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    Unrelated note, but there's an idea that's being fielded for a game at the moment, involving a small group of Devil Tigers busting out of Hell and doing their best to avoid Yozi retribution for their actions. Which might involve running to the Unconquered Sun for sanctuary. Or any number of other possibilities.

    Mostly proposed because I'd love to see some potential RP involving the various power players in Exalted done well. And because the game is in need of a Storyteller, before I cave and sign myself up for running another game I almost certainly have no time to do properly. Blasted interesting ideas...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lix Lorn View Post
    So, I've been considering a terrible idea.

    Imagine no Green Sun Princes. Instead, the yozi have been creating Akuma with a little more freedom, letting their own personalities twist their goals, and allowing this freedom to render them safe if the Incarnae order them retreived.

    Would anyone be up for a game where you play Dragonblooded Akuma? Your urge would be a variation on 'Work towards the freedom and safety of (patron yozi) as best you can'

    This is just checking if there'd be interest.
    Of course there is Lix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lix Lorn View Post
    So, I've been considering a terrible idea.

    Imagine no Green Sun Princes. Instead, the yozi have been creating Akuma with a little more freedom, letting their own personalities twist their goals, and allowing this freedom to render them safe if the Incarnae order them retreived.

    Would anyone be up for a game where you play Dragonblooded Akuma? Your urge would be a variation on 'Work towards the freedom and safety of (patron yozi) as best you can'

    This is just checking if there'd be interest.
    Sounds like a nifty concept to me.
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    Could ageing/being old be considered a Crippling effect? Maybe Sickness?

    Could a stunt allow "curing" it with a Charm?
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    Aging and being old are intrinsic parts of a being, not a sickness or crippling effect. You could use mutations to extend someones life, or use certain life extending drugs, but you can't just stunt a medicine roll to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobold-Bard View Post
    Could ageing/being old be considered a Crippling effect? Maybe Sickness?

    Could a stunt allow "curing" it with a Charm?
    Nope, but Plague did some solar charms a while ago that basically made you ageless.
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    Well, I think I've just made the freakiest character I've yet made for exalted. He's a blind smelly fish person who navigates by echolocation and who infects people with contagious hallucinations by physical contact, as well as fleshwarping and summoning hideous mutants and demons. And he hangs out in swamps and is always hungry... always the hunger...
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    Seems decent, Golentan. Real family guy person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golentan View Post
    Well, I think I've just made the freakiest character I've yet made for exalted. He's a blind smelly fish person who navigates by echolocation and who infects people with contagious hallucinations by physical contact, as well as fleshwarping and summoning hideous mutants and demons. And he hangs out in swamps and is always hungry... always the hunger...
    So . . . an Infernal with Kimberry favored?

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    Seems like a good candidate for that one swamp based primordial. Starts with a m.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavar View Post
    Seems like a good candidate for that one swamp based primordial. Starts with a m.
    Metagaos? (Also known as "That Primordial Whose Jouten Is Totally Audrey")
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    So . . . an Infernal with Kimberry favored?
    Kimberian Dragonblooded Akuma.
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    Achem, I bet Meschlum could provide us with truth on that matter as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golentan View Post
    Kimberian Dragonblooded Akuma.
    For Lix's potential game? Has that started recruiting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maugan Ra View Post
    For Lix's potential game? Has that started recruiting?
    No it certainly has not. I'm not even sure I'm going to run it. (Although the feedback is pleasing, so I'm tempted.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maugan Ra View Post
    For Lix's potential game? Has that started recruiting?
    Yes, should she allow it if she does decide to run it. Though he's family unfriendly enough I'm working on an alternate character.
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    Bluh... I wish I had the Dragon-Blooded book. There's no way I'm getting it now, though, not with it being one of 3e's first books and 2e's badly balanced books.
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    Yeah, the DB book is problematic; I like it, but nearly every Charm ended up receiving errata, and for good reason.
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    No it certainly has not. I'm not even sure I'm going to run it. (Although the feedback is pleasing, so I'm tempted.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki Akuma View Post
    You totally should, because it's an awesome idea and makes you an awesome person.
    Pretty much this.

    And yeah, I do like the Dragon Blooded book and charms... but there were a lot of erratas made to it.

    Terrestrial Ability Reinforcement is still an awesome charm, though, especially when used on other members of a sworn brotherhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
    Yeah, the DB book is problematic; I like it, but nearly every Charm ended up receiving errata, and for good reason.
    Well, it was written really early on in the cycle. A lot of the later books were just better written from a mechanical point of view.
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    This raise an interesting question for 3E though. As Solars are once again the system baseline (since they are in core so everything will inevitably be compared to them) and DB are again early in the cycle: Will the same problems arise as with 2E?

    Power creep and system baseline meant Solars were the focus of most of the errata cycles. As mechanics changed or improved DB were left behind. Are we going to see Solars getting stealth errata in other people books every time someone has a cool idea? Are we going to see Solars getting propped up when the later books come out and the writing has gotten better and the mechanics tighter?

