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    Personally I do not think AB chose the first cutie mark either, and certainly not the ones that followed. She just wanted a cutie mark, any cutie mark, and she got one. If she had been able to choose any cutie mark to start with, I do not believe she would have picked the loopty hoop.

    Edit: It's the classic "be careful what you wish for, because no matter how smart you thought you were when you worded the wish the genie is still going to twist it somehow and screw you over"
    But it is odd that Applebloom already had a loopty-hoop. Or, at least we assume she did, unless she lied about the whole story. What are the odds? But, if anybody performs tricks like that, it'll be Scootaloo.

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    This was by far the most fun I've had yet. The humans spotted two big UFO's and tried to take one of them down. The nearly got swatted out of the sky but instead of backing off they followed them to an island off of Austrailia. Both UFO's landed right beside each other.

    Naturally they decided to show no mercy and sent my team in. We got there at night and HQ said we could wait for dawn but we're not some hatchlings with egg on our beaks! The dark doesn't scare us at all! So we told HQ to buck off and we went in.

    It was those green guys, and let me tell you, these guys do not know how to die. Twice I saw them get shot or blown up and watched them stand right back up. Didn't matter to us though cause we just killed them a second time! Still after the fight I checked them all one last time, and guess what? One was still alive. But not for long ;).

    Anyways I personally pegged two but there was a over a dozen to go around. I have to say my team really impressed me. Nopony backed down and everypony carried their weight. We were like the griffon warriors of legend working together perfectly and making sure that every time they showed their stupid green faces we'd blast them with a wave of plasma fire! Despite our awesomeness we still lost our tank scouting the top floor and me and Cloudkicker took a bomb to the face. Don't worry about us though, we're too tough to even be hurt by such weak explosion.

    HQ still wants us to check in though so have fun cleaning up the other ship! Oh almost forgot. We picked up so much sweet loot that we didn't have room for a new tank! We transferred a bunch of it to the Europe base but we still need to build a new storage room before we get our new tank.

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    Why I am feeling that Alicorns might be creation of Discord? I mean he's god of chaos (AKA jumbled up traits from Unicorn, Pegasus and Ponies), and he probably come after the creation of Equestria by Three Pony Tribes?

    P.S- I just found my favorite 2 mad gods, Sheogorath and Discord. So, who's the most craziest dude of 2; Sheogorath or Discord?
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    Why I am feeling that Alicorns might be creation of Discord? I mean he's god of chaos (AKA jumbled up traits from Unicorn, Pegasus and Ponies), and he probably come after the creation of Equestria by Three Pony Tribes?
    Cadance would at present pose a problem with that like most Alicorn theories.

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    Cadance would at present pose a problem with that like most Alicorn theories.
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    Not really. If you watch the spoiler video, you can see that the crystal ponies have been gone for a thousand years, so it's plausible that Cadence was trapped.

    ...Except that she was Twilight's foalsitter. Crap.
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    Dear Twilight,

    Today we received horrible news! It seems some of the humans have begun to surrender to the aliens! How could they! Well if they think we're going to protect their grubby little country anymore then they are just just...ARRRGH!

    Besides that took on an entirely new species today. Due to their fancy orange cloaks and flying abilities I decided to call the Ethereals! It was also the first field test of our new psionic abilities. It didn't go well. No matter how hard we tried we could mind control anyone. Perhaps we need more training? Spikey Wikey did capture one so hopefully we'll get some answers about this new species soon.

    Sincerely,

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    Australia abandoned me and right after I took out that very large ship too!

    I messed up on which order I killed those ships though. After I killed the big one every other one took off and scattered. Couldn't catch any of them so I think they fled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balmas View Post
    ...Except that she was Twilight's foalsitter. Crap.
    Pretty much. Even putting aside that occupation (Princess's there are not bound by our expectations of association!) having grown up much roughly along with Twilight precludes for now that Alicorns have some super-special-awesome origin or whatever.

