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    Maybe make him less the "action hero" and more the leader-type. Sean Connery seemed to do pretty well as he got older.
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    The question at work today was who will direct? I think either James Cameron, JJ Abrams or Joss Whedon.
    I figure if Abrams gets it he'll have both Star Wars AND Star Trek and will amass so much nerd power that he will go mad. Then only Joss Whedon will be able to stop him.
    Just remember that we're not the target audience of the films anymore. The new trilogy will be targeted, like all of the other Star Wars films were targeted, towards pre-adolescent boys. I'm not sure any of those directors will gear the films towards the target audience.

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    Just remember that we're not the target audience of the films anymore. The new trilogy will be targeted, like all of the other Star Wars films were targeted, towards pre-adolescent boys. I'm not sure any of those directors will gear the films towards the target audience.
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    Which is why Asoka was sporting large c-cups with a tube top.....
    And why Leia was in a bikini and loin cloth.
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    The new movie is set for a couple decades after Return of the Jedi, so they can't exactly look for a young guy to play a character who'd be at least in his late 40's and who is not a force user. Besides, re-watch the originals. They're not exactly based on physical stunts. The most Han Solo ever did was jog and fire a blaster.

    The biggest problem is that Harrison Ford has said in the past he wouldn't be interested. If he refuses, I back Nathan Fillion as the only other option.

    I swear to cow, if they cast some muscled-up he-man type as Han Solo, I will spill my Doritos all over my keyboard (Yay self-satirization!).
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    In The Essential Guide to Warfare, we find out that while she was very good in tests- her results tended to rely too much on attrition.

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    The question at work today was who will direct? I think either James Cameron, JJ Abrams or Joss Whedon.
    I figure if Abrams gets it he'll have both Star Wars AND Star Trek and will amass so much nerd power that he will go mad. Then only Joss Whedon will be able to stop him.
    Get real! The only real options we have are M. Night Shyamalan, Uwe Boll, or Paul W.S. Anderson.

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    Ok, so Huey, Dewey and Louie are Han and Leia's kids, which one is a sith lord?
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    Ok, so Huey, Dewey and Louie are Han and Leia's kids, which one is a sith lord?
    Huey. He's the one that wears red, and we know red is evil in Star Wars lore. Dewey (blue) and Louie (green) will be jedi.

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    Huey. He's the one that wears red, and we know red is evil in Star Wars lore. Dewey (blue) and Louie (green) will be jedi.
    But Donald wore blue and he's a Sith!
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    But Donald wore blue and he's a Sith!
    Unfortunately, Donald fell to the dark side. Not too surprising when you consider his anger.

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    Unfortunately, Donald fell to the dark side. Not too surprising when you consider his anger.
    I hope he force lightning's Chip and Dale.
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    The biggest problem is that Harrison Ford has said in the past he wouldn't be interested. If he refuses, I back Nathan Fillion as the only other option.
    Hard to see how Nathan Fillion would get cast. He has the lead role on Castle and the show is very likely to get at least one more season, meaning he'd be busy at least into mid-2014.
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    It'll be nice to see to have a movie that continues the story rather than a foregone conclusion backstory.
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    I would be thrilled about someone other than George Lucas working on Star Wars ...

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    i am over my initial shock...what i am concerned about at this very second is what will happen to the clone wars...i think its a fairly decent show and i dont want to see it go to Disney XD...i know Disney expressed interest in something similiar but will they make an all new show or port the current clone wars over? anyone know?

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    Okay guys so I found a report that this "Episode VII" will be "an original story" and explicitly not the Thrawn trilogy.

    So now then under the working premise that the EU is going to be definitively shattered in tiny pieces by a superlaser as the new movies will not be adapting matierial... what's the best/most-tolerable way to go about this?

    I see a range of options:

    1) Blow everything down to G canon as the only canon and build from there.

    2) As above but draw heavily on the old EU allowing the 'most important' characters to be rebooted as much the same characters in a new continuity.

    3) Pick and choose certain EU material arbitrarily as having still happened.

    4) Invalidate certain years ABY to place the new Trilogy in with only direct concflicts being thrown out (Example: Between Endor and Leia getting pregnant with Jania/Jacen)

    5) Set a certain point ABY to include all material before, nothing after. Have new events unfold from there. (Ex: Post Thrawn, Post-Dark Empire, Pre-Vong, etc)

    6) Screw even G canon and blow the whole thing to flinders with an Abram's Trek style reboot. (They're not planning that yet presumably but who's to say?)

