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    Anyone up for trying Level 61 Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neftren View Post
    Anyone up for trying Level 61 Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode with me?
    Xbox? Perhaps today after 3:30 PST. Though that may not be possible, and I may have a "honey do" list when I get home.
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    Xbox? Perhaps today after 3:30 PST. Though that may not be possible, and I may have a "honey do" list when I get home.
    Alas, PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neftren View Post
    Anyone up for trying Level 61 Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode with me?
    Sure, I have a lvl 61 Zer0.
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    Played the new DLC at PAX today. Lots of fun.
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    I was entertained by the new short. It's basically just a trailer for Tiny Tina's. Not as good as Meat Bicycle. But still funny.

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    Having just unlocked UVHM, I've come to the conclusion that any level in which I can shoot a mook in the head with a ludicrously high damage sniper rifle (30001 damage at level 50, + various crit bonuses) and not have him die is a stupid level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Final_Stand View Post
    Having just unlocked UVHM, I've come to the conclusion that any level in which I can shoot a mook in the head with a ludicrously high damage sniper rifle (30001 damage at level 50, + various crit bonuses) and not have him die is a stupid level.
    That's why I hate UVHM in general. However since I realized that my playstyle basically amounts to support fire, hiding behind cover when my shields are down, I've been using a Amplify shield. Actually works pretty well for me. Still should get myself a lvl 61 Bee though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno9999 View Post
    That's why I hate UVHM in general. However since I realized that my playstyle basically amounts to support fire, hiding behind cover when my shields are down, I've been using a Amplify shield. Actually works pretty well for me. Still should get myself a lvl 61 Bee though.
    Without that shield I would've pretty much quit UVHM out of despair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Final_Stand View Post
    Having just unlocked UVHM, I've come to the conclusion that any level in which I can shoot a mook in the head with a ludicrously high damage sniper rifle (30001 damage at level 50, + various crit bonuses) and not have him die is a stupid level.
    I found that was happening in the last few areas in playthrough 2, much less UVHM!

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    On the other hand, I'm playing Salvador with an Unkempt Harold in one hand, slag Rubi in the other, and Gunzerk active 90% of the time, and I recently found out that UVHM can be #@%$ing awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Final_Stand View Post
    Having just unlocked UVHM, I've come to the conclusion that any level in which I can shoot a mook in the head with a ludicrously high damage sniper rifle (30001 damage at level 50, + various crit bonuses) and not have him die is a stupid level.
    You can one-shot mooks on UVHM, just play on PC where you can give yourself a decent rifle.
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    So...you have to cheat in order to play the game properly? Wow, that's some stellar design right there, isn't it?

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    no, you have to play the game well to succeed on higher difficulties.

    challenge isn't for everyone i suppose.

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    You don't need to cheat, you just need a bee shield and some legendary guns (which is pretty much cheating anyway). I don't know what you guys are talking about with all this TVHM difficulty stuff though, I found it just as easy as the first playthrough.

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    There were bits in each difficulty that were challenging. Doing Tina's on UVH was difficult because we started there and our guns were underleveled. Try killing a crystal skele without a same-level explosive weapon. I played through the entire game, all three modes, with a friend. Once we were geared appropriately (and legendary items are useful but by no means required) our tactics devolved to the same tried and true methods.

    I'd drop turrets and slag-n-swap/cower behind my turrets and run out to save the Gunzerker when he went down. The Bee was perfect for my build since I went 100% turret spam+shield buffs. Before the Bee I never killed anything myself but I rarely went down. After the Bee I became the principal damage dealer on large targets because my shields came back so incredibly fast.

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    Crystal Skeletons are weak to splash and melee damage. You could just punch it twice at any level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triscuitable View Post
    Crystal Skeletons are weak to splash and melee damage. You could just punch it twice at any level.
    Or you could go through the entire expansion without discovering Skeletons are weak to melee damage, which is what we managed to do....

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    no, you have to play the game well to succeed on higher difficulties.

    challenge isn't for everyone i suppose.
    And "giving yourself" some sort of super gun is a challenge? Because that's what I was responding to.

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    So...you have to cheat in order to play the game properly? Wow, that's some stellar design right there, isn't it?
    I don't know how much easier or harder it is on console, I never stuck with it long enough before switching to the Steam version.

    And cheating is such a strong word. I prefer "modding."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    I don't know how much easier or harder it is on console, I never stuck with it long enough before switching to the Steam version.

    And cheating is such a strong word. I prefer "modding."
    It's modding to your benefit, i.e., cheating.
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    It's modding to your benefit, i.e., cheating.
    Well I'm sure all the poor pixels my actions have offended will be petitioning me to stop any moment.
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    Save editing completely killed my enthusiasm for the first Borderlands game, so I avoided doing it in BL2.

    Except when it comes to Seraph crystals. I don't have the time and patience to kill the bosses the approximately two hundred thousand times it takes to get enough crystals to get a gun.
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    And "giving yourself" some sort of super gun is a challenge? Because that's what I was responding to.
    no, i was disputing the suggestion that you need to give yourself guns to play the game "properly" in the first place. myself and many others have played and beaten >90% of UHVM without resorting to save editing or similar "tactics."

    the implication was that it might not be the game design at fault if you're struggling to kill weak UVHM creatures. maybe you just aren't playing well.

    it's like saying that basketball is a flawed game just because I can't dunk.

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    no, i was disputing the suggestion that you need to give yourself guns to play the game "properly" in the first place.
    Oh I didn't suggest that at all - it just removes the weapons grind and lets you skip right to the OHKO head-shotting from Normal play.

    Heck, you can give yourself an entry-level UVHM gun if you want more of a challenge; I tried that out too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aethernox View Post
    no, i was disputing the suggestion that you need to give yourself guns to play the game "properly" in the first place. myself and many others have played and beaten >90% of UHVM without resorting to save editing or similar "tactics."

    the implication was that it might not be the game design at fault if you're struggling to kill weak UVHM creatures. maybe you just aren't playing well.

    it's like saying that basketball is a flawed game just because I can't dunk.
    No. The original statement was that certain play-styles such as sniping are ineffectual past a certain point, and you decided to misinterpret the statement and act condescending about your "superior skill" as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anteros View Post
    No. The original statement was that certain play-styles such as sniping are ineffectual past a certain point, and you decided to misinterpret the statement and act condescending about your "superior skill" as a result.
    i didn't realize that sniping was ineffectual

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    This is the skill build he was using for the entire video, as shown at the end.

    Interesting... I think I might try something similar, probably with a Survivor mod that boosts Rising Sh0t and Ambush, though mostly for the passive Health regen. OR, I can keep my Professional mod... Oh my... IDEA!!!
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    As he pointed out in the video. The way the game decides what type of ammo is dropped means if you are only using sniper ammo, you will mostly get sniper ammo.
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    Congratulations--you've linked to a video that proves a sniper-focused Zer0 with around x4 critical damage can, in fact, one-shot robots using a type of damage they're particularly susceptible to. How about trying the same trick with a non-sniper focused character?

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