    I got over this kinda of thinking with Heath's Warming Eve personally. With Equestria well predating Celestia/Luna its just plain hard to ascribe the breed more deistic characteristics like was fairly common before.

    Now we know from a few months back Cadance is involved in events so they may be changing this in someway... but she still largely precludes a unified theory as it will need to have her particular exception to it.

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    Dear Twilight,

    Today we received horrible news! It seems some of the humans have begun to surrender to the aliens! How could they! Well if they think we're going to protect their grubby little country anymore then they are just just...ARRRGH!

    Besides that took on an entirely new species today. Due to their fancy orange cloaks and flying abilities I decided to call the Ethereals! It was also the first field test of our new psionic abilities. It didn't go well. No matter how hard we tried we could mind control anyone. Perhaps we need more training? Spikey Wikey did capture one so hopefully we'll get some answers about this new species soon.

    Sincerely,

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    Australia abandoned me and right after I took out that very large ship too!

    I messed up on which order I killed those ships though. After I killed the big one every other one took off and scattered. Couldn't catch any of them so I think they fled.

    Are Hyperwave decoders detection 100%? I just finished building one in each base and I was wondering if I needed more.
    It's always been the assumption I've worked off. I'm not sure on the range but in my experience they work. Also, Ethereals are not exactly the best ruler to judge mind control off of. They are the elite warriors for a reason.

    At least Australia isn't that great as far as cash goes. Still is unfortunate to lose any factions to the aliens.
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    Dear Twilight,

    Today we received horrible news! It seems some of the humans have begun to surrender to the aliens! How could they! Well if they think we're going to protect their grubby little country anymore then they are just just...ARRRGH!

    Besides that took on an entirely new species today. Due to their fancy orange cloaks and flying abilities I decided to call the Ethereals! It was also the first field test of our new psionic abilities. It didn't go well. No matter how hard we tried we could mind control anyone. Perhaps we need more training? Spikey Wikey did capture one so hopefully we'll get some answers about this new species soon.

    Sincerely,

    Rarity Unicorn


    Australia abandoned me and right after I took out that very large ship too!

    I messed up on which order I killed those ships though. After I killed the big one every other one took off and scattered. Couldn't catch any of them so I think they fled.

    Are Hyperwave decoders detection 100%? I just finished building one in each base and I was wondering if I needed more.
    Yeah, one hyperwave decoder per base is 100% and gives you way more info about each ship, including it's mission. Also, just so you know, what happened with that mass of ships was probably an infiltration mission. If the battleship was coming in to land, you had already lost Australia, even if you had shot down every UFO before it landed. It triggers the withdrawawl from X-com as soon as the ships enter Earth atmosphere. I recommend you send an interceptor to go circle the Australian continent for a few hours. I'd bet there's an alien base around there somewhere now.

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    Pretty much. Even putting aside that occupation (Princess's there are not bound by our expectations of association!) having grown up much roughly along with Twilight precludes for now that Alicorns have some super-special-awesome origin or whatever.

    I got over this kinda of thinking with Heath's Warming Eve personally. With Equestria well predating Celestia/Luna its just plain hard to ascribe the breed more deistic characteristics like was fairly common before.

    Now we know from a few months back Cadance is involved in events so they may be changing this in someway... but she still largely precludes a unified theory as it will need to have her particular exception to it.
    It's possible that the deity power exists independently from its wielder. There might have been others, such as whoever the "unicorns" were in the play that actually did the sun and moon raising. It could be that Celestia and Luna came into the power and are thus like deities now, but that the power itself is independent from them.