    Any of these can include some really meaningless statements about alternate timelines or whatever if you feel that somehow mitigates things for you. They don't for me, but certainly the EU is positively stiff with stories post Endor so theres no way to put new stories in without some kind of damage. Possibly critical.

    Me I actually think I could even become a SW fan again as long as Thrawn exists, Luke marries Mara Jade, and the Solos have three kids named Jaina, Jacen, and Anakin.

    So I'm leaning toward 2/3/5, clear out the detritus but recognize the EU did manage repeatedly to top its source material. On the other hand I would weep few tears for the Vong unhappening along with everything that happened after that. Lord knows those masochists along with RotS killed my personal fandom collectively.

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    My issues with disney's legal department and their influence on copyright law aside, LucasFilm couldn't have gone to a better company. Worst case scenario, Star Wars only gets a little better than it was (Because nobody could make movies as bad as the prequel trilogy in that universe.) But Disney rarely goes worst case. There isn't a more competent studio in Hollywood to handle this.
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    On the other hand I would weep few tears for the Vong unhappening along with everything that happened after that. Lord knows those masochists along with RotS killed my personal fandom collectively.
    Yes, eliminating the Vong could only be a good thing, IMO. I know they were trying for something different, but did it have to be Vong different?
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    I would be thrilled about someone other than George Lucas working on Star Wars ...

    ... if only it wasn't Disney.
    I'm thrilled it is Disney. Like Talya said, there's no more competent studio in Hollywood to handle this.
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    I'm cautiously optimistic about it. I honestly think it's a good thing that George Lucas won't be heavily involved any more. And I think Disney will treat it with the respect it deserves.
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    Okay guys so I found a report that this "Episode VII" will be "an original story" and explicitly not the Thrawn trilogy.

    So now then under the working premise that the EU is going to be definitively shattered in tiny pieces by a superlaser as the new movies will not be adapting matierial... what's the best/most-tolerable way to go about this?

    I see a range of options:

    1) Blow everything down to G canon as the only canon and build from there.

    2) As above but draw heavily on the old EU allowing the 'most important' characters to be rebooted as much the same characters in a new continuity.

    3) Pick and choose certain EU material arbitrarily as having still happened.

    4) Invalidate certain years ABY to place the new Trilogy in with only direct concflicts being thrown out (Example: Between Endor and Leia getting pregnant with Jania/Jacen)

    5) Set a certain point ABY to include all material before, nothing after. Have new events unfold from there. (Ex: Post Thrawn, Post-Dark Empire, Pre-Vong, etc)

    6) Screw even G canon and blow the whole thing to flinders with an Abram's Trek style reboot. (They're not planning that yet presumably but who's to say?)

    Any of these can include some really meaningless statements about alternate timelines or whatever if you feel that somehow mitigates things for you. They don't for me, but certainly the EU is positively stiff with stories post Endor so theres no way to put new stories in without some kind of damage. Possibly critical.

    Me I actually think I could even become a SW fan again as long as Thrawn exists, Luke marries Mara Jade, and the Solos have three kids named Jaina, Jacen, and Anakin.

    So I'm leaning toward 2/3/5, clear out the detritus but recognize the EU did manage repeatedly to top its source material. On the other hand I would weep few tears for the Vong unhappening along with everything that happened after that. Lord knows those masochists along with RotS killed my personal fandom collectively.
    As cool as it would be to see some of the EU material on the big screen, I really doubt it will happen. The problem is that a lot of it just isn't all that great. It's not terrible, it's just mediocre. There were really only a few books that stood out as being really good.

    I think the best thing they could do with it would be to set Episodes 7+ far enough in the future that the EU material could still have happened, but there would be enough time since it happened that the world could conceivably take whatever shape they want it to take that might look nothing like the EU world. That would also help take care of having to get new actors for all the main characters if they set it shortly after RotJ.

    It's also not a fantastic idea to completely invalidate the EU because if it continues to exist and evolve, they'll continue to make money off of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soras Teva Gee View Post
    Okay guys so I found a report that this "Episode VII" will be "an original story" and explicitly not the Thrawn trilogy.

    So now then under the working premise that the EU is going to be definitively shattered in tiny pieces by a superlaser as the new movies will not be adapting matierial... what's the best/most-tolerable way to go about this?

    I see a range of options:

    1) Blow everything down to G canon as the only canon and build from there.

    2) As above but draw heavily on the old EU allowing the 'most important' characters to be rebooted as much the same characters in a new continuity.

    3) Pick and choose certain EU material arbitrarily as having still happened.

