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    That sparkle mane seems to scare a lot of pony artists and they don't like drawing it or something.
    to be fair, even the show's animators have trouble with those things.
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    to be fair, even the show's animators have trouble with those things.
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    to be fair, even the show's animators have trouble with those things.
    If that's an oblique suggestion for why we don't get enough Luna then I will disagree. It's Flash, its all additive work. So once they have a model they have everything that model could do before. Its why the animation has constantly improved and background ponies have diversified, especially away from standard models, because they have increasing time to do such things. So Luna would be less and less work each time, and you could possibly get away with just new direction and placing

    Or that's my understanding of Flash animation anyways.

    Now though while I should say that even if its more difficult that's not much excuse for the animators who are paid to do that, but is some of one for artist that do this presumably mostly in their spare time. But then most of them are doing still work not animation so the biggest distinctions are gone.

    Ehh I'm grinding an old axe, I got a little fed-up with people not doing Luna right about a month after Luna Eclipsed first aired and I was still seeing people doing stuff with depowered SE01 Luna. So that show accuracy became a sticking point. If you want her in your art, then do it right is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soras Teva Gee View Post
    Ehh I'm grinding an old axe, I got a little fed-up with people not doing Luna right about a month after Luna Eclipsed first aired and I was still seeing people doing stuff with depowered SE01 Luna. So that show accuracy became a sticking point. If you want her in your art, then do it right is all.
    You do know that a lot of people prefer the original design over the new one? I suspect that accuracy isn't as large a factor as preference here.

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    I'd just like to note that my original issue had nothing to do with the mane. I found that scarf picture weird because Luna's face, head, and neck all have about the same proportions as Twilight's and Luna and Twilight are placed evenly next to each other. In the show, Luna is bigger and has a different face and body shape than Twilight, so seeing them looking the same was odd enough that I didn't even recognize it as Luna at first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tvtyrant View Post
    You do know that a lot of people prefer the original design over the new one? I suspect that accuracy isn't as large a factor as preference here.
    Personally I wasn't much of a fan of the depowered Luna.


    Actually reverse that. The powered Luna is just so awesome that the depowered Luna wanes in comparison.
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    Actually reverse that. The powered Luna is just so awesome that the depowered Luna wanes in comparison.
    This, Luna was a blank slate until Luna Eclipsed. Filling that was an awesome pony with much more to her then a couple of shock looks.

    This effects the design too, without a character to go with it its just a blank to project whatever onto. When canon comes along and wipes that out... well yeah.

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    So... season 3 is starting so very soon... so very soon...
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    If that's an oblique suggestion for why we don't get enough Luna then I will disagree. It's Flash, its all additive work. So once they have a model they have everything that model could do before. Its why the animation has constantly improved and background ponies have diversified, especially away from standard models, because they have increasing time to do such things. So Luna would be less and less work each time, and you could possibly get away with just new direction and placing

    Or that's my understanding of Flash animation anyways.
    It's not Flash animation as such. FiM uses Symbol animation, which is a way of animating in Flash. I haven't done a great deal of Symbol animation, but from what I know about it, they probably have a library of pre-drawn pony parts (most likely imported in from Illustrator) which they convert into Symbols and animate by tweening them from one position to the next. I think the animation process is kind of similar to how they animate in 3D, minus the library part, but I don't know enough about 3D animation to say for sure. I have a friend who's very good with symbols, he probably knows better then I do.

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    What does a Lich do when his favorite recreation is denied to him?
    Well, most of last week, prepare for the Worlds or play Transport Tycoon slightly more heavily.

    And, as it happens, a Nanoha fanfic that hadn't updated in a long time started again, and that prompted me to start reading one of the other better ones again, as I had stopped checking the Nanoha section of Fanfic regularly some time ago, and the chap had started to release an umpteentrh sequel, and I realised I couldn't even remember what had happened in the first one.

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    Which reminds me I really want a scrambled egg.
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    Cool stuff! I like the firey mane! You might want to make the cutie mark stand out a little more though; It'll likely be very hard to see when at avatar size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soras Teva Gee View Post
    If that's an oblique suggestion for why we don't get enough Luna then I will disagree. It's Flash, its all additive work. So once they have a model they have everything that model could do before. Its why the animation has constantly improved and background ponies have diversified, especially away from standard models, because they have increasing time to do such things. So Luna would be less and less work each time, and you could possibly get away with just new direction and placing

    Or that's my understanding of Flash animation anyways.

    Now though while I should say that even if its more difficult that's not much excuse for the animators who are paid to do that, but is some of one for artist that do this presumably mostly in their spare time. But then most of them are doing still work not animation so the biggest distinctions are gone.

    Ehh I'm grinding an old axe, I got a little fed-up with people not doing Luna right about a month after Luna Eclipsed first aired and I was still seeing people doing stuff with depowered SE01 Luna. So that show accuracy became a sticking point. If you want her in your art, then do it right is all.
    I suspect it's that they originally started Luna Eclipsed using the old design and changed her design at some point during or after the episode was created. Quite often during the episode, if you pause you can see parts of her old mane left over, that they didn't remove.

    So I don't think it's that they have a problem with her mane, it's just that they were probably in a hurry because the decision to change her design happened relatively late (I suspect). That aside, I agree that they'll continue to get better, too.

