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    Agree with this....
    Is there a particular reason you are against this?

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    I also am opposed to the Harem Idea. Not because I have any problems with harems, but because, as I said in the last thread, I want Lilina and Gonzales to end up together.
    Okay. Although to be fair I could shrink Roy's harem to not include Lilina.
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    Okay. Although to be fair I could shrink Roy's harem to not include Lilina.
    *Looks up Roy's Supports* ...Yes, that would work.
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    And then Roy spends the rest of his days neglecting his haremites and sending assasins after Gonzales so that he can have Lillina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine View Post
    *Looks up Roy's Supports* ...Yes, that would work.
    I think I'll have it as, select which girls you want Roy with, (Obviously only selecting one, means you don't want a harem)

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    And then Roy spends the rest of his days neglecting his haremites and sending assasins after Gonzales so that he can have Lillina.
    So Hector got to him
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    Always follow your (future) father-in-law's example.
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    ...please don't do any of that.
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    ...please don't do any of that.
    Why are you against the harem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine View Post
    I also am opposed to the Harem Idea. Not because I have any problems with harems, but because, as I said in the last thread, I want Lilina and Gonzales to end up together.
    Well I guess I'll see how their interactions play out before I put a serious vote in.

    And if people don't want a harem then they should just outvote it.
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    I also vote Gonzales x Lillina. After all, many girls want men like their fathers... If that's so, Lilina may want an axe-wielding god of death. Roy fails on all accounts, Gonzales succeeds on all counts.
    Also, it means more screentime for Gonzales, which I support infinitely. He's just so adorable.
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    To be fair, my Hector kinda failed at being an axe wielding god of death.

    But your votes been counted.
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    Oh, joy that racist idiot. If he's still alive Roy. I'm not sure he's going to be willing to talk to you.


    Oh wonderful, just what we needed.



    Oh no, what? And why didn't I get advanced warning on this.



    And what happened to Hector?


    This is just bloody wonderful.


    Hector Zephiel you ungrateful *******! We saved your life twenty years back and this is how you repay us!
    Zephiel Don't call me that!
    Hector Me and Eliwood are the only reason you are still alive! We could have let you die to the black fang. But we choose to save you.
    Which at this point, is really seeming like a mistake.
    Zephiel Well then, the gods will judge you well. For I am needed to bring justice to this entire continent.
    Hector Justice! Justice! We fought twenty years to prevent dragons from entering this world! And you brought them back!
    Dragons!?
    Illven?
    Marcus.... Hector just said Zephiel got his hands on dragons.
    What?
    Why are you so worried? Dragons are just a fairy-tale. Hector must be delirious.
    ....I'm guessing your mother and father never talked much about how they met.







    Sinister people? Is she talking about the dragons?
    Dragons are just a fairy tale Illven. Is a commander that's not insane too much to ask for.
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    Why are you against the harem?
    Honestly Roy as a pervert is rapidly becoming annoying to me. But I suppose I shouldn't spoil the fun for everyone so I'll leave it at that.
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    To be honest, i'm also against the Harem option. I just think that it would make the bond between Roy and each of his lovers less important than the non-harem option but I don't have any other requests for supports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xondoure View Post
    Honestly Roy as a pervert is rapidly becoming annoying to me. But I suppose I shouldn't spoil the fun for everyone so I'll leave it at that.
    I've gotta agree with you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xondoure View Post
    Honestly Roy as a pervert is rapidly becoming annoying to me. But I suppose I shouldn't spoil the fun for everyone so I'll leave it at that.
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    I've gotta agree with you there.
    I would have to concur.
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    I think it's more that the "pervert" archetype is played so shallowly here. Roy can be a "ladies' man" if he gives the impression that he understands and cares about the girls he pursues as individuals (see Deme's sheep analogy). but making bland one-liner advances toward everyone gets old fast. And no, references to "laying on hands" do not count as individually tailored. It's fine for small-time characters like Sain, but Roy's the main character, and the focus of the story. As it stands, Roy comes off as less "ladies man" and more "sixteen year old with a hyper-inflated ego" I think the reason for Roy's relationship success is that he's sincere and empathetic; he listens to what people have to say, and honestly cares how they are doing. He also tries to give everyone as much hope as possible facing obscenely long odds. Roy's charisma is the infectious optimism of the idealist who wants to show everyone his goal made real, and has nothing to do with intentional eloquence or a high Luck score.

