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    Default Enlarge Person's Str bonus?

    Why is it just +2? When you look at what monsters get from size increases by getting more HD, well, it's way more. Am I missing something?
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    Default Re: Enlarge Person's Str bonus?

    Yea, its a 1st level spell. Contrast with Bull Str, a 2nd level spell, which gives a +4 enhancement bonus. Enlarge Person gives a size bonus, which stacks with everything but Righteous Might. Also, EP gives the reach advantage which is 9/10 reasons to cast the spell.

    If it gave a normal size increase like the MM suggests, it would be WAY better than a 1st level spell. Probably 4th level, akin to Polymorph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    Yea, its a 1st level spell. Contrast with Bull Str, a 2nd level spell, which gives a +4 enhancement bonus. Enlarge Person gives a size bonus, which stacks with everything but Righteous Might. Also, EP gives the reach advantage which is 9/10 reasons to cast the spell.

    If it gave a normal size increase like the MM suggests, it would be WAY better than a 1st level spell. Probably 4th level, akin to Polymorph.
    I totally didn't think of any of that. That is, I was neglecting to keep in mind Enlarge Person is merely a 1st level power, focusing instead on the benefits of a size increase.

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    Default Re: Enlarge Person's Str bonus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    Yea, its a 1st level spell. Contrast with Bull Str, a 2nd level spell, which gives a +4 enhancement bonus. Enlarge Person gives a size bonus, which stacks with everything but Righteous Might. Also, EP gives the reach advantage which is 9/10 reasons to cast the spell.

    If it gave a normal size increase like the MM suggests, it would be WAY better than a 1st level spell. Probably 4th level, akin to Polymorph.
    Nah, Polymorph does way more than actual size bonus.

    I'd price Actual Enlarge person as 3rd level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck_II View Post
    Nah, Polymorph does way more than actual size bonus.

    I'd price Actual Enlarge person as 3rd level.
    Although it would be logical to expand its targeting to all types and therefore shove it up another spell level. Call it enlarge monster or something?
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