    I will say, though, that her mane really is tricky, at least for me. Even Celestia's, while tedious, is easier. I don't know how they do it, but personally I haven't yet found the right trick for doing it easily. I have to get sort of hacky to make it look right. This might just be because I don't use the same software or methods, though.

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    Actually reverse that. The powered Luna is just so awesome that the depowered Luna wanes in comparison.
    Eeyup!

    This is also the reason why the whole Woona thing doesn't hold much appeal to me, and why - to bring back the filly wars - I'd probably have to give the victory to Twilight when it comes to being cute. Because cuteness is not the appeal of Luna to me. I like Luna for being totally badass and for her dark, mysterious beauty, not for being cute and adorable. Reverting her back to little S1 Luna takes her edge away.

    Frankly I'd love to see a filly Luna who isn't cute and adorable, but dark and edgy like her adult self.

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    I was just checking out some stuff for the Borderlands 2 DLC character, Gaige the Mechromancer.

    Apparently her skill tree contains all of the pony references. No, really.
    Though knowing ponythread, someone has long since linked this.

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    I was just checking out some stuff for the Borderlands 2 DLC character, Gaige the Mechromancer.

    Apparently her skill tree contains all of the pony references. No, really.
    Though knowing ponythread, someone has long since linked this.
    Old news, but still awesome.

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    would be great if a secret easter egg turn you into a pony when you fill up every pony related skills.

    I am not familiar with borderland terminology but "mechromancer"? what's a "mechro"? Unless they mean mech-romancer... ummm....hopefully that's not what they mean to imply.

    Also discussion of mythical creatures on EQD brings up an interesting point. Sphinx in Equestria... Human faced or pony faced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairaven View Post
    would be great if a secret easter egg turn you into a pony when you fill up every pony related skills.

    I am not familiar with borderland terminology but "mechromancer"? what's a "mechro"? Unless they mean mech-romancer... ummm....hopefully that's not what they mean to imply.

    Also discussion of mythical creatures on EQD brings up an interesting point. Sphinx in Equestria... Human faced or pony faced?
    Well, 'mancer', as far as I can tell, is always related to some kind of magic learning style, like pyromancy or necromancy or astromancy or stuff. The 'mech' part makes me think that she's a 'mechanicle-mancer', which would make sense, considering her special power is having a giant robot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tectonic Robot View Post
    Well, 'mancer', as far as I can tell, is always related to some kind of magic learning style, like pyromancy or necromancy or astromancy or stuff. The 'mech' part makes me think that she's a 'mechanicle-mancer', which would make sense, considering her special power is having a giant robot...
    yes yes, I am not questioning the "-mancer" part, it's just that if you go with "-mancer" then the question is what is "Mechro"? and If you go with "Mech-" then it becomes "Mech-Romancer".

    'course if some how time is involved then we could have a portmanteau of "Mech", "Chrono", "mancer".
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    Maybe they added the 'ro' bit just to make it sounds fancier? Like, Mechmancer doesn't have the same zing as Mechromancer. Mechromancer! Mechromancer~ Mechro...MANCER???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tectonic Robot View Post
    Maybe they added the 'ro' bit just to make it sounds fancier? Like, Mechmancer doesn't have the same zing as Mechromancer. Mechromancer! Mechromancer~ Mechro...MANCER???

    See... see what I mean?
    I know what you mean, and I know that's what they likely did. I was poking fun at superfluous wording change. Proper term would have been Mecha-Mancer, or even Mechano-mancer. (which is in itself a made up word anyway, but atleast conforms to proper protmanteau structure.)

    or maybe... just maybe, they intentionally meant to imply mecha romance?

    Anyway, back to pony.
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    I believe it to be a play on Necromancer, but with Mech instead.
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    Though knowing ponythread, someone has long since linked this.
    Heh, quite a number of them to be sure.
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    I am not familiar with borderland terminology but "mechromancer"? what's a "mechro"? Unless they mean mech-romancer... ummm....hopefully that's not what they mean to imply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tectonic Robot View Post
    Well, 'mancer', as far as I can tell, is always related to some kind of magic learning style, like pyromancy or necromancy or astromancy or stuff. The 'mech' part makes me think that she's a 'mechanicle-mancer', which would make sense, considering her special power is having a giant robot...
    In point of fact, historically a [something]mancer was someone who did divination with the [something] - so, for instance, a pyromancer would read the future from flames, and a necromancer would question the dead, and so on.

    As for sphinxes, I believe the human head in our world is to indicate intelligence, so probably an Equestrian sphinx would have a pony head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balmas View Post
    I believe it to be a play on Necromancer, but with Mech instead.
    That... that is brilliant!
    Raise/Binding human souls to mechanical bodies? Mecha-liches? (wait... that sounds familiar.....)

    edit: And apparently, that's precisly what they meant

    double edit: Tried to draw a Pony Sphinx.... looks a lot like the offspring of a griffin and pony.....
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    What makes g1 different from current g4?
    - They have humans, like Megan, Witches and Knights.
    - Ponies were average homesteader-like people (AKA not kingdom).
    - Sea Ponies
    - Gnomes, Elves (rumor) and fluff thingies.
    P.S- Which one should be included in Season 3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairaven View Post
    would be great if a secret easter egg turn you into a pony when you fill up every pony related skills.
    Made of diamonds?

    Also discussion of mythical creatures on EQD brings up an interesting point. Sphinx in Equestria... Human faced or pony faced?
    Technically, Manticore is supposed to be human faced, too, and we all know how it turned out...
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