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2012-11-04, 10:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dresden Files: Winter is coming
I believe his point is that the Law makes the distinction between mind-controlling another human and binding non-humans with circles and such (in D&D terms, dominate person and suggestion are bad, geas and planar binding are fine), so he's saying "You know that only mind-controlling other humans breaks the Fourth Law, but even if the Law did apply to faeries, what I did wasn't mind control so it wouldn't matter anyway."
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2012-11-05, 05:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-06, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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So, chapter 2 is up now
SpoilerAny guesses as to whose birthday party it is?
It's possible that it could be Harry's, though that would mean it took approximately eight weeks to start remembering who he was after he initially came out of his coma. So the time frame feels a little wrong on that.
It would, however, account for Cat Sith's comment about how Harry "Cannot possibly be that stupid."
Celebrating birthdays strikes me as a very mortal thing to do. I don't think it would have the same meaning for one of the major fae.Last edited by Aidan305; 2012-11-06 at 05:22 PM.
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2012-11-06, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh look, it's Cat Sėth.
That's... actually very cool.
My cat is called Cat Sėth.Awesome fremetar by wxdruid.
From the discomfort of truth there is only one refuge and that is ignorance. I do not need to be comfortable, and I will not take refuge. I demand to *know*.
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2012-11-06, 10:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dresden Files: Winter is coming
Got a link to that chapter? I can't find it on Butcher's site.
Edit: Wait, now I hvae it. It's not on the page of Cold Days, just on the main page.
Cat Sith is surprisingly helpful, for a Winter. Oh, he's casually threatening, and he refuses to follow the spirit of a command, but he's actually giving Dresden advice, voluntarily.Last edited by Eldan; 2012-11-06 at 10:09 AM.
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2012-11-06, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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On whose birthday it is:
SpoilerIt's his own birthday. the other birthdays he wouldn't know without really forshadowing and the remark form Cat Sith is indicating that harry woudl be stupid. And no one would be stupid enough to ferget one's own birthday (except for harry who never really got round to celebrating it under justin and continued the tradition afterwards). Besides, he's the only mortal elft and the question is if you still celebrate your birthday when you are immortal (aka when age doesn't matter anyway or when you are too old to remember your age anyway).Warlock Poetry?
Or ways to use me in game?
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2012-11-06, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dresden Files: Winter is coming
Wait, wasn't this second chapter in the paperback version of Ghost Story? Because I swear I've read this before.
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2012-11-06, 10:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-06, 10:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-06, 10:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-06, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerOriginally Posted by Cat Sith
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2012-11-06, 03:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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I like to think that the binding of creatures of Faeries in the like through Names is, technically, a violation of the law against binding, but the spirit of the law was to prevent the binding of humans. It's enough for an overzealous zealot of a Warden to get you in trouble for, but otherwise it's hardly enforced, and if you don't establish any control, that Warden would have even less ground to stand on.
The name is "tonberrian", even when it begins a sentence. It's magic, I ain't gotta 'splain why.
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2012-11-06, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ok, so when you post about a chapter being up could you please link to it? The chapter is nowhere on Jim's website that I can find.
I've read the first two though, so it's all good.
SpoilerThank God Jim said no more surprise children. If it were Mab's child's birthday I would be very sad.
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2012-11-07, 03:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Warlock Poetry?
Or ways to use me in game?
Better grab a drink...
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2012-11-07, 05:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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When you type in www.jim-butcher.com it's the first thing you see on the page. As such, I have to think that your search may have been rather less comprehensive than you claim.
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2012-11-07, 02:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Just got around to rereading Chapter Two from Jim's website (I have the Ghost Story paperback already, but didn't want to look for it) and am curious about something.
SpoilerMab apparently sent Harry's mothers silver pentacle to a jeweler to have the ruby he got in Changes properly set into the thing, rather than just letting it be there with the hot glue. Do you think they were able to undo the damage to the pentacle itself from dealing with the loup-garou? Seems like that sort of thing would take nothing less than a faerie craftsman to take care of. It's also entirely probable I'm thinking too much about this.
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2012-11-07, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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A little off topic here: how come I never see you guys on the DF forums? Do you go by different screen names?
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2012-11-07, 04:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Not on there. The only other forum I post at is Spoony Experiment.
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2012-11-07, 08:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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I've posted on the DF forum once or twice, but why would we want to go there when we have a perfectly serviceable Dresden Files thread right here? Mostly I hang out around Roosterteeth, but there's a couple of threads like this one and the GG thread that make coming to GitP very worthwhile.
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2012-11-07, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm on the forums as Mauve Shirt, but I don't go over there that often. When I do I hang out in the DF Spoilers subforum, where all of the most interesting threads are thousands of pages long and I can't contribute anything.
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2012-11-07, 11:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am very excited for this. I've loved all the Dresden Files and the potential for Harry is simply enormous.
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2012-11-12, 06:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Ok, so new question, is there any character that Harry knows that you think might secretly be part of the black council? Maybe all the crap that's gone wrong in Harry's life has made me paranoid for him, but there are several people I'm suspicious of.
I like Harry/Elaine as a couple. There's something about first love, it would be nice to see it win. On the other hand, I don't trust her. She was deep in that Aurora thing, and we know the summer lady was probably being manipulated by the black council. She's always lying to and tricking Harry when they meet up, and the last time she stopped the Skavis but got injured too much to be on hand to take on the black council agents (Vitto and Madrigal).
