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    Tried Battlemaster against Bronze Cerberus on Dagger to get the squad goal. I didn't lose my shields once that entire time. I knew that if anything took me down, it would be a phantom with the instant-kill-sword-ninja-stab. And I was right. I didn't see the phantom until it was too late, then suddenly I'm down.

    That move still doesn't make sense to me, btw. How is it that my Krogan's shields can withstand direct impact with high-speed missiles , but not a sword?
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    so Batman: the dark knight rises quoted Dune?
    Where was that quote in TDKR?


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    Where was that quote in TDKR?
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    during the "twist" of finding out Talya was Ras al Gul's daughter. She spends a few minutes elaborating on the slow knife's virtues.


    So word on the street is we failed the latest operation? Makes sense. I maybe beat the singular goal, and then didn't play all weekend.


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    So word on the street is we failed the latest operation? Makes sense. I maybe beat the singular goal, and then didn't play all weekend.
    Well, they should have made escort missions appear more often then. Also, fie upon them for making the squad goal and allied goal care about different things.
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    Considering the events so far have been:

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    there's a decent chance we're meant to fail every fourth.
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    there's a decent chance we're meant to fail every fourth.
    Also note that the failed operations have usually preceded a DLC release.

    I'm probably reading too much into this.

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    Hackett's failure message also seemed very cryptic and hint-y. I'm willing to bet this is a stunt and they're leading into something new.

    Now if only we could all intentionally fail every weekend to see if they pass us anyway
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    Hackett's failure message also seemed very cryptic and hint-y. I'm willing to bet this is a stunt and they're leading into something new.
    The failure messages for weeks prior to DLC releases also hinted at the new classes, with varying levels of directness.

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    Hackett's failure message also seemed very cryptic and hint-y. I'm willing to bet this is a stunt and they're leading into something new.

    Now if only we could all intentionally fail every weekend to see if they pass us anyway
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    Let's do it! It might prompt Bioware to stop railroading us.
    These objectives tend to acclimate as part of regular gameplay. It's a matter of how often they pop up that's an issue.
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    These objectives tend to acclimate as part of regular gameplay. It's a matter of how often they pop up that's an issue.
    Which begs the question - did they set the number of escorts needed that high, knowing we wouldn't be able to meet it? Or did we actually meet the required number, and they failed us anyway to setup their announcement?

    Or, did we well and truly fail?

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    Which begs the question - did they set the number of escorts needed that high, knowing we wouldn't be able to meet it? Or did we actually meet the required number, and they failed us anyway to setup their announcement?

    Or, did we well and truly fail?

    We may never know...
    We apparently got about 231K/250K escort missions, so they don't seem to have set it impossibly high.
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    We apparently got about 231K/250K escort missions, so they don't seem to have set it impossibly high.
    Right, just high enough that they can plausibly deny rigging anything. "See, you guys ALMOST made it!"

    Not saying they're doing that - but if they wanted to, for whatever reason, there'd be little we could do to stop them.
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    Right, just high enough that they can plausibly deny rigging anything. "See, you guys ALMOST made it!"

    Not saying they're doing that - but if they wanted to, for whatever reason, there'd be little we could do to stop them.
    A part of me believes they rig it, another part thinks that's a ridiculous notion, and yet another part really doesn't care because the Victory Packs have only had something worthwhile (debatable) in them three times, and we only failed one of those (and got the reward later anyway, which probably wouldn't have happened if we had gotten it the first time).
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    Well, they should have made escort missions appear more often then. Also, fie upon them for making the squad goal and allied goal care about different things.
    I actually enjoy that they were different. Adds to the verisimilitude.

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    Considering the events so far have been:

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    Success
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    there's a decent chance we're meant to fail every fourth.
    I was wondering about that pattern. I personally think they set the bar exceedingly high, and prepare an extra "Bully for you!" if we manage it. But yeah, I was convinced they specifically put the medigel boost in the hardest wave set.