    4) Invalidate certain years ABY to place the new Trilogy in with only direct concflicts being thrown out (Example: Between Endor and Leia getting pregnant with Jania/Jacen)

    5) Set a certain point ABY to include all material before, nothing after. Have new events unfold from there. (Ex: Post Thrawn, Post-Dark Empire, Pre-Vong, etc)

    6) Screw even G canon and blow the whole thing to flinders with an Abram's Trek style reboot. (They're not planning that yet presumably but who's to say?)

    Any of these can include some really meaningless statements about alternate timelines or whatever if you feel that somehow mitigates things for you. They don't for me, but certainly the EU is positively stiff with stories post Endor so theres no way to put new stories in without some kind of damage. Possibly critical.

    Me I actually think I could even become a SW fan again as long as Thrawn exists, Luke marries Mara Jade, and the Solos have three kids named Jaina, Jacen, and Anakin.

    So I'm leaning toward 2/3/5, clear out the detritus but recognize the EU did manage repeatedly to top its source material. On the other hand I would weep few tears for the Vong unhappening along with everything that happened after that. Lord knows those masochists along with RotS killed my personal fandom collectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soras Teva Gee View Post
    So I'm leaning toward 2/3/5, clear out the detritus but recognize the EU did manage repeatedly to top its source material. On the other hand I would weep few tears for the Vong unhappening along with everything that happened after that. Lord knows those masochists along with RotS killed my personal fandom collectively.
    Basically this for me. Anything past 25 ABY (start of the NJO) can go, no question. I'd like to see EU canon stay the same up through 19 ABY (the surrender of the Empire and the end of the Galactic Civil War) since as I said before most of the stuff up through there is actually good, but as long as they don't screw up the high points (Thrawn, Centerpoint, X-Wing series, etc.) I could deal with a few retcons here and there.

    I think I read that they're setting it 10 years after RotJ, which would put it in 14 ABY right around the Jedi Academy trilogy. The two big events in the "good" books after that are the Corellian Insurrection and Black Fleet Crisis, so as long as they just ignore those instead of explicitly retconning them that should be fine.

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    I think the best thing they could do with it would be to set Episodes 7+ far enough in the future that the EU material could still have happened, but there would be enough time since it happened that the world could conceivably take whatever shape they want it to take that might look nothing like the EU world. That would also help take care of having to get new actors for all the main characters if they set it shortly after RotJ.
    No. No no no no no. That's the line of thinking that got us NJO/Legacy Era in the first place, and if the movies are set after those they'll have to take all of the newer crap into account. Not a good idea at all.
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    Why? Why do you think Disney will screw it up?

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    That's a good way to put it.

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    I think they should release the long-awaited sequel to Ewoks: The Battle for Endor. The made-for-TV Ewok trilogy must be complete!!!

    And that movie had a brutal introduction. The bad guys kill the little girl's family at the very beginning.

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    Me I actually think I could even become a SW fan again as long as Thrawn exists, Luke marries Mara Jade, and the Solos have three kids named Jaina, Jacen, and Anakin.
    Well, personally, if they make Thrawn and TIE Fighter have unhappened, I'm done, as those were by far the best bits of Star Wars. (NJO and onwards is already uncanoned for me anyway, so I really don't care about that end.) They might get a pass if Thrawn (and Mara) appear in some recognisable form, otherwise: nope.

    And unThrawning seems the most likely happening, because he's not a sith, and thus doesn't have a shiny lightsabre or superpowers to wave around (and thus likely to be far too subtle/different a villain to those in most other SW non-EU-or-Clone-Wars-cartoon villains.)

    If they do unThrawn Thrawn, the only way they'll get any pennies from me again, like period, is if they have a serious starship battle (because I will forgive almost anything for a serious starship battle); but I'm talking like, ten-twenty solid minutes of massed starship combat, without any lightsabre duels getting in the way (because starships have been and always will be infinitely cooler than laser-swords.)



    If they, as suggested above, are setting in 14ABY or thereabouts, I won't have too many problems; that, at least, would theoretically preserve all the best bits (Thrawn/X-Wing series), and I'd be grimly prepared to sacrifice Hand of Thrawn in the event that it could mean Thrawn may still have a chance to come back...
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    This marks the end of fanfilms as we know them.
    Exactly. One of the best things about Lucas was he supported his fans by letting them run wild with their fandom. Fan fiction movies, shorts, artwork, comic strips, short stories and a whole lot more. As long as they did it for love and not profit he left them alone.

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