I've got the same suspicions of Ramirez. He's so powerful and so young and so much on Harry's side, but we know so little about him. He could easily be a traitor. Of course, if he was he could have knifed Harry in the back when they were riding that T-Rex and let Cowl win, but still.
Maybe the most wild of all, I've always been a little bit suspicious of Ebenezar. What if being the Blackstaff and going against the laws of magic really has corrupted him (even though there seem to be things in place to prevent that). Him being part of the black council would put a whole new spin on all the things he's done. Even creating the grey council. It could be a way of bringing together all the black council's most savvy enemies into one place. Then they could take them on or just reveal their existence to the white council, which, as Harry says at the end of Turn Coat, would make everyone think they were the black council and probably get them executed.
That's just a few. There's been times I've even thought that maybe Murphy, but no, that's probably too far. Harry is the only one who really knew from way back how capable Murphy was.
Anyway, paranoid? Maybe, but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face.If you're a Brandon Sanderson fan (or you want to start being one), check out The Sanderlanche podcast!
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2012-11-12, 06:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Personally, I don't trust the Gatekeeper. Now, I don't think he'll actually be on the Black Council. He seems to be set up as a mysterious mentor figure for Harry.
My question is this. He seems to be connected to several of the laws of Magic. The Outer Gates - he's the Gatekeeper. There are some indications he has something to do with time travel or prophecy as well. The Outer Gates seem to have been breached, if someone's summoning outsiders. Why is no one the least bit suspicious about the Gatekeeper?Resident Vancian Apologist
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2012-11-12, 08:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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I've heard the theory about Eb. I'm not sure what to think of it. I mean, we know his daughter was black council, and we know he seriously didn't like it.
Elaine I suspect is still on the side of the summer faeries. Since Titania is probably on the black council, Elaine could end up on the black council. She's also Outsiderbane, and if they can't have Harry they'd probably be happy to have Elaine.
Carlos? I doubt it. Too young, too anti-black-magic, too many chances to kill Harry and never did so. He didn't help Cowl when he attacked in White Night either.
Murphy is WAY far-fetched.
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2012-11-12, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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If Cowl is on the Black Council. I sort of doubt it.
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2012-11-12, 10:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, the black council is nothign more then supposed bad guys in an organised setting. The kemmler students do seem to fit that description. Now if they are part of the black council, or are the black council remains to be seen. for now I think it's interesting to see what happens.
On the note of (prominent) councilmembers belonging to the black council: I don't suspect Injun Joe, Ebenezer and the Gatekeeper. The rest is as suspect as anything IMO. I mean, if you can't trust the bureacrats naymore, the world really has gone to hell and even the grandmeister can be corrupted. (I'm lookign at you merlin who still after all this time doesn't trust Harry)Warlock Poetry?
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2012-11-12, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think the Merlin is fine, more or less. Because Butcher does good twists, and the Merlin would be too obvious.
About the Kemmlerites and the Black Council: some of them are in it, if there is one, I agree. But they were fighting each other, and some were a lot, well, nicer than others. So, I think Cowl is okay. Unless I'm misremembering which one cowl was.Resident Vancian Apologist
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2012-11-12, 01:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Of the Senior Council I'm most suspicious of Injun Joe. We only have "Ebenezar trusts him" as really vouching for him and a great reason for going off the well-intentioned-extremist end of the pool. Though we have no good reason to clear Martha Liberty or Ancient Mai. LaFortier is busy being dead with Simon RussianName. Cristos and Langtry go under "stupid is everywhere, everyday" though we really can't clear Cristos. The Gatekeeper is clearly the only guy with a brain and the only one on the Council playing the Real Game we're only starting to learn about.
However I think at this point I'd say Peabody strongly speaks against suspecting the Senior Council. You don't have the butler do it for there to still be the master under suspicion.
Also pretty evidently Grevane and Corpsetaker were not Black Council but very possibly had dealings with it. Just asJustinCowl clearly is, also demonstrating the real name is the Circle.
I still kinda get the feeling Elaine is up to something, but only because she seems to be in some tragic heroine niche. Or just the Catwoman to Harry's Batman.
And unless Lara is playing both sides we've nobody else to be suspecting. I'm reasonably sure she will end up on the "good guys" probably by being the only one to successfully play the Black Council for some crucial info.
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2012-11-12, 01:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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I agree about Lara. Like Marcone Lara doesn't work for anyone but herself. Besides which, the black council (the circle) tried to decapitate the white court back in White Night. Cowl had Vitto and the super goblins (and a freaking Outsider) move to take them all out in one stroke. No reason to do that if the Circle was already secretly controlling the white court through Lara. That, of course, will make Lara and Marcone (and maybe even Nicodemus?) perfect allies for Harry if/when he has to move against the black council. They all have an interest in taking them out, and they're all too stubborn/full of themselves to be working for the secret group.
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2012-11-12, 01:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'd be... disappointed... if Nicodemus ended up an actual ally. It would positively ruin his most repugnant douchery. I mean maybe do a quick "favor" or something that nominally counts as helping, but not in the end showing up for the side of Harry. Killed off before would be a good resolution perhaps.
Lara and Marcone are totally going to end winner by hitching themselves to the real winning side. I more then half expected Marcone to be a member of the Grey Council.