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    The Queens are Sidhe.
    Lilly was a Changeling, let's assume she had a Sidhe parent. She recieves the Mantle, and either chooses, or is forced to Choose, her Faerie aspect. She becomes a Sidhe and is now the Summer Lady just as Aurora was before her. Lily was NOT BORN a Sidhe, but she always had the ability to BECOME one by Choosing. We don't know if The Mantle turned Lily into a Sidhe. We know that she COULD have become a Sidhe by Choosing, and that she was a Sidhe after getting the Mantle.
    Actually... Lily could have become a Nixie not a Sidhe.

    Specifically part of Winter. That was sorta the reason behind that group's "relationship" to Lloyd Slate, until his opposite number put his foot down and shielded them.

    So the Lady's Mantle is metaphysically strong enough to override (or at least suppress) the base fae creature once, and the Court alignment twice. Nor is overwriting humanity unknown in the Dresdenverse, with two types of vampires at least doing it so its not a fundamental rule. On balance I'd say Molly is no longer human, but the possibility remains open... also I'd imagine retaining her humanity would limit her powers as Winter Lady pretty sharply.

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    I thought she said "Mortal", which could be Changeling.

    Although if she said Human then I guess that is proof that the Mantle transforms you. I hope Molly was not especially fond of iron things.
    I checked and she said "mortal" so its ambiguous.

    Might be possible to discern whether that includes Changelings with a fairy talking with a more through analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soras Teva Gee View Post
    Actually... Lily could have become a Nixie not a Sidhe.

    Specifically part of Winter. That was sorta the reason behind that group's "relationship" to Lloyd Slate, until his opposite number put his foot down and shielded them.

    So the Lady's Mantle is metaphysically strong enough to override (or at least suppress) the base fae creature once, and the Court alignment twice. Nor is overwriting humanity unknown in the Dresdenverse, with two types of vampires at least doing it so its not a fundamental rule. On balance I'd say Molly is no longer human, but the possibility remains open... also I'd imagine retaining her humanity would limit her powers as Winter Lady pretty sharply.
    If I had to guess, I would say that the transformation is not instant, and the more she uses the Mantle's power, the more she transforms, both physically and mentally.
    That or the physicial transformation is instant (Sidhe seem to be more or less Human anatomically speaking), but the mental transformation is not.

    Also, we need a new thread.

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    Dresden Files:A Drug Dealer to Tiny Faeries.
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    Dresden Files:A Drug Dealer to Tiny Faeries.
    I think 'Dresden Files II: Dealing Drugs To Tiny Faeries' flows better, but either way this is my vote.

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    I think 'Dresden Files II: Dealing Drugs To Tiny Faeries' flows better, but either way this is my vote.
    Dresden Files: Faeries Drug Dealer?


    I want to know something; they keep saying that Lea is second only to Mab in term of power at the Winter court..

    Does it mean Lea could take on Maeve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    I think 'Dresden Files II: Dealing Drugs To Tiny Faeries' flows better, but either way this is my vote.
    Agreed.

    Also, I don't think Dresdenverse Power is a strict Heirarchy of "Person X could beat Being Y". If it was, Harry would have been smashed into pieces long ago.
    Lea could probably give Maeve a run for her money, but unless it was halloween, Maeve would be immortal. Plus there are probably all sorts of rules about what Faeries can do what to whom.
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    I checked and she said "mortal" so its ambiguous.

    Might be possible to discern whether that includes Changelings with a fairy talking with a more through analysis.
    Well, i remember in that regard that Mab considered Thomas mortal enough for her cause, at least mortal enough to pick up the mantle of knight.

    So i suspect changelings would also belong to that folder.
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    can I know what are the ship battles in this fanbase?

    Harry/Karrin is obvious. Harry/Elaine too, maybe? It's more than likely that there is a number of Harry/Molly shippers as well?

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    Don't forget the Harry/Thomas. You know they're lurking out there somewhere.

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