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    Default Let's vote up a Mouse Guard character![Step 6.6. Specialty!]

    Greetings,

    after the fun of voting on Burning Wheel Orcs and Dwarfes let's go do Mouse Guard!

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    Here are the general steps:
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    - How do you convince people
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    - What did you learn from your Mentor?
    - Experience in the Guard
    - What's your specialty
    What are you knowledgeable about?
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    - Quality that you where born with
    - Inherited from parents / Life on the Road
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    The first step for a Mouse Guard charakter is the concept but we will have to skip this since we are voting.

    The second thing is Guard Rank. This is really important. The higher ranks ususally have more choices. They are also older and have more will then health while younger ranks are healthier but less willfull.

    The Ranks are

    Tenderpaw - a new recruit in the MG, learning under a Mentor they have 1 or 2 years to show their worth

    Guard Mouse - the rank and file members of the Guard

    Patrol Guard - experienced Mice with a lot of different abilitities able to fullfill solo missions

    Patrol Leader - The Leader of a group of 2-5 mice. Experienced members of the Guard.

    Guard Captain - The second highest rank in the guard (and the highest avaiable to players) They are tasked with administrative stuff and diplomatic missions. Also leading the Guard in war.


    I think we shouldn't pick Tenderpaw because there is not a lot to do with them. Not many skillpoints etc. It would be okay but i won't recommend it.
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    I vote Patrol Guard.

    I feel like, as long as we're voting up a single mouse, it might as well be the elite operative trusted to carry out missions as a single mouse.

    edit: Although, since Mouse Guard creation is a lot quicker/simpler than Burning Wheel creation, it might be neat to have a thread (maybe after this one?) where we vote up an entire patrol party of mice, and try to get an interesting group dynamic going on between them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xefas View Post
    I vote Patrol Guard.

    I feel like, as long as we're voting up a single mouse, it might as well be the elite operative trusted to carry out missions as a single mouse.

    edit: Although, since Mouse Guard creation is a lot quicker/simpler than Burning Wheel creation, it might be neat to have a thread (maybe after this one?) where we vote up an entire patrol party of mice, and try to get an interesting group dynamic going on between them.
    I think we can do this after the forum has gotten used to 1 mouse ^^

    I also will maybe use this mouse in my game next week, we will see.
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    I vote guard mouse, because reversing titles is fun.
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    seconding patrol guard
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    there seems to be not much interest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xefas View Post
    edit: Although, since Mouse Guard creation is a lot quicker/simpler than Burning Wheel creation, it might be neat to have a thread (maybe after this one?) where we vote up an entire patrol party of mice, and try to get an interesting group dynamic going on between them.
    I love this idea.

    Also: Tenderpaw.

    Siegel, give it a little time, and then move it along, I'd say. Wait around, maybe, until you've got 5 or 6 votes. Most importantly, just keep it rolling. People will come. (Linking to it in your sig might help as well.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siegel View Post
    there seems to be not much interest?
    Maybe we could link to this thread from the previous burning wheel thread, I find it hard to believe that there is much more interest in burning wheel then in mouse guard, most people probably just haven't found the topic yet.(or they just don't know what to answer)
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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishproverb View Post
    I vote guard mouse, because reversing titles is fun.
    this, but moreso because i feel the title is better


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    Patrol Guard gets my vote.
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    Patrol Guard, aka Swat Mouse
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    I'll throw in another vote for patrol guard. Enough rank to be decently experienced without getting too old.
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    Patrol Leader. Because I like being the boss.
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    Guard Captain. Because if you want to be the boss, why stop before you're at the top?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    Guard Captain. Because if you want to be the boss, why stop before you're at the top?
    I actually never created one. There are absurderly powerfull though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siegel View Post
    There are absurderly powerfull though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by toapat View Post
    for a hamster
    Hamster of Doom.
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    The Atlas is also goofy but it has that whole "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" menacing smile thing going for it. The guy who drew that one up was obviously taken to the Nutcracker when he was a child... and he was screaming in terror the entire time.
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    Hamster of Doom.
    quick question:

    Are there hamsters, chipmunks, and other small rodents as PCable races?


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    Quote Originally Posted by toapat View Post
    quick question:

    Are there hamsters, chipmunks, and other small rodents as PCable races?
    Nope. Chipmunks are dangerous, they may eat mice.
    Actually nearly everything will eat mice. It's a dark dark setting. Even the weather is out to kill you.
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    If you go Patrol Leader, how much control do you get over your mousy minions guardsmen? And does the game whine at you/demote you when they inevitably immediately die? And how strong are these little dudes?

