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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine View Post

    Anyway if it's still available I say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeGuitarrem View Post
    Currently unavailable. Great One doesn't let you go into any other settings; you'd have to cut back to Follower for that.
    In that case, just Call it Quits.
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    A missing hand? Pah!

    Great one.
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    More lifepaths aren't really so much unweildy. They just generate an extra number to add into the pool.
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    Why quit when you're ahead? are you chicken?!?!

    I vote:
    Great one

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    Get nasty or die trying!


    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeGuitarrem View Post
    Yeah, sorry I didn't clear that out better. The main reason I encouraged people to keep taking new lifepaths was that, well, a lifepath limit is a limit, and orcs take more than four lifepaths to really shine.
    That's okay, I understand.
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    I don't know what Servant of the Gate is, but it sounds cool, so

    Servant of the Gate

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    Quote Originally Posted by GungHo, on Battletech
    The Atlas is also goofy but it has that whole "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" menacing smile thing going for it. The guy who drew that one up was obviously taken to the Nutcracker when he was a child... and he was screaming in terror the entire time.
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    Glyphstone, out of all the playground I think you scare me the most...
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    Glyphstone, you are an evil person :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    I don't know what Servant of the Gate is, but it sounds cool, so

    Servant of the Gate

    Call It Quits
    Servant of the Gate effectively involves hard labor.

    Also, doubling up on Great One....oh man. Lifepaths diminish in value after the second time you take them, but taking it a mere twice is gonna get us a filthy rich (or connected) orc. With lots of stat boosts. That's quite the interesting option. (Incidentally, taking it a third time is still better than a lot of orc lifepaths. It's a veritable jackpot in many ways.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeGuitarrem View Post
    Servant of the Gate effectively involves hard labor.

    Also, doubling up on Great One....oh man. Lifepaths diminish in value after the second time you take them, but taking it a mere twice is gonna get us a filthy rich (or connected) orc. With lots of stat boosts. That's quite the interesting option. (Incidentally, taking it a third time is still better than a lot of orc lifepaths. It's a veritable jackpot in many ways.)
    Oh. Never mind. Changing my vote, then, to

    Great One II

    Call It Quits
    Quote Originally Posted by GungHo, on Battletech
    The Atlas is also goofy but it has that whole "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" menacing smile thing going for it. The guy who drew that one up was obviously taken to the Nutcracker when he was a child... and he was screaming in terror the entire time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enterti, Cogidubnus
    Glyphstone, out of all the playground I think you scare me the most...
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    Glyphstone, you are an evil person :D

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    Yeah, I'm changing my vote too.

    Great One II

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    Great One II it is! Now let's get to that Die of Fate roll...

    Behold the tempting of FATE!!!! Remember, next Die of Fate puts an entire limb at risk...
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    It's a 4...how much longer will our luck hold out??


    Anyhow, same options as before. You can re-take Follower, go into Servant of the Gate, or repeat Great One (for a diminished return this time). Or call it quits.
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    Go big or go home.

    Great One III

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    After this though I think we are good on Life Paths.
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    What are we risking to lose this time? At the moment, my vote stands for

    1. Great One III
    2. Call it Quits

    We've already gone this far. Why not get some more connections?
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    Yeah, lets take 1 more shot.

    Great One III
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    But after this, we're done.
    Quote Originally Posted by GungHo, on Battletech
    The Atlas is also goofy but it has that whole "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" menacing smile thing going for it. The guy who drew that one up was obviously taken to the Nutcracker when he was a child... and he was screaming in terror the entire time.
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    Glyphstone, out of all the playground I think you scare me the most...
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    Glyphstone, you are an evil person :D

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    Great One v3.0
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    What else were you expecting?
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    What are we risking to lose this time?
    An entire limb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saph
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeGuitarrem View Post
    An entire limb.
    What are the odds that our Mekboyz will be able to fashion us a steam-powered clockpunk arm to replace our lost one?

    That's probably, like, a Circles check, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeGuitarrem View Post
    An entire limb.
    Hmm... a leg would be annoying, but I think I'll keep my vote. She's gotta have something to identify her after all this status increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelphas View Post
    Hmm... a leg would be annoying, but I think I'll keep my vote. She's gotta have something to identify her after all this status increase.
    Missing an arm. In its place there is a heavy chain connecting to the collar of a nasty, lobotomized troll pup called "Right Hand".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xefas View Post
    What are the odds that our Mekboyz will be able to fashion us a steam-powered clockpunk arm to replace our lost one?

