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2012-08-23, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Just wanting to get this said, but switching off from a claiming seer isn't much of a town only behaviour, wolves would also switch, as being of the guys that lynched the seer is a quick ticket to being lynched themselves. All in all, if the wolves didn't know about TF, I'd say that the ones that look the most like wolves would be those that quietly stayed voting for TF, ato not draw attention and have the good excuse of not seeing the claim before day ended.
@52.5's logic: Now, on this I have to agree with Rogue, it's a bit lacking. Point nš1 is more or less "he voted on RL, plus he's bossy/imposing so the other wolves would follow him". That doesn't look very solid, but luckly for us, we can have a second opinion of Grimmace. If I'm not mistaken, Grue Bait also know both of you, right (or am I misremembering)?
The second post is also lacking. Grimmace's first vote was at a moment no one was caring about the 1/3, while on his second vote TF already had 1/3+ votes on him. Plus, it's not like he was the only one not voting on bandwagons on either circumstance. Singling him out for those reasons sounds off to me.
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2012-08-23, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2007
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- Whose eye is that eye?
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Yeah, I would personally look at people who voted for TigerFang early and then didn't post later on. They're either inactive villagers or wolves. But I can see the problem in Grimmace's actions: He voted, then switched the vote so he clearly was paying attention to the debate, but he didn't switch to the TF counterwagon to save the Seer. Obviously switching onto the TF wagon after the Seer claim would be about the most wolfy thing ever, and no wolf would risk it, but not switching to the counterwagon is a safe way of making it more likely the Seer is lynched anyway.
Or he could've just been offline during that time. *shrug*
I'm voting for superdark mainly because his attitude annoys me - the defense 'I always act like a wolf, regardless of whether I am one' is a very poor defense.
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2012-08-23, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
While I think this is a better argument then 52.5 made, the same point could be said from Grue Bait and Lex-Kat. The three voted off wagon "around" the same time (from Grimm's to Lex's and GB's posts there were about 4 hours of difference, hence the "around") and the three were made hours before TF claimed. Heck, Grimm's vote was 7 hours before TF claimed, so way before the debate began.
By the way, does anyone know yesterday's final vote count?
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2012-08-23, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2007
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- Whose eye is that eye?
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2012-08-23, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)Count DingdongGuest in the Playground
Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Twas:
Tigerfang - 10 (w/ supers change from Reinholdt)
Gray Mage - 8
Grue Bait, 52.5, Rienholdt, Atreyu, Grimace - 1 each
And looking over that... superdark's change vot instead of crosing out is strange. Some reason he doesn't want tie to Reinholt?
Current day:
Superdark - 7
52.5 lemons - 4
Grimmace - 4
Elemetal - 2
17 -> 6 to lynch
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2012-08-23, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2006
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- Canada
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
I vote Gray Mage
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2012-08-23, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2007
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Well, at least now you gave some reasons. I don't know how Lemmons came to his point but at least he reflected about it and explained why he did so. Then you came with the next post and pointed at the person above you without any comment (except RP). Now that you explained I'm sufficiently satisfied and will not point at you in the next hours (except the seer's proxy stands up and says that you are a wolf)
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2012-08-23, 04:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
I know my reasoning wasn't very sound logically but I wanted to get some debate going rather than just a random bandwagon. Although I think Grue Bait could attest to Grimmace taking a leadership role, especially if he was on a team with mostly new players. I'm not saying he's the best target, I'm just putting those facts out there. Yes I could say similar stuff about other players, but as I know Grimm personally, he sticks out in my mind as a target.
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2012-08-23, 05:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2008
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Well I was going to vote elemental, but then I looked back and it was Julian84 I was thinking of, splitting up all the logic. Stupid look-alike avatars.
Not convinced on superdark. Think I'll go 52.5 lemons.
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2012-08-23, 07:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2006
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2012-08-23, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2008
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- In hiding. Always hiding.
Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Are you suggesting if one's innocent, so is the other?
