]

Meh.
Superdark's wolf philosophy:

You are ALWAYS a wolf,
even if you are a villager.