    That's probably, like, a Circles check, right?
    XD

    Yeah.....Circles Ob 10?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Analysis View Post
    Missing an arm. In its place there is a heavy chain connecting to the collar of a nasty, lobotomized troll pup called "Right Hand".
    ... If there is any possible way at all of buying this, it should happen. That's simply wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelphas View Post
    ... If there is any possible way at all of buying this, it should happen. That's simply wonderful.
    I'm trying to figure it. It'd certainly be possible to put a resources price on it. What's more tricky is giving our orc the skills needed to control the troll. Otherwise, she's in for a bad time... (knowing how to speak Troll is actually outside of the confines of her lifepaths; only the Troll Lord orcs have acquired that skillset, because they work day in and day out with trolls)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saph
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeGuitarrem View Post
    I'm trying to figure it. It'd certainly be possible to put a resources price on it. What's more tricky is giving our orc the skills needed to control the troll. Otherwise, she's in for a bad time... (knowing how to speak Troll is actually outside of the confines of her lifepaths; only the Troll Lord orcs have acquired that skillset, because they work day in and day out with trolls)
    What we need is a relationship with a Troll Lord, then, in addition to a lobotomized Troll named 'My Right Hand'. We will call him "Brain", and he will sit on our shoulders.

    Then, we may proceed with the astoundingly efficient mechanism of yelling "Brain! Tell 'My Right Hand' to punch that guy!"

    I have no idea how this would interact with the fighting mechanics, but your enemies should probably have to check for hesitation, just from sheer confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xefas View Post
    What we need is a relationship with a Troll Lord, then, in addition to a lobotomized Troll named 'My Right Hand'. We will call him "Brain", and he will sit on our shoulders.

    Then, we may proceed with the astoundingly efficient mechanism of yelling "Brain! Tell 'My Right Hand' to punch that guy!"

    I have no idea how this would interact with the fighting mechanics, but your enemies should probably have to check for hesitation, just from sheer confusion.
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    Why do I have a feeling that a three-times Great One just has enough resources to make a situation like that real?
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    IIRC, it is suggested that sidekicks are burned up as lesser characters with fewer lifepaths. My Right Hand could perhaps take Vile Speech or something like that. Alternately, I guess the chain could be enchanted to provide the Troll Speech trait.

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    I actually had to think about this one for a while, but then I realised that we are basically taking more risk for less gain, what's not to like about that?

    1. Great One

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analysis View Post
    IIRC, it is suggested that sidekicks are burned up as lesser characters with fewer lifepaths. My Right Hand could perhaps take Vile Speech or something like that. Alternately, I guess the chain could be enchanted to provide the Troll Speech trait.
    That is an excellent solution, actually. If anyone has the Monster Burner, could you look into that? Just in case people want to sink resources into that route, that is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix_of_Doom View Post
    I actually had to think about this one for a while, but then I realised that we are basically taking more risk for less gain, what's not to like about that?
    I like your attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeGuitarrem View Post
    That is an excellent solution, actually. If anyone has the Monster Burner, could you look into that? Just in case people want to sink resources into that route, that is.
    I had a player use that rule in a game I was running. Found it to be WAY powerful.
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    I'm going to vote
    1: Great One
    2: Cattle Slave
    3: Call it Quits


    Because it's not a risk, it's a class feature.

    Edit: +50 resources for Great One, Halved each time it's taken, we're up to +87 Resources with Great one III, and if we go Great one IV we get 93. Don't know if +6 is a big deal, as have never read the book :/

    Is 87+Other lifepath bonuses to Resources>100? If no, is 93+same>100?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeGuitarrem View Post
    I like your attitude.

    This is the stuff that Burning Wheel is made of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Guy View Post
    I had a player use that rule in a game I was running. Found it to be WAY powerful.
    Hate to bring D&D into this, but yea sounds a lot like leadership abuse.
    I suppose you can not abuse the rule if you try, but especially a character like this with plenty of resources to spend can probably buy a pretty powerful companion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix_of_Doom View Post
    Hate to bring D&D into this, but yea sounds a lot like leadership abuse.
    I suppose you can not abuse the rule if you try, but especially a character like this with plenty of resources to spend can probably buy a pretty powerful companion.
    Just speculating here, but I think it's more "powerful" than OP. I suspect. Gaining massive amounts of followers is not easy to do.

    ('course, this is also the game which reminds the GM and players to keep a check on munchkins. Possibly by applying blunt force with the rulebook. )

    Sounds cool to me, though, especially since it's not a regular game (where a player controlling two characters could get difficult to manage). So, we'll have that as an explicit option on the table when it comes time to purchase stuff.
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