    Also, recall that the only references in the show to alicorns have called them unicorns. So, just because the play tells us that the "unicorns" controlled the sun and moon doesn't mean there weren't any alicorns around back then. It's just really unlikely it was Celestia and Luna because they seem way to nice to withhold their services from the pegasi and earth ponies. Though, then again, maybe Celestia mellowed out over her thousand years of rule.
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    Alternate theory: Alicorns draw power from their special talent. For example, Celestia draws power and vitality from the sun; this is why she and Luna are so long-lived and so powerful. They've got millenia of power stored up, and no real occasion to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balmas View Post
    Alternate theory: Alicorns draw power from their special talent. For example, Celestia draws power and vitality from the sun; this is why she and Luna are so long-lived and so powerful. They've got millenia of power stored up, and no real occasion to use it.
    So, Celestia is Cyclops, from X-men, only what he would be if he lived for ages? I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarion View Post
    So, Celestia is Cyclops, from X-men, only what he would be if he lived for ages? I like it.
    Other things this theory explains:

    a) difference between Season 1 Luna and Season 2 Luna. After the ordeal with the purification by the Elements, Luna was left with very little power. Thus, she reverted to her less powerful, normal-sized original form. After almost a year of absorbing moonlight, she returned to her former, powerful glory.

    b) Cadence is a young alicorn. She hasn't done much, and hasn't absorbed much love. However, we can observe that when given the appropriate supply, she can use it to great effect.


    Faults: Celestia was Warf'd by about a month's worth of love. Possible explanation is that love is just that good, but I don't think it would cut it against a millenium of sunlight.

    Fault 2: Season three shall destroy all fanon.
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    Dear Celestia,

    We really have to stop getting shot. I know we've only got minor injuries and should be checked out tomorrow but why does it seem that we only meet inside the infirmary? You of course were shot by surprise when we were tracking down the last of the resistance inside the base. I was stuck infront of two of the newly dubbed 'Mutons' and put up a force field that didn't quite hold. Still 4 out of 5 isn't bad!

    Gilda wasn't kidding though, these Mutons can take a lot of abuse before they die. On the other hand they don't have any psionic abilities and so far that's proven the most dangerous to us. Besides the Mutons they also had what I can only describe as floating tumors. We gunned them down, more because they creeped us out then any sense of danger.

    Trixie had a field day, getting into multiple gun fights, taking down enemy soldiers and even seized the command center! Her efforts even managed to keep our tank running, though damaged. This base was in Australia which explains why they surrendered. A shame we didn't spot it earlier in fact. Hopefully with time they'll recover but I doubt that will be anytime soon.

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    Cadance would at present pose a problem with that like most Alicorn theories.
    It's called inherited traits

    You know, like difference in size and pretty fur between Maine Cooon and common backyard cat :P

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    Alternate theory: Alicorns draw power from their special talent. For example, Celestia draws power and vitality from the sun; this is why she and Luna are so long-lived and so powerful. They've got millenia of power stored up, and no real occasion to use it.
    Big problem with this is just how easily Chrysalis beat Celestia, and frankly, we never saw Celestia do anything special. She couldn't handle Discord or Nightmare Moon either, she didn't do anything about dragon or Kong Spike - the only thing we ever see her cast is opening a lock. Yes, it's technically possible Celestia's power is tied in 99% in moving the sun, but for all we know, unicorns of old did it just as effortlessly. Even Rarity so far performed far greater feats of magic, to say nothing of Trixie or Twilight.

    Even the above 99% theory is extremely dubious, as Celestia took over the Moon too like it was nothing, and now that the Luna is back to move it she doesn't use the surplus for anything - hmm, maybe fan theory saying Moon/Sun in Equestria are just like ours and Unicorns/Alicorns are simply running a scam was right after all

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    Why I am feeling that Alicorns might be creation of Discord? I mean he's god of chaos (AKA jumbled up traits from Unicorn, Pegasus and Ponies), and he probably come after the creation of Equestria by Three Pony Tribes?
    I had same idea for a pic for the longest time ^^

    Would also explain Celestia's/Cadence's manes, and actually make Discord look scary for once, unlike what MLP writers did show us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarion View Post
    Also, recall that the only references in the show to alicorns have called them unicorns. So, just because the play tells us that the "unicorns" controlled the sun and moon doesn't mean there weren't any alicorns around back then. It's just really unlikely it was Celestia and Luna because they seem way to nice to withhold their services from the pegasi and earth ponies. Though, then again, maybe Celestia mellowed out over her thousand years of rule.
    The problem is that the writers said they were calling them pegacorns, until they saw 'alicorn' - the only place we see that calls them unicorns is, IIRC, Twilights book, probably written by unicorn (only truly literate species...) which might have been biased like that.