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2012-08-23, 07:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2004
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2012-08-23, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
I think he was merely pointing out the fact that the reason against me is gut feeling, so why would you vote me over someone that has some reasoning?
EDIT: I also can't help but notice that Grimmace hasn't posted on here at all and his personal profile page says he was one about 4 hours ago (estimating).
RE-EDIT: Apparently it is due to a large amount of homework being a priority.Last edited by 52.5 Lemons; 2012-08-23 at 08:57 PM.
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2012-08-23, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2008
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- In hiding. Always hiding.
Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Your posts have you defending yourself heavily with some quasi-logic.
I chose you because to me you've been acting more suspicious and shifty than superdark.
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2012-08-23, 09:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
My first post today wasn't defending myself. A random bandwagon right off the bat isn't a threat to anybody. I was voting and providing my reasoning. It wasnt intended to be a defense but rather a vote that wasn't random.
Last edited by 52.5 Lemons; 2012-08-23 at 09:33 PM.
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2012-08-23, 09:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2008
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
3 votes against you.
You immediately declare that they all lacked reasoning and were random.
Then provide an attack on someone else to shift the wagons their way.
Even now you defend yourself.
I'm going to be straight with you. Short of day one, even when I make a short quiet post, there's almost always reason behind it. It is not random. Anyone can agree with it or disagree with it by pointing in red at the person they find most suspicious, but people who call me out for making a post and declaring random, particularly when they get defensive about it make me extremely extra suspicious. I'm more convinced now than when I pointed that you're the right choice.
So no. No gut feeling. No random. I made a distinct choice to pick you.Last edited by Reinholdt; 2012-08-23 at 09:44 PM.
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2012-08-23, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Sep 2011
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- An Abyssal Tower
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Firstly, I was apologising for not being online to respond to an urgent PM.
Nothing to do with the game.
And secondly, that's a place holding vote until I make up my mind. I can remove it if it's bugging you.
Edit:
{table=head]Player|# votes
52.5 Lemons|5
super dark33|7
The Grimmace|4
Elemental|1
Gray Mage|1[/table]
Hmm... Eight votes required for a lynch, forty-one hours left to decide.
Note to self: Remember to convert values from alphabetical to numerical...Last edited by Elemental; 2012-08-23 at 11:06 PM.
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2012-08-23, 10:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
There are so many things wrong with this. First, the 3 votes against me were based off 1. Gut feeling, 2. To start a bandwagon to reach the required vote number, also a place holder, and 3. Because I'm not evil (whatever that means). So if you don't call those mostly random, what do you call them?
Second, I did not immediately declare that they lacked reasoning and were random. The first thing I said was "Let's throw some reasoning into the mix, shall we?". I said that because there hadn't been a logical argument yet. Yes I pointed at Grimmace in the post but that was because I had no other leads. I'd rather vote based on slight reasoning than randomness. And I would hardly call 3 votes with no discussion or real reasoning a bandwagon. Mostly they were just placeholder votes.
Third, yes I'm slightly defending myself, but not from those first three votes against me. Those mean practically nothing. I'm defending myself against you and the conclusions you have jumped to. Defense is neither a wolf thing to do or a town thing to do. A villager who gives their self up is in no way helping the town. The wolves win off of villagers dying, yes? So the more villagers the town looses, the greater the advantage for the wolves. In either case, the person being voted for should defend themselves because it helps their team. Assuming that less defense is more likely a villager is wrong because it is just as important for a villager that they stay in the game as it is a wolf. You shouldn't base suspicion off of how much they are defending themselves.
So Reinholdt, your initial reasoning was because the reasoning for SuperDark didn't have you convinced. Could you elaborate?
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2012-08-23, 11:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
I'm going to vote for Lex-Kat, since her posts are reminding me of what she did when we were wolves in Dragonspire II.
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2012-08-24, 03:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-24, 05:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Last edited by Reinholdt; 2012-08-24 at 05:41 AM.
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2012-08-24, 07:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
There's a whole lot of debating going on here.
I don't think that Lemons is a wolf and I still want to hear more from Grimmace.
