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    And now for a case-study in why players die in this game...

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    That reminds me, is there a library of some sort in Aldhaven?, My character's here to research a myth he heard, and a library seems like a good place to start his search(and maybe looking around for bards and sages)
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    You should try and find that out IC... but yes there are 2 'public' libraries in Aldhaven, run by different groups. Best if you enjoy finding out in character who they are etc...
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    There are at least three libraries.
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    Aye, I more meant; is Aldhaven the sort of city that might have libraries, or are most villagers illiterate, with only nobles knowing how to read and write. You did answer the question though, and I will eventually work on finding them in IC(just wanted to check ahead of time to make sure they would at least know what a library/archive is)
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    Only classes specified as illiterate are illiterate. The vast majority of people aren't barbarians or totemists.
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    The way I handle it in my game the majority of commoners can't read and write by virtue of the Illiterate trait. +1 Profession is a halfpound of cheese and meat each and 5 loafs of bread per week for them. Sounds like a decent enough deal
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    Nah, not in Aldhaven. It's a capital city, after all. It would be shameful to have such an ignorant populace.
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    Ah, I'll probably have him ask around the plaza then(once I have time for a post in the IC)~nya
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    My character may will be looking for a BSF protection after this.... He could use someone who can take a few hits. Not necessarily a lot though, just enough to delay a foe... I may be jumping the gun with this but because of a few details about my character, he just can't take the risk.

    So, anyone up to the challenge?
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    Is it scary that I'm not really sure what he's talking about?

    That's part of why this game is so much fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizban View Post
    Is it scary that I'm not really sure what he's talking about?

    That's part of why this game is so much fun.
    ...........

    I have a feeling that this is the secret DM language for either:
    "The worse has yet to come"

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    "Dead PC walking here."
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    ...I think my poor Monkadin just went to go get drunk. That's not a natural thing for him to do, at all. Thanks bindin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindin garoth View Post
    ...........

    I have a feeling that this is the secret DM language for either:
    "The worse has yet to come"

    or

    "Dead PC walking here."
    Well depending on how unlucky you are it could be "Undead PC walking here." And then you get destroyed since your existence is suddenly illegal.

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    Wha? That's vitalism!

    Undead - Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindin garoth View Post
    My character may will be looking for a BSF protection after this.... He could use someone who can take a few hits. Not necessarily a lot though, just enough to delay a foe... I may be jumping the gun with this but because of a few details about my character, he just can't take the risk.

    So, anyone up to the challenge?
    I could always use new lackeys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindin garoth View Post
    ...........

    I have a feeling that this is the secret DM language for either:
    "The worse has yet to come"

    or

    "Dead PC walking here."
    Well, I can take a few hits if your still wanting to find the item in a party, I just don't have quite the AC for a full on tank. Hopefully you'll make it to the rendezvous.

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    Partying up still sounds good to me! I'm still en route....... let's just say I've encountered a hiccup
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    ...I think my poor Monkadin just went to go get drunk. That's not a natural thing for him to do, at all. Thanks bindin.

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    I am on my way to the meet-up. The enviroment is very friendly and I am making lots of friends. I would like to encourage everyone to try this quest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moranica View Post
    I could always use new lackeys.

    Question 1: Are you a gnome?
    Question 2: What is your goal in life?
    Question 3: How do you feel about sewers?
    I did forget to reply. Maz doesn't like to be called a lackey, and may end up playing pranks on you as a result.

    1. Gnome? *Raises pitchfork* I'm ready to hunt.
    2. Maz simply wants to.......... Grow his business of sorts..... Can't really say anything else on the subject.
    3. Maz would detest the sewers completely. He'd most likely avoid them, except for a job. Even then he'd try other routes first.
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    ...I think my poor Monkadin just went to go get drunk. That's not a natural thing for him to do, at all. Thanks bindin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindin garoth View Post
    I did forget to reply. Maz doesn't like to be called a lackey, and may end up playing pranks on you as a result.