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    Right, just high enough that they can plausibly deny rigging anything. "See, you guys ALMOST made it!"

    Not saying they're doing that - but if they wanted to, for whatever reason, there'd be little we could do to stop them.
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    You know the 'sniping a sniper threw their scope' thing? I just sniped a rocket trooper through its rocket. Love doing that, shame it's near-impossible when not hosting.
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    You know the 'sniping a sniper threw their scope' thing? I just sniped a rocket trooper through its rocket. Love doing that, shame it's near-impossible when not hosting.
    I do that all the time actually - my Demolisher tends to quickscope, so there's generally a rocket in mid-air when I fire. And they almost always shoot one right after recovering from electric-grenade-stun (but thankfully, before ducking back into cover )

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    Played some yesterday with a guy that kept yelling at everyone to use thier missiles. I didn't have my mic in (because my good surround sound headset's mic isn't working) so I didn't get the chance to tell him that we didn't need one in any given situation. He basically pulled his out everytime we ran into a boss enemy. Even if it only had a couple bars left. Just missile. Even after missing with the first missile and it's already almost dead. Missile it again!

    *facepalm*

    We were playing on silver, too. Not even difficult. I was even playing Claymore Infiltrator (arguably the best boss killer).
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    Played some yesterday with a guy that kept yelling at everyone to use thier missiles. I didn't have my mic in (because my good surround sound headset's mic isn't working) so I didn't get the chance to tell him that we didn't need one in any given situation. He basically pulled his out everytime we ran into a boss enemy. Even if it only had a couple bars left. Just missile. Even after missing with the first missile and it's already almost dead. Missile it again!

    *facepalm*

    We were playing on silver, too. Not even difficult. I was even playing Claymore Infiltrator (arguably the best boss killer).
    Those guys suck. They are the offense version o the dudes who medigel at the drop of a hat.

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    Garrus, too. Garrus is an infiltrator, though he doesn't cloak.
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    Noticed something strange in ME 1: Liara has an omnitool. So Liara is technically a sentinel, not an adept? She used tech and biotics, even If it was purely passive tech.
    Garrus, too. Garrus is an infiltrator, though he doesn't cloak.
    Omnitools are omnipresent in Mass Effect, pun intended, so the fact that Liara has one say nothing about her class. Hell, Shepard uses his all of the time. You are right about Garrus though; in fact I'm surprised it took you this long to notice.
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    Noticed something strange in ME 1: Liara has an omnitool. So Liara is technically a sentinel, not an adept? She used tech and biotics, even If it was purely passive tech.
    Garrus, too. Garrus is an infiltrator, though he doesn't cloak.
    Liara had an omintool and I believe one or two tech skills (probably Electronics). However, she had no weapon skills at all, unlike Tali.

    Garrus was always a Tech/Combat guy. In ME1, they gave you one of each kind of play-style in your companions, to better compliment whatever class you picked for Shepard. Wrex is pretty much a Vanguard.

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    Omnitools are omnipresent in Mass Effect, pun intended, so the fact that Liara has one say nothing about her class. Hell, Shepard uses his all of the time. You are right about Garrus though; in fact I'm surprised it took you this long to notice.
    Only people with Tech abilities had an Omnitool equipment slot in ME1, even though everyone used one at one point or another.
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    Only people with Tech abilities had an Omnitool equipment slot in ME1, even though everyone used one at one point or another.
    I had forgotten about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine View Post
    Omnitools are omnipresent in Mass Effect, pun intended, so the fact that Liara has one say nothing about her class. Hell, Shepard uses his all of the time. You are right about Garrus though; in fact I'm surprised it took you this long to notice.
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    I had forgotten about that.
    Aye, I should have been clearer. Liara has both a biotic amp equipment slot and an omnitool equipment slot. So she and Kaiden are both sentinels? I guess?
    Is Kaiden even a sentinel? He uses Barrier instead of Tech armor in 3.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    Aye, I should have been clearer. Liara has both a biotic amp equipment slot and an omnitool equipment slot. So she and Kaiden are both sentinels? I guess?
    Is Kaiden even a sentinel? He uses Barrier instead of Tech armor in 3.
    Wasn't Liara's class "Asari Scientist" or something like that?

