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Thread: Versus Master Thread!
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2012-10-24, 11:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Versus Master Thread!
You read the title. This is the master thread for everything Versus. Here we can discuss anything about the Versus contests, including suggestions, and keeping track of the upcoming Versus Tournaments!
Versus Tournaments will be a group of similar classes, usually about 8 of them, that will be competing to see which is the best class in that category!
Following the theme of suggestions, the Versus tournament was actually suggested by a few of the people on Versus #4.
Winners of regular Versus thus far:
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2012-10-25, 12:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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First thing first: The very first Tournament will be Gish classes. Base classes only for now. If you have a suggestion for a class to put in this tournament, feel free to PM with it.
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2012-10-25, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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The search function being broken doesnt help this, but links to the round threads would be awesome
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2012-10-25, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Jade Phoenix mage wins, good day.
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2012-10-25, 02:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2012-10-25, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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PM me with the suggestions. And yes. Base Classes. As in they could take 20 levels in it.
Admiral Cranthis, Inventor of the Cranthis (Sandwich) and the Gnomish Paratroopers, and rider of Chuckles, the dire pig.
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2012-10-25, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2012-10-25, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Admiral Cranthis, Inventor of the Cranthis (Sandwich) and the Gnomish Paratroopers, and rider of Chuckles, the dire pig.
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2012-10-25, 02:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2012-10-25, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not telling you who is in the tournament, but Cleric will not be put in it.
Admiral Cranthis, Inventor of the Cranthis (Sandwich) and the Gnomish Paratroopers, and rider of Chuckles, the dire pig.
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2012-10-25, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Psionic count as gish to?
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2012-10-25, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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No Psionics. Remember, PM me with suggestions.
Admiral Cranthis, Inventor of the Cranthis (Sandwich) and the Gnomish Paratroopers, and rider of Chuckles, the dire pig.
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2012-10-25, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, so if we ignore the tier 1 classes and psionics, we have:
Bard
Paladin
Ranger (and the mystic version)
Factotum
Duskblade
Warlock (if we count SLA as spells)
Hexblade
Spellthief
Favoured Soul
Healer
And unless I am mistaken those are the only classes eligible under the current rules. So we need to eliminate 2."It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2012-10-25, 03:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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You don't have as many of the books as I do Boci. Those are no where near the the limits.
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2012-10-25, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Any base class from any book that you think would fit is suggest-able.
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2012-10-25, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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I was using the tier list, because I couldn't be bothered to go through all my books. Now that I think about it there are some divine ones from OA and the dragon magazine compendium. There are probably quite a few dragon magazine I missed since I don't own a single copy. What else did I miss that's noteworthy?
"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2012-10-25, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Battle Sorcerer
Dex
SpoilerRegarding my Necrotic Apprentice trick:
Regarding my Non-Epic Hidecarved Dragon:
Check out the Versatile Domain Generalist.
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2012-10-25, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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I would like to see a Whisperknife vs. a Master Thrower.
Not sure why...
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2012-10-25, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh yeah. Still I think tiers 1 and 2 should be excluded (and I doubt battle sorceror is enough of a nerf to drop the class down a tier), since their RAW power would focus the tournament on specific spell combinations, and I think there are enough threads that already do that.
"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2012-10-25, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Versus #5 is out now!
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2012-10-25, 05:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-25, 07:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Allright, I have officially started taking suggestions for Versus! I have written down in a program most of the suggestions sent to me, and I will continue to do so.
Also! Big news:
SpoilerVersus #7 and #8 are going to be "Fanmade!"
Submit your own two builds, that are appropriately challenged against each other, and they may make into Versus #7 or #8!
Please use the following chart:SpoilerNAME OF ENTRY
{table=head]Level|Class|Base Attack Bonus|Fort Save|Ref Save|Will Save|Skills|Feats|Class Features
1st|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
2nd|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
3rd|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
4th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
5th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
6th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
7th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
8th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
9th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
10th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
11th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
12th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
13th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
14th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
15th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
16th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
17th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
18th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
19th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
20th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities[/table]
Rules for builds: Explanation for both builds.
No "Pun-puns" they can be both be game breaking, but only go as far as you think you should.
No Psionics this time.
All builds welcome, please send in two. If you only make one build, I might put it against someone who has done a singular as well. But you will have to be lucky.
Other than that, just build em and submit em.
But please do try and make your builds different, but balanced vs each other.
Pm your builds. And as always, suggestions for regular Versus and Versus Tournaments are welcome.
Last edited by Cranthis; 2012-10-25 at 07:42 PM.
Admiral Cranthis, Inventor of the Cranthis (Sandwich) and the Gnomish Paratroopers, and rider of Chuckles, the dire pig.
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2012-10-25, 07:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Versus Master Thread!
Obviously the First fanmade one should be Paladin vs Ranger, all Material available barring ToB
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My Homebrew: found here.
When you Absolutely, Positively, Gotta Drop some Huge rocks, Accept NO Substitutes
PM Me if you would like a table from my homebrew reconstructed.
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2012-10-25, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Then go make that and submit it. There are no sources blocked this time.
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2012-10-25, 10:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Versus #7 and #8 are going to be "Fanmade!"
Submit your own two builds, that are appropriately challenged against each other, and they may make into Versus #7 or #8!
Please use the following chart:
NAME OF ENTRY
{table=head]Level|Class|Base Attack Bonus|Fort Save|Ref Save|Will Save|Skills|Feats|Class Features
1st|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
2nd|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
3rd|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
4th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
5th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
6th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
7th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
8th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
9th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
10th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
11th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
12th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
13th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
14th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
15th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
16th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
17th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
18th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
19th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
20th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities[/table]
Hit "Quote" and you can copy the code from there.
Rules for builds: Explanation for both builds.
No "Pun-puns" they can be both be game breaking, but only go as far as you think you should.
No Psionics this time.
All builds welcome, please send in two. If you only make one build, I might put it against someone who has done a singular as well. But you will have to be lucky.
Other than that, just build em and submit em.
But please do try and make your builds different, but balanced vs each other.
Pm your builds. And as always, suggestions for regular Versus and Versus Tournaments are welcome.Last edited by Cranthis; 2012-10-25 at 10:17 PM.
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They say Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so I hope you're flattered with this silly versus thread.
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2012-10-26, 03:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Versus #6 Out now!
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2012-10-27, 10:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Versus #7 is now out.
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