    Also, if the writers really adopted 'alicorn' I'll facepalm, this word really doesn't mean what first adopters thought it means
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    Big problem with this is just how easily Chrysalis beat Celestia, and frankly, we never saw Celestia do anything special. She couldn't handle Discord or Nightmare Moon either, she didn't do anything about dragon or Kong Spike - the only thing we ever see her cast is opening a lock. Yes, it's technically possible Celestia's power is tied in 99% in moving the sun, but for all we know, unicorns of old did it just as effortlessly. Even Rarity so far performed far greater feats of magic, to say nothing of Trixie or Twilight.

    Even the above 99% theory is extremely dubious, as Celestia took over the Moon too like it was nothing, and now that the Luna is back to move it she doesn't use the surplus for anything - hmm, maybe fan theory saying Moon/Sun in Equestria are just like ours and Unicorns/Alicorns are simply running a scam was right after all
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    Hmm. Some kind of mind-control story perhaps? Some of the ponies are acting strange with weird eyes, not unlike Shiny in the last S2 episode.

    I spotted Screwball! :D

    Edit: Page four, middle left. Blue Brothers ponies. YES.

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    So, remember that pic of the DVD cover where the mane 6 had crystal eye highlights? We now know for sure that the crystal ponies have the crystal eyes. So, what's the deal with the cover? Are they crystal pony changelings? Are the crystal ponies (there's gotta be a way to shorten that. CPs? CryPon? C Ponies? Oh, maybe not.) going to covert the mane 6? Perhaps being in the crystal kingdom slowly transforms one into crystal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    The problem is that the writers said they were calling them pegacorns, until they saw 'alicorn' - the only place we see that calls them unicorns is, IIRC, Twilights book, probably written by unicorn (only truly literate species...) which might have been biased like that.
    Also Twilight talking about Cadance.

    Additionally, your biases are showing. I am unaware of any valid reason to suppose that any given character is (either functionally or truly) illiterate, nor that unicorns have any higher rate of literacy or education than either other race.

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    Also, if the writers really adopted 'alicorn' I'll facepalm, this word really doesn't mean what first adopters thought it means
    This has come up before. Thing is, there is no single word in common parlance that expresses the idea of "horse with wings and magic horn". So what's the problem with repurposing a vaguely relevant word that doesn't get a lot of use? It's a bit like, oh, "computer", which was used in pre-electronic times to mean people who would sit and do calculations.
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    This has come up before. Thing is, there is no single word in common parlance that expresses the idea of "horse with wings and magic horn". So what's the problem with repurposing a vaguely relevant word that doesn't get a lot of use? It's a bit like, oh, "computer", which was used in pre-electronic times to mean people who would sit and do calculations.
    Exactly.

    Besides, given that "alicorn" generally refers to the horn, why can't the Equestrian entemology refer to the fact that the Princesses have larger and more powerful/magical horns?

    Also, if by first adopters, Trixie, do you mean Piers Antony in 1984...? A cursory wiki examination shows that "alicorn" has been used - as a nonstandard usage, granted - to refer to winged unicorns in more than one work of literature in the last thirty years, well before bronies, so really all pony has done as popularise it.

    And unlike the other (ugly-looking and sounding) portmandeaus of unicorn and pegasus, alicorn is at least a real word. (And alicorn's usage in this context predates them too.)
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    I think Tony Stark and Dr. Yinsen won't mind if I combine their lines into a single quote.

    "That thing can run your heart for fifty lifetimes... or something big for fifteen minutes."

    I hope that explains my take on the explanation eloquently enough.
    But the problem here is Celestia according to fans is doing it backwards: "My power can run something huge for millennium - or very little for five minutes." Which frankly doesn't make sense at all...

