Serpentine's Secretly Sapphic Salacious Sacrarium of Random Banter #180

[Form]

Fine. Young lady.
(Though young woman is an accurate and consistently used piece of terminology for females from 13-20, so I would argue your definition.)

Argh, nitpicking!

The point is the (presumably fairly large) age difference and the contrast between a kid and an adult is all.

[wadledo]

Well, for starters, 14 is a little girl, a freshman in high school, maybe, not a young woman.

Argh, nitpicking!

The point is the (presumably fairly large) age difference and the contrast between a kid and an adult is all.

This is why I explained how I wasn't seriously flirting with her: I.e. "Lightly" and "Jokingly."
Since, you know. I was doing so with her parents right there.

What do you think flirting means, anyway?

Edit: Also, linguistically, 13 and older is a young man or woman in english.

[AtlanteanTroll]

This is why I explained how I wasn't seriously flirting with her: I.e. "Lightly" and "Jokingly."
Since, you know. I was doing so with her parents right there.

Yeah ... That doesn't help too much. That might almost be creepier because one couldn't tell if you were being serious or not. It's creepy for an 18 year old to flirt with a 14 year old.

Edit: Also, linguistically, 13 and older is a young man or woman in english.

As Form said, nitpicking.

[wadledo]

Yeah ... That doesn't help too much. That might almost be creepier because one couldn't tell if you were being serious or not. It's creepy for an 18 year old to flirt with a 14 year old.

When you go to a restaurant, the waiter doesn't mildly flirt with you?
Because that's one of the best ways to get tips, especially if you are open and honest about it.

As Form said, nitpicking.

I'm just nitpicking in response to what I see as nitpicking from you.

[Dimonite]

It might sound creepy, but I'm sure it wasn't. Because, you know, he got a large tip from the people who would be calling the police if he was being creepy.

[AtlanteanTroll]

When you go to a restaurant, the waiter doesn't mildly flirt with you?
Because that's one of the best ways to get tips, especially if you are open and honest about it.

Going out to sit down restaurants would imply I have money. Silly, I save that for fun stuff. And whenever I do I seem to get male waiting staff. Hmm...

I'm just nitpicking in response to what I see as nitpicking from you.

*rolls eyes* You called a girl who isn't even the age of consent a woman. Something's a little off with that.

It might sound creepy, but I'm sure it wasn't. Because, you know, he got a large tip from the people who would be calling the police if he was being creepy.

It's hard to tell. Probbaly.

[Saithis Bladewing]

Going out to sit down restaurants would imply I have money. Silly, I save that for fun stuff. And whenever I do I seem to get male waiting staff. Hmm...


*rolls eyes* You called a girl who isn't even the age of consent a woman. Something's a little off with that.



It's hard to tell. Probbaly.

I've witnessed plenty of gentle flirting in my life that wasn't at all creepy because it was obvious there was no real intent. In one case it's even proven positive because it built the self-esteem of a young teen who clearly had none.

I don't agree that referring to a young woman as a woman is particularly off, but there is definitely a fine line you're treading, there...

[LaZodiac]

It's times like these, you need to take advice from the Pet Shop Boys.

Be broken as all hell?*

Random Wilderness exploration? Just you, a tent, a swiss knife and animals to attack, mangle, cook and eat.

Go North! Greenland!

Or keep going south and you'll eventually reach the Amazons where wonderful boat tours await and you can see live community and video game like jungle ruins which are fully explorable because no one even bothers to pay for security for them. Also, amazing river side sunsets and log cabins with electricity.

Fairly certain that's illegal without a permit and also stupid since I routinely trip over my own feet. Adventuring out into the Canadian Shield would literally be suicide.

I said east because I was under the impression that everyone I know is east or south of me.

Good gods, y'all. Just stay loose, have fun, talk to EVERYBODY. It's hard at first, but just put yourself out there, you'll make lots of friends.

See, I'd do that, but it's kind of weird for someone to just approach you on a street. I don't want to be rude after all! I do know the general location of the library, so I could try that, but again I just...think it's rude to just randomly talk to people

You should be a canadian pirate.

I can't decide if that is just trippy, or some weird soviet propaganda.

Interesting.

*no one will get this reference

[AtlanteanTroll]

For the person being flirted with or the person who started the flirting?

[wadledo]

*rolls eyes* You called a girl who isn't even the age of consent a woman. Something's a little off with that.

Since I call everyone female young lady, I don't think you have much of an argument there.

It's hard to tell. Probbaly.

I work as a waiter in a restaurant. You are arguing that because I used the words flirting in conjunction with 14 year old, I'm creepy, even though this is what people pay me to do (as well as bring them their food).
If I didn't interact with customers, flirting with women and chatting up the guys, I wouldn't make any money.
I also have absolutely no intent of going further than flirting. As a waiter I can only go so far, and no farther. I've had women give me there numbers, which I inevitably just give to the guys in the kitchen, since they don't get these sorts of chances.

[AtlanteanTroll]

Since I call everyone female young lady, I don't think you have much of an argument there.

So basically your diction is slightly irregular, and it's our fault for being confused. Cool.