    If the minions are good enough, Patrol Leader. Otherwise, default to Patrol Guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slipperychicken View Post
    If you go Patrol Leader, how much control do you get over your mousy minions guardsmen? And does the game whine at you/demote you when they inevitably immediately die? And how strong are these little dudes?

    If the minions are good enough, Patrol Leader. Otherwise, default to Patrol Guard.
    Well they are player characters too.

    You have control over them, you are in charge. But the Guard does promote working together and not blindly following orders so your Patrolmates have a say in the matter.
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    Right now Patrol Guard is leading with a huge number of votes. Should we go on to nature and age?
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    ya, we should advance.

    i want to say have a low nature.


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    So as a Patrol Guard the Health and Will of our Mouse are 4.

    His Age can be in a Range of 21-50

    Nature is a fairly important stat. A low nature means you can learn skills faster but have the risk to become to unmousy to be in the guard. A high nature is a big reserve of power but you have a long time before learning skills.
    Mouse nature is climbing, hiding, foraging and running away. If you do one of these things you can roll your nature exponent.
    You can use nature instead of any other skill in the game if you don't have it but you risk loosing it if you fail.
    You can also spend a persona point to ad your nature exponent to your roll but this is dangerous in the long run.

    To get to the nature exponent we have to awnser 3 questions. I think i will give them without the implications they have. It's more fun and RP-like this way.
    You should each awnser the question and tell us what age our mouse should have. I think i will take the average of the given ages.

    * Do you save for winter even if it means going without something now? Or do you use what you have when you need it?

    * When confronted, do you stand your ground and fight or do you run and hide?

    * Do you fear owls, weasels and wolves?
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    Not sure if you wanted yes or no, but I'm giving you some reasonings for what I picked.

    * Do you save for winter even if it means going without something now? Or do you use what you have when you need it?
    If you mean this in a sane way(eat less now so you have more later), then yes

    * When confronted, do you stand your ground and fight or do you run and hide?
    I'm a mouse, running and hiding is what you do, standing your ground is what's gets you eaten.

    * Do you fear owls, weasels and wolves?
    Getting eaten doesn't suit me, so yes I fear them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix_of_Doom View Post
    Not sure if you wanted yes or no, but I'm giving you some reasonings for what I picked.

    * Do you save for winter even if it means going without something now? Or do you use what you have when you need it?
    If you mean this in a sane way(eat less now so you have more later), then yes

    * When confronted, do you stand your ground and fight or do you run and hide?
    I'm a mouse, running and hiding is what you do, standing your ground is what's gets you eaten.

    * Do you fear owls, weasels and wolves?
    Getting eaten doesn't suit me, so yes I fear them.
    that's basically the best way to awnser the questions but a simple Yes/No would be enought.
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    His Age can be in a Range of 21-50
    Is that measured in months? I'll put him in the prime of his life... 25 sounds about right. Someone correct me if that isn't mouse glory-days.

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    [I]* Do you save for winter even if it means going without something now? Or do you use what you have when you need it?
    Being a true, honest mouse, I save for winter. I shall not burden the tribe with my luxurious excesses.

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    * When confronted, do you stand your ground and fight or do you run and hide?
    I stand and fight! No one bullies a mouse!

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    * Do you fear owls, weasels and wolves?
    Neither mouse nor beast shall shake my resolve. I fear them not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siegel View Post
    * Do you save for winter even if it means going without something now? Or do you use what you have when you need it?

    * When confronted, do you stand your ground and fight or do you run and hide?

    * Do you fear owls, weasels and wolves?
    lets say this mouse is 45

    1: He saves for winter, but will use something even if he needs it for later

    2: He retreats to better possition to which to engage

    3: He respects predators


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    * Do you save for winter even if it means going without something now? Or do you use what you have when you need it?

    * When confronted, do you stand your ground and fight or do you run and hide?

    * Do you fear owls, weasels and wolves?
    1. Yes, save for winter.

    2. Stand my ground; it's why I'm in the guard.

    3. Yes, it's a part of my nature I have trouble with.
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    The ages are in "1 circle of the 4 seasons" so a year = a year. These are awesome anthropomorphic fighter mice!
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