Looks like we could kill super dark today. There's always a chance he's a wolf, especially since he has this 'act like a wolf, whatever your role is' cover.
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2012-08-24, 10:21 PM (ISO 8601)Count DingdongGuest in the Playground
Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Last edited by Count Dingdong; 2012-08-24 at 10:23 PM.
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2012-08-24, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
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2012-08-24, 10:32 PM (ISO 8601)Count DingdongGuest in the Playground
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2012-08-24, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Did I miscount?
I'll go check that and make a new table.
Also, I say eight because if everyone votes, then eight is the required number, so if we can get to eight, then we've decided.
Yep. I miscounted because I can't count and I'm blind.
{table=head]Player|# votes
52.5 Lemons|5
super dark33|9
The Grimmace|2
Elemental|1
Gray Mage|1
Reinholdt|1
Lex-Kat|1[/table]
About sixteen hours or so left in the day.Last edited by Elemental; 2012-08-24 at 11:33 PM.
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2012-08-25, 12:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Well, through me with the super_dark33
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2012-08-25, 08:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Fine then!
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2012-08-25, 03:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
Day 3 End!super dark33 was lynched! He was a Villager!
The town had gathered in the tavern, holding a whole barrel of lemons in shackles. "I sensed something dangerous here, some kind of fruit. It was the cursed lemons! They must be a werewolf!" Gray Mage said, pointing at the insidious fruit.
Super Dark grinned from behind the bar as the town gathered around the lemons, knives menacingly sharp. Without Lemons, his orange juice would flourish! 'This is a win win', he thought as he pulled on his fur coat and joined the crowd.
But Fleeing Chicken, who just didn't manage to flee as the pass was snowed over, glanced suspiciously at SuperDark. "That's an interesting coat you have there."
"It's wolf fur, I always wear a wolf fur coat."
"THERE, HE ADMITTED IT, GET HIM!" The crowd turned on Superdark, quickly tying his arms and legs as he struggled and screamed, "NO! You don't understand! You can't leave the oranges alone for more than a few minutes! Untie me!"
The town just snickered and threw him behind the bar as they left to get more rope. His wolf tricks wouldn't work on them now.
Alone in the bar, Superdark edged towards the oranges as they began to buzz ever so slightly. It was too late. The last thought through his mind was that of regret: 'Why did I invent an unstable combustible orange?'
BOOM!
PlayersSpoiler{table=head]#|Player|Killed|Role
1|Alarra
2|The Grimmace
3|TigerFang|Day 2|Devil
4|Penguinator
5|Grue Bait
6|Gray Mage
7|Atreyu the Masked Llama
8|Zar Peter
9|Elemental
10|usourselves&we|Night 2|Villager
11|Matthias2207
12|Reinholdt
13|Lex-Kat
14|DiscipleofBob
15|Rogue Nine
16|Eldritch Knight
17|Tom the Mime
18|Count Dingdong
19|Fleeing Coward
20|Dragoon
21|Julian24
22|super dark33|Day 3|Villager
23|inky13112
24|C'nor
25|Rules Lawyer #1|Night 1|Mason
26|52.5 Lemons
27|Murska[/table]Night 3 Start!
Ends in about 24 hours
Official Poll:
How much wood would a werewolf wolf if a werewolf would wolf wood?- Yes
- No
Ends at the start of Day 4! Vote now!Last edited by Gnomish Wanderer; 2012-08-25 at 08:29 PM.
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2012-08-25, 08:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Aug 2009
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Re: Classic Werewolf: The Village of Vilcas
The answer is yes, obviously. Of course, you were expecting me to say that, so the answer is no. Which is what I would have said were I not an intelligent man. Since I am an intelligent man, and you are not an intelligent man, the answer is yes. But, you are an intelligent woman, which means the answer is no. But, the answer to a question a woman asks is almost never no, which means that the answer is yes. But, the question in itself is a trick, so the answer must be no, and you're just testing me. But, you would have expected that I would expect it was a trick, and the answer is yes. But, I can obviously not take the glass in front of me, so the answer is Both.