    No doubt 3E will start better than 2E is now. The question is will it suffer the same kinds of problems?
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    The problem with DBs wasn't that they were written early. It's that they were written before the core rules were finalized. This is why without errata many of their Charms don't make sense or just don't do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine View Post
    The problem with DBs wasn't that they were written early. It's that they were written before the core rules were finalized. This is why without errata many of their Charms don't make sense or just don't do anything.
    The Solar errata bloat is still a concern though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exthalion View Post
    Power creep and system baseline meant Solars were the focus of most of the errata cycles. As mechanics changed or improved DB were left behind. Are we going to see Solars getting stealth errata in other people books every time someone has a cool idea? Are we going to see Solars getting propped up when the later books come out and the writing has gotten better and the mechanics tighter?
    You know what charm cements Solar Power over Dragonblooded? I(A)M, which is in the core book. Well, it was that and the Perfects, which were also in the core book.

    There actually wasn't much power creep in Exalted, due to the design of the system.
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    I'm sort of interested in seeing a trend here: which is your preferred order of splats? Just interest-wise; not actually playing as them in 2e. Let's not chat about the topic until three or four people have already posted. Please and thank you.

    01) Infernals
    02) Dragonblooded
    03) Alchemicals
    04) Abyssals
    05) Dragon-Kings
    06) Spirits
    07) Lintha
    08) Raksha
    09) Sidereals
    10) Lunars
    11) Tyrant Lizards
    12) Mortals
    13) Godbloods (non-Lintha)
    14) Jadeborn
    15) Solars
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    I'm going to separate the list into groups to show when some are really close together.

    01)Alchemicals
    02)Dragon-Blooded
    03)Sidereals
    04)Infernals

    05)God-Bloods
    06)Spirits

    07)Solars

    08)Raksha
    09)Abyssals
    10)Dragon Kings

    11)Lunars
    12)Jadeborn

    13)Mortals

    That seems about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gensh View Post
    Let's not chat about the topic until three or four people have already posted.
    (grumble, grumble)

    This is as said stuff currently stands.
    01) Solars
    02) Infernals (non-DT)
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    These three are both awesome and amazingly versatile. I scoff at anyone who calls Solars boring. Especially you. Scoff, scoff. Having run Infernals, I know how awesome they are. Raksha are one of the most versatile toolboxes out there, of course.
    04) Abyssals
    05) Dragon-Blooded
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    07) Alchemicals
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    These four are both reasonably cool, but can be kinda niche cases sometimes. Sidereals, for instance, can make fun antagonists or companions for the circle, and their Charms are all kinds of fun, but it's a worrisome prospect to introduce them without dragging the game into Yu-Shan. Likewise with Abyssals and Alchemicals. I like Creation. It's an interesting place. Yes, the other places are there, and they're interesting, but for the most part, I see little reason to jettison a game there.

    Also, the whole "become a city at elder Essence" bit confuses me, or at least, the bit where people keep saying they want to play such.
    08) Demons
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    These aren't things I want to play, but that I find fun to read over from time to time.

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    The forums are what did it in for me, for Devil-Tigers. Like other elder Essence stuff, it's a very interesting prospect, but once this stuff was released, it's like everyone's in a race to get there.
    12) God-Blooded
    13) Elementals
    14) Gods (living in Creation)
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    Elementals seem fun, but I'd like to see more done with them. Gods living in Creation are in the same boat.
    15) Mortals
    16) Gods (living in Yu-Shan)
    17) Lunars
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    Mortals would be cool, had they not been in Scroll of Heroes. Lunars and Yu-Shan's gods both seem like they could have been fun, had the stuff for them not been so ****dark.
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    19) Raksha (using Shaping Combat)
    20) Ghosts
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    These are things that I absolutely don't want to play or even use; heck, it's probably going to take outright miraculous writing to get me to want to play these in 3e.
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    In order of preference and subdivided by category -

    Actually care about:
    01) Lunars
    02) Infernals
    03) Dragon-Kings
    04) Dragonblooded
    05) Sidereals
    06) Godbloods (non-Lintha)
    07) Spirits

    Indifferent/little interest in:
    08) Mortals
    09) Solars
    10) Alchemicals
    11) Abyssals

    Never thought about it:
    12) Tyrant Lizards
    13) Lintha [no idea what these are]
    14) Jadeborn

    Despise beyond belief:
    15) Raksha
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    Strong Favorites:

    1) Alchemicals
    2) Terrestrials
    3) Infernals/Sidereals (they're just about tied after errata)

    Like:
    5) Lunars

    Dislike Mildly:
    6) Spirits/Godblooded
    7) Solars
    8) Mortals of all stripes

    Strong Distaste:
    9) Abyssals
    10) Raksha

    Others (Ghosts, Jadeborn, Dragon Kings, Etc.) are unlisted due to insufficient information. Note that this is a commentary on what I like to play, not what I like as a setting piece.
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