    I think you mentioned that you were going for awkwardness, because Roy's crushing on Lilina, but Roy comes off oblivious and indifferent rather than awkward simply because of the volume of his pickup lines. I don't think he should be a chaste monk, just that he should go about things in a different way that's a bit more reflective of his in-game persona.

    I think I overthought this again. Please feel free to disregard as much of this as you like. I blather on with comments because I like this LP and I want to give good, useful feedback.
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    Okay, I didn't really know why Roy was so good with girls because I haven't played Fire emblem 6.

    Do the rest of you agree with Selpharia's views?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illven View Post
    Okay, I didn't really know why Roy was so good with girls because I haven't played Fire emblem 6.

    Do the rest of you agree with Selpharia's views?
    I've only ever made it about halfway through the game, but yeah, I think Selpharia got it on the nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illven View Post
    Okay, I didn't really know why Roy was so good with girls because I haven't played Fire emblem 6.

    Do the rest of you agree with Selpharia's views?
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    Yeah, I think I agree. More than feeling out of place on an FE protagonist (which isn't bad, but is true), the gag's gotten very one-note, and because of that, actually kind of takes away some depth from Roy here, instead of adding it the way an unexpected trait should.
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    Okay the people have spoken.

    Now to avoid character derailment I would need a significant event to start to change Roy's personality. Thankfully, we have one coming at the end of the chapter.

    So only one more chapter and Roy won't be a giant pervert anymore.
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    Or you could take what's there and flesh it out some, emotionally; I think that'd work pretty alright, too.
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    Or you could take what's there and flesh it out some, emotionally; I think that'd work pretty alright, too.
    Well I mean he's not going drop his lust entirely. He'll probably just realize that there are more important things right now.
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    Okay Marcus, Alan, and Lance go to that north village and warn them. Everyone get out of range of those soldiers. And Chad let me stat-o-vision you.

    They are attacking already, Illven. Can I have a weapon!?

    Arrgh!



    And what will you do, Lugh?











    Lugh together, wouldn't it?




    Lugh But I've chosen not to run away anymore.

    Huh, you're really weak, and not that tough. In fact all you have is that you're fast.

    Okay, Lance and Alan try to take care of the two soldiers that attacked Marcus. Bors and Thany take out the first soldier attacking the southern group. Ward handle the other soldier.

    Lance Don't worry Marcus. I'm here to help!

    I will break you soon.

    I will rescue lord Hector.

    Thany Woot! I'm unstoppable!

    Could be worse.

    Take that!

    Let me show you my power!

    Good job!

    You are nothing compared to me.

    Hey save some kills for the rest of us!

    Arrgh!

    Illven, weapon please!

    Marcus visit that village. Alan finish the soldier. Lance weaken the Archer. Ellen heal Ward.



    Okay, let me stat-o-vision you.

    Okay, okay not bad. Let's see how you do. Attack the Archer.

    Ha! No match for me!

    Lance Don't worry Marcus, we'll take care of the archer!

    Lugh Burn, archer!

    There you go.


    fight in their last hope.

    Oh no.




    Oh. Thank Arceus.
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    Probably the dragons idiot.


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    Ah yes, slaughter the women and children as well, that has absolutely no negative consequences like enraging the people to fight against you all the harder and resort to guerilla tactics that will bleed any empire dry. No negative consequences whatsoever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracarot View Post
    Ah yes, slaughter the women and children as well, that has absolutely no negative consequences like enraging the people to fight against you all the harder and resort to guerilla tactics that will bleed any empire dry. No negative consequences whatsoever.
    Zephiel's not exactly sane at this point
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    It actually makes sense combined with the dragons. Oh sure, there'll be some heroes, but what would you do if you are say, a village or town head and the Bern army comes with dragons and wipes out the entirety of a village next door with mythical monsters at his beck and call?