    I got the impression that Asari Adepts have time to pick up other stuff. Quite apart from the elven lifespan, Liara tells you in ME3 that biotics are basic education for them (i.e. 'Ritin, 'Reavin', 'Rithmetic,) so it stands to reason she might have had time to pick up a tech skill or two.


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    Quick note about the omnitool thing while I'm on the subject. When I first started ME2, I got irked at all the times my Adept/Vanguard would just whip out the omnitool like they knew what they were doing, and hack a YMIR/put firewalls around Legion/remotely disable Veetor's security camera's on a colony they'd never been to etc. All without even glancing at a squadmate. I started taking Grunt and Zaeed everywhere on my Vanguard to highlight the absurdity of it all.

    Eventually I rationalized it as EDI doing the legwork, and Shep just typing in what she told him to or something.
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    The whole point of the omnitool is that it can do nearly any computing task on command, and add in a military-grade hacking mod for those special jobs. Everyone has an omnitool in the ME universe (hilighted in a sidequest in the Afterlife VIP lounge), but tech experts are capable of working specific magic with them. Perhaps any omnitool can emmenate interference that could overheat a weapon, but only an engineer can do it in a timely manner.
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    Quick note about the omnitool thing while I'm on the subject. When I first started ME2, I got irked at all the times my Adept/Vanguard would just whip out the omnitool like they knew what they were doing, and hack a YMIR/put firewalls around Legion/remotely disable Veetor's security camera's on a colony they'd never been to etc. All without even glancing at a squadmate. I started taking Grunt and Zaeed everywhere on my Vanguard to highlight the absurdity of it all.

    Eventually I rationalized it as EDI doing the legwork, and Shep just typing in what she told him to or something.
    Strange coincidence: By ME3 I was in the complete opposite place to you.

    Grissom Academy, for example - My (Renegade, no less) Engineer FemShep can hack through just about anything and remotely detonate 80% of the Mechs in the Galaxy with one gesture, and yet for some reason she stood back and let Garrus take down the 'boosted' shield that David and his friends are hiding under.

    *I* could totally have done that! Delegation is all well and good, but *I* wanted to make the experimental generator explode and then verbally slap down the cocky twerp hiding under it, not leave it to a thump-monkey lackey!
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    Strange coincidence: By ME3 I was in the complete opposite place to you.

    Grissom Academy, for example - My (Renegade, no less) Engineer FemShep can hack through just about anything and remotely detonate 80% of the Mechs in the Galaxy with one gesture, and yet for some reason she stood back and let Garrus take down the 'boosted' shield that David and his friends are hiding under.

    *I* could totally have done that! Delegation is all well and good, but *I* wanted to make the experimental generator explode and then verbally slap down the cocky twerp hiding under it, not leave it to a thump-monkey lackey!
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    Class specific cutscenes... if only.
    If Bioware included that, Adept Shepard would be hovering around and tearing things apart with his/her mind, Soldier Shepard would be tossing grenades and going into bullet time at the drop of a hat, and Vanguard Shepard would be Falcon Punching the living hell out of all and sundry. They'd need several different cutscenes for the same events. And it would have been awesome.
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    Phoe does claymore stack up to piranha? I wa under the impression that the continuous output made up for the drop in acute damage. If the single shot isn't enough to kill an enemy, then the piranha is superior?
    I guess it's a preference thing? I was using the Claymore long before the Piranha existed. It also has range. I can head shot mooks at distances that the Piranha would be lucky to get one pellet on. Also, the single shot nature of the Claymore I fell is more appropriate for infiltrators.

    The Piranha just feels too unreliable. I'll take a weaker, reliable gun over any powerful, unreliable gun. See also: my preference for the Phaeston.
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