I work as a waiter in a restaurant. You are arguing that because I used the words flirting in conjunction with 14 year old, I'm creepy, even though this is what people pay me to do (as well as bring them their food).
If I didn't interact with customers, flirting with women and chatting up the guys, I wouldn't make any money.

Flirt with the parents then. I get you're suppose to be charismatic, and I think my mom tipped higher when waiting staff talked to me back when I still regularly went out with her. But a big part of that was they were her age or thereabout and wouldn't mention their own kids.

[wadledo]

So basically your diction is slight irregular, and it's our fault for being confused. Cool.

Except that I explicitly called her a young woman, not a young lady. I know the terms are interchangeable, but in this case I was being linguistically correct.
If you want to say that young lady is an incorrect term for a 13-20 year old woman, fine, but as I said earlier, in english it's linguistically correct.

Flirt with the parents then.

I did that as well.

[Teddy]

See, I'd do that, but it's kind of weird for someone to just approach you on a street. I don't want to be rude after all! I do know the general location of the library, so I could try that, but again I just...think it's rude to just randomly talk to people

Well, a library might not be the best place, because, you know, silence and all that...

[AtlanteanTroll]

Except that I explicitly called her a young woman, not a young lady. I know the terms are interchangeable, but in this case I was being linguistically correct.
If you want to say that young lady is an incorrect term for a 13-20 year old woman, fine, but as I said earlier, in english it's linguistically correct.

Linguistically correct (according to who, BTW), sure, but colloquially? The thing people generally pay attention to.

I did that as well.

I guess it all depends what you mean by "light" flirting. "Light" flirting like people do around here (then again, I am currently in HS) from waiting staff would really freak me out as a parent.

[wadledo]

Linguistically correct (according to who, BTW), sure, but colloquially? The thing people generally pay attention to.

Every single dictionary reference and pop-culture reference I can find. You've never heard a parent on a sitcom say "Go to your room this instant Young Lady/Woman!!"
And not just sitcoms, either. It's common parlance, as far as I can tell.

I guess it all depends what you mean by "light" flirting. "Light" flirting like people do around here (then again, I am currently in HS) from waiting staff would really freak me out as a parent.

As I asked before, what do you think flirting is?

[LaZodiac]

Well, a library might not be the best place, because, you know, silence and all that...

Good point. Hmm.

[AtlanteanTroll]

Every single dictionary reference and pop-culture reference I can find. You've never heard a parent on a sitcom say "Go to your room this instant Young Lady/Woman!!"
And not just sitcoms, either. It's common parlance, as far as I can tell.

That's suppose to condescending and/or not serious at all. Something done in anger. Or so my experience would show.

As I asked before, what do you think flirting is?

Overly gracious, probably sexual (but not necessarily), compliments. *shrug*

[wadledo]

Good point. Hmm.

Plenty of libraries have 'loud' spaces, where it's alright to speak at a normal volume. Plus, as long as someone isn't terribly intent on their reading, most people don't mind it when someone asks about their book politely.

That's suppose to condescending and/or not serious at all. Something done in anger.

So calling someone Young Woman/Lady is something done in a not serious fashion.......
I'd like to point out that that was my point, overall. That I was not flirting with her seriously, and thus used terms and phrases to indicate that?

Overly gracious, probably sexual (but not necessarily), compliments. *shrug*

Again, yes, that's what I did. Done from a place where it is obvious that it is not appropriate (say, a young teenager being overly polite to a much older woman, or an older gentleman being gracious to a much younger woman) is well excepted as polite and harmless forms of flirting in society, I thought.
Admittedly, I was touching the line somewhat by flirting with someone much younger than me, which is why I made clear when I learned her age that she was well below my limit, but it was still fun none the less.

[Cobalt]

Wish people would flirt with me when I went to restaurants. Probably don't because of the people I go with are typically boring.

Actually, thinking about it, I have been flirted with at restaurants when with groups of people I constantly joke with. So yeah, not unusual I guess.

[factotum]

Considering that Venus lacks our lean, and has a few more problems than perpetual spautumn, I think it might have a few more serious consequences than that.

Venus' problems have nothing to do with its lack of axial tilt, they come from a runaway greenhouse effect caused mostly by its massively different geological processes (Venus has no plate tectonics like we do here on Earth). Put Venus where Earth is and give it the same axial tilt and it would probably still be a four-hundred-degree hellhole.

[MoonCat]

Sounds like Zodi's due for a copy of Wintersmith next time it comes around to the gift-giving season.

Before that she'll need Hat Full of Sky. We can skip Wee Free Men as it's less contexty, and we wont even tell her about the existence of I Shall Wear Midnight. That book was not good.

Alas. Do you not have a small group of good friend that you can hang out with? I mean, it's not like everyone in high school is a nice person to be around, but you've go to have some people you like to be around, yeah? I know when I was an underclassman I almost never socialized, and oh boy, do I regret it.

Nope. The few people who I like either look down on me, or get irritated with me if I ever relax and show my true colors. I spent my entire last year (first time in a public high school, before that I was in FDS/dropped out) trying to hang out with people, I'm just that crappy at it.