    Also Twilight talking about Cadance.
    Headcanon - Unicorns think themselves so far above others calling someone unicorn is highest mark of approval

    Or maybe Twilight Cadance being unicorn was offhand remark that was supposed to flow freely and indicate her similarity to Shining, it certainly wasn't her trying to be scientifically accurate. Also, technically, S1 opening refers to them as 'regal sisters' using 'unicorn powers' so it's not like any authority called winged pegasus 'unicorn' specifically just yet.

    This has come up before. Thing is, there is no single word in common parlance that expresses the idea of "horse with wings and magic horn". So what's the problem with repurposing a vaguely relevant word that doesn't get a lot of use? It's a bit like, oh, "computer", which was used in pre-electronic times to mean people who would sit and do calculations.
    Because the word they used had for time immemorial very specific meaning - unicorn horn?

    It's like calling flying car "wheel" or calling quantum computer "printer" after one outlying part - you want new word, you should make one or repurpose something that makes sense, not take word you think looks good because you don't understand it and you didn't bothered to look what it actually means.

    there's gotta be a way to shorten that.
    We don't shorten earth ponies. Or do we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    It's like calling flying car "wheel" or calling quantum computer "printer" after one outlying part - you want new word, you should make one or repurpose something that makes sense, not take word you think looks good because you don't understand it and you didn't bothered to look what it actually means.
    Did you know that the word "print" originally meant "impression"? From the Latin premere, "to press". I doubt your quantum computer's printer does any kind of pressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kd7sov View Post
    Did you know that the word "print" originally meant "impression"? From the Latin premere, "to press". I doubt your quantum computer's printer does any kind of pressing.
    Yes, it does - fires supersonic dots of ink or lasers on page, leaving impressions. Not to mention impact printers I grew with

    Also, my point was printer not does computing, nor wheel flying, exactly like winged unicorns defining trait being wings, not horn.

    Besides, given that "alicorn" generally refers to the horn, why can't the Equestrian entemology refer to the fact that the Princesses have larger and more powerful/magical horns?
    Would you call humans 'fingers'?

    Their defining trait is not only not horn, but wings, but also their horns are not that special - Blueblood, IIRC, has horn longer than both Cadance and Luna, only slightly smaller than Celestia itself.

    Also, if by first adopters, Trixie, do you mean Piers Antony in 1984...? A cursory wiki examination shows that "alicorn" has been used - as a nonstandard usage, granted - to refer to winged unicorns in more than one work of literature in the last thirty years, well before bronies, so really all pony has done as popularise it.
    I actually read that book - and in it, it's off hand term used in obscure magic setting that evolved independently from modern earth and where language difference is big plot point through the series. Seeing MLP uses modern English vocabulary, it IMHO makes as much sense as calling unicorns 'Jedi' because they can do telekinesis and mind tricks too.

    And unlike the other (ugly-looking and sounding) portmandeaus of unicorn and pegasus, alicorn is at least a real word. (And alicorn's usage in this context predates them too.)
    Yes. It's a real word that in alchemical context means unicorn horn cut/powdered and for sale. Unless we assume ponies have no problems with doing so (after all, Rarity filed hers...) it brings as much unfortunate implications to pony mind as calling someone's backside sirloin steak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    Also, my point was printer not does computing, nor wheel flying, exactly like winged unicorns defining trait being wings, not horn.
    Alicorn is a portmanteau: Ali- is a common English prefix that comes from the latin "ala", wing. -Corn comes strait of Latin - "cornus", horn. Alicorn literally means wing-horn. If anything, the alchemists were using the word wrong.

    And really, emphasis on the were using it. There aren't any alchemists about, so the word has effectively entered the semantic Public Domain and can be taken up and changed by anyone who comes across it.
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    Pretty much. Even putting aside that occupation (Princess's there are not bound by our expectations of association!) having grown up much roughly along with Twilight precludes for now that Alicorns have some super-special-awesome origin or whatever.

