Darths and Droids III: Search Your DNA Report

[Cikomyr]

I never understood the blue milk thingy. Is it some sort of mind-control substance used by the survivalist/cultist parents of Luke?

[Kato]

I never understood the blue milk thingy. Is it some sort of mind-control substance used by the survivalist/cultist parents of Luke?

Huh? Is this somehow related to today's comic? But if you care... Blue Milk on Wookiepedia.


I guess isolation can drive you crazy but this Yoda is... uh...

[Cikomyr]

Huh? Is this somehow related to today's comic? But if you care... Blue Milk on Wookiepedia.


I guess isolation can drive you crazy but this Yoda is... uh...

It's not related to today's comic, except we are remembered that Luke's adoptive parents were crazy survivalist who taught him to survive SWAMPS.

Think about it for a minute.


And for the "blue milk", I know it appears in the movie and is canon. It's just that I never understood the survivalists' obsession with "drinking the blue milk"

[Rogar Demonblud]

Hey, everyone, say 'Hi' to Darth (in)Sain.

[Yuki Akuma]

Oh, that's right, Sally plays Yoda.

[Lizard Lord]

Since R2 should recognize Yoda, I wonder what Pete's beeps are actually saying.

[Porthos]

Hey, everyone, say 'Hi' to Darth (in)Sain.

Twenty years speaking with bugs only, how sane you will be, hmm?

I personally think this an inspired direction. Kudos for Sally for coming up with that idea (presuming she is the one who decided to take this direction with Yoda).

[ThePhantom]

Excellent. So nice to met you, Squishy.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Twenty years speaking with bugs only, how sane you will be, hmm?

Canonically speaking, Luke is 21 right now, since he was 16 at the start of ANH. Yes, Leia was a Senator for several years at 16.

Speaking of chronicity errors, the prequels really screw up the OT. R2 should know and be able to relate every big reveal, and tell the twins about their mother. And it would have been so easy to prevent that kind of retroactive headache. Just have both droids mindwiped.

[BannedInSchool]

Speaking of chronicity errors, the prequels really screw up the OT. R2 should know and be able to relate every big reveal, and tell the twins about their mother.

They never asked. *whirr*boop*beedeebeedeebeedee*

[Nerd-o-rama]

Canonically speaking, Luke is 21 right now, since he was 16 at the start of ANH. Yes, Leia was a Senator for several years at 16.

Speaking of chronicity errors, the prequels really screw up the OT. R2 should know and be able to relate every big reveal, and tell the twins about their mother. And it would have been so easy to prevent that kind of retroactive headache. Just have both droids mindwiped.

I thought they were 18 at the start of ANH. Says something about the Lars's parenting style vs. Bail Organa's given that one twin is a feckless farmboy and the other is one of the most important political figures in the galaxy at the same time, though.

And really, the biggest problem I had with the prequels - and that's saying quite a lot - is that they largely make Obi-Wan and R2 into compulsively-lying, manipulative jerks simply by nature of what we know they know from the prequels.

Then again, after Return of the Jedi, I never thought of Obi-Wan as a precisely honest or traditionally good guy anyway, at least in terms of his relationship with Luke. He did what he felt he had to do to fix his mistakes and defeat Vader and the Emperor, no matter how much he had to manipulate some hapless schmuck to do so. It's harder to excuse R2 because he doesn't have the same motivation or reason to hide the truth.

[Lizard Lord]

In a scene that was cut from the original movies (and never added when they were redone) was Yoda on his death bed saying that Obi-won would have told Luke the truth but Yoda ordered him not to.

[Cikomyr]

In a scene that was cut from the original movies (and never added when they were redone) was Yoda on his death bed saying that Obi-won would have told Luke the truth but Yoda ordered him not to.

I am happy they cut it.

Obi-wan should stand up to his actions. He's still the one who had to look the boy in the eyes, and tell him that a lie was the truth.

[Traab]

I thought they were 18 at the start of ANH. Says something about the Lars's parenting style vs. Bail Organa's given that one twin is a feckless farmboy and the other is one of the most important political figures in the galaxy at the same time, though.

And really, the biggest problem I had with the prequels - and that's saying quite a lot - is that they largely make Obi-Wan and R2 into compulsively-lying, manipulative jerks simply by nature of what we know they know from the prequels.

Then again, after Return of the Jedi, I never thought of Obi-Wan as a precisely honest or traditionally good guy anyway, at least in terms of his relationship with Luke. He did what he felt he had to do to fix his mistakes and defeat Vader and the Emperor, no matter how much he had to manipulate some hapless schmuck to do so. It's harder to excuse R2 because he doesn't have the same motivation or reason to hide the truth.

I really dont see how the relative parenting styles can really be compared. Bail organa and his wife are either outright rulers of their world, or at least were senators themselves before adopting leia. Luke was raised a farmboy.... because his family was a group of farmers. Did you expect him to grow up as a diplomat on a moisture farm in the middle of bum*^%$ nowhere, tattoine?

[Rogar Demonblud]

I thought they were 18 at the start of ANH.

Supposedly, Leia's 24. The twin thing was added later as a way out of the love triangle that didn't involve protagonist death.