Freshman year all I did was do D&D.
Sophomore year I did D&D, the fall play, and mentoring.
Junior year I did D&D, the fall play, the spring susical, mentoring, and trivia bowl.
This year? I don't even know. All that stuff. And I started a theater club. You just got to find the sort of people you like to be around and take initiative.

Last year I wasn't accepted into the only DnD group in my school because the other guys in the group thought I was too spazzy. I'm so nerdy and weird the DnD kids wont let me hang out with them.

The people I was hanging out with last year are the ones who do all the things I enjoy doing.

As for the Con it's just a tiny one. It doesn't even have a Wiki page like the "big" one I go to at the end of January. Maybe, like, 2000 people will show up all weekend? It'll still be fun though. That's why I'm going with good friends. Although, they did get the Hyatt this year. Maybe they're expecting an attendance spike. Hmm.

2000 is about a fifth of my town. Country Retirement town, see?

Aww, that's sweet.

Ugh, yeah, I got you on that one. Location is playing way too much into where I want to go to College. I know that basically whatever happens and/or I do a year abroad, it's Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio, or Minnesota, but still. Yeesh. And then I need to get an actual job. Thinking I'm going to apply to a place that sells random used stuff. Fun place. And my friend works there. Minimum wage for inventory doesn't sound too bad if I have a buddy.

Perhaps some other time.

My happiest time this summer wasn't even France (that was amazing, but I stressed a lot about not getting my dad tetchy.) It was the one single week in an acting group with three other kids my age, coming up with wacko plans to prank our townspeople and laughing at eachother's behavior. First time in the whole summer where I was totally relaxed and acted like myself. I wish there were more actors in the world. We're totally the best kind of crazy.

Not even location. I'm freaking out over the very idea that I might start college at some point. And jobs. Getting a job seems scary.

Years, man.

Nah, you don't. It's suffice to say I had a good time with people I enjoy being around.

I totally do!

ION: Holy crap, Michael Sabat's going to be at the Con. Must get a recording of "OVER 9000!"

Christopher Sabat is his name, isn't it?

Simple solution, purchase property on the southern hemisphere, move on April to Northern Hemisphere, move to Southern back in October.

Then I'll just have to go to school on another continent.


ION: Well, in a rush of "I really need to talk to people or I'll go crazy", I called three people today. I ended up getting a promise to call back from one of them, talking for two hours to one of them (who I haven't contacted for 8 months, a really cool friend of mine who I missed), and getting a short plan with my crush to maybe meet up at some point (once he gets back from Burning Man with his parents).

MoonCat has a happy.

[Rockphed]

My toilet won't stop running. I turned the water to it off, so the annoying sound of running water is gone, but surely there is something I can do short of calling up my landlord.

[LaZodiac]

MoonCat has a happy.

Yay! You should get online so we can talk about stuff you know!

[Devmaar]

MoonCat has a happy.

Happy people make me happy

[Coidzor]

I've got one better for creepiness. I had the boss's daughter who is like twelve or something leap onto my back while I was doing stock work.

Weird as all get out.

[MoonCat]

Yay! You should get online so we can talk about stuff you know!

Online. I think I went there once.

Then again, I also went outside once.

I think I live in a no man's land where I'm unsociable online but don't go outside enough to be sociable IRL.

Happy people make me happy

lalalala~

I've got one better for creepiness. I had the boss's daughter who is like twelve or something leap onto my back while I was doing stock work.

Weird as all get out.

I have human fingers in my closet.

Unrelated, I know, but still pretty damn creepy.

[Coidzor]

I have human fingers in my closet.

Unrelated, I know, but still pretty damn creepy.

Well, you know, that's just what happens when the skeletons in there start falling apart.

Sounds like you need to talk a bit more, Miss Moony-wally-flower-cat-thing.

[LaZodiac]

Online. I think I went there once.

Then again, I also went outside once.

I think I live in a no man's land where I'm unsociable online but don't go outside enough to be sociable IRL.

lalalala~

I have human fingers in my closet.

Unrelated, I know, but still pretty damn creepy.

Ah, I hate that mixture. Don't worry, I'll try to break down your barriers Moonie! You're my friend, after all

Also, you picked the best nickname for me because of its association with being happy.

[HalfTangible]

Could someone explain what 'taking the piss' means?

[Recaiden]

I've got one better for creepiness. I had the boss's daughter who is like twelve or something leap onto my back while I was doing stock work.

Weird as all get out.

Employee, jungle gym, means of transportation, all approximately the same thing, you know? Especially to kids.

My toilet won't stop running. I turned the water to it off, so the annoying sound of running water is gone, but surely there is something I can do short of calling up my landlord.

Besides looking in the tank and making sure that neither the float nor the chain is broken/tangled/loose? I know of no thing, but I'm no plumber. I know the toilet at our old apartment would keep running forever if not flushed very carefully so as not to catch the chain.

Could someone explain what 'taking the piss' means?

Acting crazy or irrational in a non-upset way, or with 'out of', to make fun of someone, particularly to 'take down a peg'.