    1. Gnome? *Raises pitchfork* I'm ready to hunt.
    2. Maz simply wants to.......... Grow his business of sorts..... Can't really say anything else on the subject.
    3. Maz would detest the sewers completely. He'd most likely avoid them, except for a job. Even then he'd try other routes first.
    I see, then I'm afraid your not yet the lackey Scribly is looking for. Perhaps sometime later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerter View Post
    I am on my way to the meet-up. The enviroment is very friendly and I am making lots of friends. I would like to encourage everyone to try this quest.
    I'm sorry, but due to circumstances out of my control, I will not be able to meet you at the [location X] today. Tomorrow (IC of course) I should be able to get there.
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    Admittedly, a lot of people didn't die simply because they stopped playing. Of those people who stuck around the whole time in the game, I imagine precious few didn't have at least one PC death. Even a lot of the game DMs, like Plans and Lokio. And some died several times, like Moranica (though it seems his current PC is sticking around).

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    My first character died after -winning- his first battle... and that was page 3 of his personal thread I think...

    Thats why I made my second one a paranoid lunatic...
    AvB has come and gone. Its spirit still lives on in the few active threads...

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    Chances of my death are increasing, even though the current encounter goes decently. At least I think there's a good chance my actions will net me an interesting obituary or mention in the Town Crier...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monodominant View Post
    My first character died after -winning- his first battle... and that was page 3 of his personal thread I think...

    Thats why I made my second one a paranoid lunatic...
    Sorry... I didn't mean to kill Ymeo... My character was in the Docks and decided to shoot first, hitting everyone in that combat, and ask questions/provide heals later. I didn't know you were so low on hit points.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFallenOne View Post
    Chances of my death are increasing, even though the current encounter goes decently. At least I think there's a good chance my actions will net me an interesting obituary or mention in the Town Crier...
    If you survive that fight, I can't wait to see how you handle the next event...
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    I survived!......... For now.

    Why do I feel like I'm celebrating too early?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizban View Post
    If you survive that fight, I can't wait to see how you handle the next event...
    I can't wait to see what exactly the event is

    Well, the fight wasn't that hard, though the guy had a trick somewhat inconvenient for my build. But I know there are tougher things in store...
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    I'm starting to lose all understanding of what is going on in this city. It feels like I've wandered into someone else's overly elaborate SNL skit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldurin View Post
    I'm starting to lose all understanding of what is going on in this city. It feels like I've wandered into someone else's overly elaborate SNL skit.
    That's not a fair comparison. Aldhaven actually has funny things happen in it sometimes.

    The nice thing is you can operate on whatever scale you like. You want to work citywide, do it. You want to just focus on one district, that's fine. You want to focus solely on personal-level work without even aligning to a faction, always an option. You can pretend there's no one else in this game, or interact with a new PC every week. Think about how few games make it past six months on this forum. Think about how many fewer still get any interest if they come back from a long hiatus. Why does this game have no issues with either problem? Because it's not one game. It's pretty much all games. It's a Rorschach test, you see in it what you want to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hustlertwo View Post
    That's not a fair comparison. Aldhaven actually has funny things happen in it sometimes.

    The nice thing is you can operate on whatever scale you like. You want to work citywide, do it. You want to just focus on one district, that's fine. You want to focus solely on personal-level work without even aligning to a faction, always an option. You can pretend there's no one else in this game, or interact with a new PC every week. Think about how few games make it past six months on this forum. Think about how many fewer still get any interest if they come back from a long hiatus. Why does this game have no issues with either problem? Because it's not one game. It's pretty much all games. It's a Rorschach test, you see in it what you want to see.
    I know, I'm not trying to harp on it. It's just that I'm pretty surprised by the depth and complexity of the place, and the fact that there's enough detail for events to run on their own without a PC being present. I'm just thrown off since I'm encountering some stuff that would never show up in the "PCs are the center of the universe" trope. It's really interesting and allows for an even more convoluted level of paranoia and preparation.

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