[hamishspence]

Luke's age varies a bit - in the novelization of the first Star Wars movie, he's said to be 20, in later sources, this is reduced to 18.

Fits with RoTS beginning 19 years before ANH and ending a week or two later.

[Nerd-o-rama]

I really dont see how the relative parenting styles can really be compared. Bail organa and his wife are either outright rulers of their world, or at least were senators themselves before adopting leia. Luke was raised a farmboy.... because his family was a group of farmers. Did you expect him to grow up as a diplomat on a moisture farm in the middle of bum*^%$ nowhere, tattoine?

Well, the fact of the matter is that if Owen weren't so concerned with remaining inconspicuous (despite letting Luke keep his father's surname for some reason) and keeping Luke sequestered quietly on Tatooine, Luke had the natural talent to do almost anything in the field of space flight or combat as soon as he left the planet.

On the other hand, maybe that was part of the plan. Put one twin out in the big wide galaxy and stick the other one in the middle of nowhere where Vader would never go as a backup.

You know, considering that the originator of this Brilliant Plan drags Luke off-planet literally the second he realizes that Leia's been captured by the Empire, that's the only explanation that makes sense.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Actually, in one of the EU novels, it's posited that Luke was basically staked out like a goat on a tiger hunt. He was bait.

Makes as much sense as anything else. Mainly because I'm actually certain that the Jedi didn't have a plan right then.

[Kornaki]

It's harder to excuse R2 because he doesn't have the same motivation or reason to hide the truth.

What about the fact that he's a robot that will do what he's programmed, not a human being with emotions and the ability to feel empathy?

[Nerd-o-rama]

What about the fact that he's a robot that will do what he's programmed, not a human being with emotions and the ability to feel empathy?

R2

Doing as he's told.

I mean I guess it's possible. He followed some directions in ANH.

[EnragedFilia]

The behavior of droids is kinda all over the place in the Star Wars setting. They pretty much do whatever the plot needs them to, whether it's explained by programming or personality or something else entirely.

[BannedInSchool]

I mean I guess it's possible. He followed some directions in ANH.

After several decades of receiving orders without a memory wipe maybe he can just do whatever he wants because some orders conflict or some order could be interpreted to mean what he wants to do. Or he's crazy now.

[Traab]

Well, the fact of the matter is that if Owen weren't so concerned with remaining inconspicuous (despite letting Luke keep his father's surname for some reason) and keeping Luke sequestered quietly on Tatooine, Luke had the natural talent to do almost anything in the field of space flight or combat as soon as he left the planet.

On the other hand, maybe that was part of the plan. Put one twin out in the big wide galaxy and stick the other one in the middle of nowhere where Vader would never go as a backup.

You know, considering that the originator of this Brilliant Plan drags Luke off-planet literally the second he realizes that Leia's been captured by the Empire, that's the only explanation that makes sense.

The problem with that is, owen was kind of obsessed with the idea of luke being like his father. He really didnt want to raise the next generation of mass murdering sith lords, so he tried to keep him a farmer. As for the surname, meh, for all we know, Skywalker is the empires version of Smith. More seriously, there is also the probability that there are more skywalkers in his extended family on tattoine, anakins mom had to come from somewhere after all.

[zimmerwald1915]

The problem with that is, owen was kind of obsessed with the idea of luke being like his father. He really didnt want to raise the next generation of mass murdering sith lords, so he tried to keep him a farmer. As for the surname, meh, for all we know, Skywalker is the empires version of Smith. More seriously, there is also the probability that there are more skywalkers in his extended family on tattoine, anakins mom had to come from somewhere after all.

Skywalker...that's my slave name.

[ChowGuy]

Skywalker...that's my slave name.

And you give a slave some common name. or maybe the the name of his profession. like Smith, or Pilot. or maybe Anjin ("Anjin-san") if you happen to be in 17th century Japan. And what did Lars tell young Skywalker his father was (in the movie)? "He was a navigator on a spice freighter."

[Nerd-o-rama]

There's a number of Nounverber-style names in Star Wars. Biggs Darklighter from the original film and his family from the novels, the Sunrider clan from the comics, etc. It probably is a sort of poetic job title, although why someone would have bestowed it on Shmi particularly isn't really clear to me.

It does work for both Luke and Anakin on a few levels, at least. They're natural pilots, galactic travelers, and Jedi (people who can, if not fly, at least jump hella high).

[BannedInSchool]

Or maybe "Starkiller" is just a manly boasting name, like Magnus Magnussen.

[ChowGuy]

It's a big galaxy, Mr. Spock. We don't know Shmi's culture, how she became a slave. or from whom Watto acquired her either (or at least not canonically). Red Cloud or Moonwatcher may seem like merely poetic names too, til you take into account their totemic origins. Muhammad Ali referred to Clay as his "slave name" too. Doesn't mean he wasn't born with it.

[EnragedFilia]

I tried looking it up the other day, but I just got fed up with the interminable rehash of semi-relevant tie-in materials.

[Gez]

Skywalker...that's my slave name.

One would think a slave name would be something like Dirtworker or something. Naming a slave Skywalker would be very weird. Maybe a sort of high-brow mockery, since both "sky" and "walker" are semantically tied to freedom.