Can a Rogue PrC into a Techsmith?

**The LOBster** · 2012-10-01, 08:06 PM (ISO 8601)

I know, I already made a thread about Ferrus Pax (My Warforged Crusader/unarmed tank), but now I need to know if Rogues (like my Shifter, Kaya) can PrC into Techsmith. It sounds like what I saw her 4E class (An Artificer) to be, and it seems like it could be a good fit for her character. Unfortunately, it requires a spell, apparently.

**Answerer** · 2012-10-01, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)

Not just any spell, but minor creation, a 4th-level spell. You're going to have a very hard time getting that without being a straight spellcaster. In any event, the PrC's not very good, particularly for someone who isn't a primary spellcaster. Artificer/Techsmith might be OK.

There is an Artificer class in 3.5, you know, in Eberron Campaign Setting. It's quite good.

**The LOBster** · 2012-10-01, 08:20 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Answerer

Not just any spell, but minor creation, a 4th-level spell. You're going to have a very hard time getting that without being a straight spellcaster. In any event, the PrC's not very good, particularly for someone who isn't a primary spellcaster. Artificer/Techsmith might be OK.

There is an Artificer class in 3.5, you know, in Eberron Campaign Setting. It's quite good.

I know of the 3.5 Artificer, but unfortunately, Shifters have some nasty penalties to charisma and intelligence.

**Answerer** · 2012-10-01, 08:36 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by The LOBster

I know of the 3.5 Artificer, but unfortunately, Shifters have some nasty penalties to charisma and intelligence.

Ah, well then. Yeah, unfortunately Shifters are a decidedly poor race in 3.5. Net -2 in exchange for an opportunity to shift 1/day to get +2 to something... bringing you to the same net-0 every other race has by default.

Anyway, beyond very low levels, you can probably play a Shifter Artificer OK enough anyway. The penalties only amount to a -1 anyway. Ranks are going to counteract that quickly anyway.

**HunterColt22** · 2012-10-02, 12:22 PM (ISO 8601)

Net 0 is better than -1 or -2 depending on who you ask about the warforged scout. It doesn't even list their slam attack anywhere in MM3, thus suggesting they dont get one at all.

**hex0** · 2012-10-07, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)

I played a Rogue/Wizard/Techsmith and it was quite fun. Not high powered, but fun.

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