    I got over this kinda of thinking with Heath's Warming Eve personally. With Equestria well predating Celestia/Luna its just plain hard to ascribe the breed more deistic characteristics like was fairly common before.

    Now we know from a few months back Cadance is involved in events so they may be changing this in someway... but she still largely precludes a unified theory as it will need to have her particular exception to it.
    My personal headcannon is that alicorns are immortal, but Cadance's immortality, unlike that of her aunts, works as a continual reincarnation cycle, which allows her to experience love with regular ponies during each of her individual lifetimes.

    As for Celestia's...less than stellar combat record, I explain that as A) Nightmare Moon's power having been greatly enhanced by her transformation, B) Discord is simply too powerful for anything short of the Elements of Harmony, and C) Celestia held too much of her power back when fighting Chrysalis due to her being in the middle of Canterlot (i.e. Celestia's combat power comes in two settings; regular unicorn and dragon slave-esq destruction, with nothing inbetween).
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    As for Celestia's...less than stellar combat record, I explain that as A) Nightmare Moon's power having been greatly enhanced by her transformation, B) Discord is simply too powerful for anything short of the Elements of Harmony, and C) Celestia held too much of her power back when fighting Chrysalis due to her being in the middle of Canterlot (i.e. Celestia's combat power comes in two settings; regular unicorn and dragon slave-esq destruction, with nothing inbetween).
    My assumption is that in the former case, she didn't want to hurt Luna, and as with the later incidents, Celestia is afraid of her own power. My headcanon is that - after a thousand years of raising both stellar bodies and running the country single-hoofedly - she's basically WAAY high level because that the thousand extra years of experience puts her well beyond Luna in terms of power (or at least application of said power if not raw strength).

    But, because of the things she's had to do to protect the ponies, especially during the early years of Luna's banishment, she's completely terrified of letting loose, and she just can't bring herself to unleash her full power, because of what she thinks she might do unintentionally - or even intentionally, lost in a battle-rage.

    And that mental block (and their attendant psychological issues) is what the problem is. It's compounded by the fact she wants the ponies to be able to grow and stand up for themselves, meaning she tries to take a more hooves-off approach anyway (and because at the back of her mind, she's not sure she can trust herself with all that power). All this means she hasn't let her full power out in centuries, and it would take a particularly horrible emotional event for her to circumnavigate those barriers and realise that she can handle her powers, safely, and without losing herself or her perspective and realise that she does have the maturity and strength of character now to take a more active role, because she would know when to stop.

    Of course, she has never told anyone about this, for political reasons and because she's never really had a confident or equal while Luna has been banished (and a thousand years of habit are hard to break even with her sister back.)

    (This line of thinking was even a nominal plot point in that fanfic I'll likely never write.)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    We don't shorten earth ponies. Or do we?
    No, I guess not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alabenson View Post
    My personal headcannon is that alicorns are immortal, but Cadance's immortality, unlike that of her aunts, works as a continual reincarnation cycle, which allows her to experience love with regular ponies during each of her individual lifetimes.
    I like this. Headcanon accepted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    Edit: Changing the subject completely, my sister's rabbit disappeared the other night, and today her husband found some fur which suggests foxes got at her. The rabbit was a combination birthday and wedding present from my other sister; and it's particularly sad since she was a rescue rabbit, and the baby rabbit she had with her had to be put down because of ill-health. My sister is understandably feeling a bit low at the moment. Perhaps ponythread could suggest some pictures which I could send to her to cheer her up a bit?
    Some Fluttershy and Angel pictures perhaps? Or would that be a little insensitive? (large image)
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    Very nice! I like the bit where.... wait a sec...




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    I am excited for this comic on this premise alone.
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    And unlike the other (ugly-looking and sounding) portmandeaus of unicorn and pegasus, alicorn is at least a real word. (And alicorn's usage in this context predates them too.)
    Yeah it does sure beat 'pegacorn' which is about the only thing other then alicorn I've heard using a single word.

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