    Plus Zephiel has a Machiavellian streak in the family, and you know what he says about being feared and being loved.

    Guerrilla tactics also don't work if you annihilate population centers like Zephiel is doing, because they need populous areas to gather support and serve as bases to make up for their material disadvantages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selpharia View Post
    It actually makes sense combined with the dragons. Oh sure, there'll be some heroes, but what would you do if you are say, a village or town head and the Bern army comes with dragons and wipes out the entirety of a village next door with mythical monsters at his beck and call?

    Plus Zephiel has a Machiavellian streak in the family, and you know what he says about being feared and being loved.

    Guerrilla tactics also don't work if you annihilate population centers like Zephiel is doing, because they need populous areas to gather support and serve as bases to make up for their material disadvantages.
    An interesting proposition and legitimate point. However I do believe I posses the necessary counter point. This would only work if the dragons continued to take Zephiel's commands. Ask for their help too many times or be just a bit too domineering in how he goes about it he would in turn be at the mercy of dragons. As someone once said "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons. For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup" (or something to that effect.

    As to the subject of a loss of population centers for rallying support and gathering supplies. It should be pointed out that there is the option of hunting and gathering from the forests and plains, as well as taking supplies from defeated soldiers of Bern. Sure it wouldn't allow for a strong rebel group, but it would be enough to annoy Zephiel and thus have him send forces after it. So long as he needs an army chasing even a small band of rebels that's gold going down the treasury. Eventually Zephiel would be broke, or the dragons will have eaten him. That or the fact these rebels were doing enough damage would rally the other nations on the Continent against Bern. It was Washington's strategy in the American Revolution, he didn't need to beat the British on the field of battle, he needed to keep the Continental Army together and eventually force to much treasure and tears out of the British. It's also the strategy used by North Vietnam against the U.S. The U.S. using tactics like Operation Rolling Thunder and the My Lai massacre were doing what Sephiel is doing now pretty much, and still the U.S. eventually had enough. Guerilla warfare is annoying that way and that's why Sun Tzu advocates force as the last option and to make sure that a war is for the benefit of the conquered as well as the conquerers.

    A bit wordy, and for that I apologize, but the point stands.

    Oh and Illven I'm quite aware Zephiel is a few swords short of an armory, that doesn't make the decision any less stupid, it just explains why the stupid decision occured. He's no longer sane enough to recognize the stupidity.

    On another note I do apologize if any of this came out as condescending, it was not meant in that spirit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracarot View Post
    An interesting proposition and legitimate point. However I do believe I posses the necessary counter point. This would only work if the dragons continued to take Zephiel's commands. Ask for their help too many times or be just a bit too domineering in how he goes about it he would in turn be at the mercy of dragons. As someone once said "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons. For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup" (or something to that effect.

    As to the subject of a loss of population centers for rallying support and gathering supplies. It should be pointed out that there is the option of hunting and gathering from the forests and plains, as well as taking supplies from defeated soldiers of Bern. Sure it wouldn't allow for a strong rebel group, but it would be enough to annoy Zephiel and thus have him send forces after it. So long as he needs an army chasing even a small band of rebels that's gold going down the treasury. Eventually Zephiel would be broke, or the dragons will have eaten him. That or the fact these rebels were doing enough damage would rally the other nations on the Continent against Bern. It was Washington's strategy in the American Revolution, he didn't need to beat the British on the field of battle, he needed to keep the Continental Army together and eventually force to much treasure and tears out of the British. It's also the strategy used by North Vietnam against the U.S. The U.S. using tactics like Operation Rolling Thunder and the My Lai massacre were doing what Sephiel is doing now pretty much, and still the U.S. eventually had enough. Guerilla warfare is annoying that way and that's why Sun Tzu advocates force as the last option and to make sure that a war is for the benefit of the conquered as well as the conquerers.

    A bit wordy, and for that I apologize, but the point stands.

    Oh and Illven I'm quite aware Zephiel is a few swords short of an armory, that doesn't make the decision any less stupid, it just explains why the stupid decision occured. He's no longer sane enough to recognize the stupidity.

    On another note I do apologize if any of this came out as condescending, it was not meant in that spirit.
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