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2012-11-10, 02:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Mostly because I want a Fighting/Flying-type Pokemon. Come on, Balloon Fighter!
But actually, CAP has had some pretty cool ones. I wrecked with a team that used the Rock-type one when that one was more recent. They definitely needed to fix it. Or at least prevent Technician Giga Drain from being a thing, which is really why it was so absurd and why the Gen V switches probably pushed it down a significant margin.
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2012-11-10, 09:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Hi again guys. I've been away for a couple of days, but I'm the guy who posted near the end of last thread about making up a fighting-type team for a types tournament. At the time my plan was Machamp, Hitmonchan, Scrafty, Heracross, Emboar and possibly Terrakion. Turns out Terrakion/Cobalion/Virizion/Keldeo are in fact allowed, and there is no species clause or items clause or anything like that.
Since looking at Emboar's moves though I'm inclined to drop him for something else. Any thoughts on that?
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2012-11-10, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Drop Emboar for Blaziken or Infernape.
I would consider Lucario over Terrakion, and possibly Breloom in place of Hitmonchan.
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2012-11-10, 11:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
I second Breloom. Without sleep clause, that thing is a beast.
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2012-11-10, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Drop hitmonchan for either breloom or keldeo, and emboar for infernape. If you can get a speed boost blaziken, get that over infernape.
Once you go blue, nothing else will do. Once you go Quarian...someone will die.
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2012-11-10, 12:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Part of YugiohITPAvatar by Smuchmuch
Warning: This post may contain traces of nuts, madness and/or sarcasm, you have been warned.
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2012-11-10, 07:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
I finally got back to playing B2, finished up the last two gyms and realized my Haxorus is death, destroyer of worlds. But I digress, the musketeer trio (who are more or less given to you) has been captured; Cobalion is forever boxed, Virizion somehow has a +SpeAtk nature first try, but Terrakion, oh Terrakion: soft reset for an hour getting one because I actually care about his nature, waste hundreds of Ultra Balls (seriously, how did Cobalion and Virizion only take a few?), finally start using my Master Ball.
Finally got one with a Hasty nature, 28 ivs in Attack and 25 in Speed. Good enough for in game and friendly matches, but his other stats are atrocious with none of his defenses or HP in the double-digits. Oh well, Team Plasma will get roflstomped and that is a reward all it's own.
EDIT/UPDATE: So I got to the Pokemon League, yeah having that Haxorus was a bad idea... I got the One and Only medal my first time against the Elite Four. I do this to myself...Last edited by boj0; 2012-11-11 at 02:43 AM.
Once you go blue, nothing else will do. Once you go Quarian...someone will die.
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2012-11-11, 07:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Previously known as Dorian Soth.
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2012-11-11, 10:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Well, you don't get totally walled by Registeel, so that's good.
I really don't play UU that often so I'm trying to think of what threatens your team.Once you go blue, nothing else will do. Once you go Quarian...someone will die.
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2012-11-11, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
I know that in theory, Shaymin, Weavile and Sableye can really screw with my team. But, then again, I'm still pretty bad at Pokey Men.
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2012-11-11, 11:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
I decided to figure out what I need to do to get me a subpunch breloom today. Little did I know it'd end up being a five step process that involves a lot of grinding and a couple instances of dealing with low percentages to acquire something.
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2012-11-12, 06:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
I have some sympathy - I decided I wanted a Spore Shroomish for my SoulSilver (which, assuming the breeding still works likes it used to, requires me to have both parents with Spore); and annoyingly, I haven't got a single one in Gen IV anywhere (and only one level 24 Breloom). So a great deal of time on and off rapid levelling in Diamond to get two caught from the marsh to level 45 (from about 23) is going to be required...
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2012-11-12, 06:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Previously known as Dorian Soth.
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2012-11-12, 07:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Bit pointless in SoulSilver, for something that's being included in the party as the Designated Statuser, since by that time it learned Spore, the game would be mostly over, given the fairly low levels involved. (Given that in all the other games, by the time you wrap up the bulk of the post game (without spamming the E4) you're tend to be creeping around level 60; whereas in HG, I've got about two gyms in Kanto to go and they're about 52.) Also, by that point, you may as well have evolved Breloom and used a heartscale. If I'm going to bother with Shroomish over Hoppip (which I had originally planned), there's no sense is doing it half-way.
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2012-11-12, 08:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Guys, here is a simple rundown from my OU team in Smogon battle simulator, I have been doing relatively well; but I think I can make it better.
Jozette (Blissey) (F) @ Leftovers
SpoilerTrait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SDef / 252 Def
- Wish
- Toxic
- Softboiled
- Flamethrower
Jozette is obviously my special wall and support (wish has saved my butt more times that I care to count); but I am not really sure if I should use flamethrower instead of Seismic Toss, the latter has a more consistent damage; but it is completely walled by ghost (which to be honest I haven't seen too many in OU); but flamethrower has been a good surprise attack.
Krusk (Haxorus) (M) @ Draco Plate
SpoilerTrait: Mold Breaker
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Swords Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake
He is my physical sweeper and becomes a best once I've any dance under the belt; but it has been difficult to set up, I am considering dropping one of the dances to make room for another attacking move, Stone Edge or X-scissor probably. I'm also considering switching the Draco Plate for an Expert belt or a Life Orb
Tordek (Forretress) (M) @ Leftovers
SpoilerTrait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes
- Gyro Ball
I'm pretty happy with this set up, is there anything that could help make it better?
Athain (Thundurus-Therian) (M) @ Expert Belt
SpoilerTrait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Not really sure what I can do with him, he has been working pretty good so far.
Liddda (Latias) (F) @ Light Clay
SpoilerTrait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Healing Wish
Is healing wish a good option? I've used it once; but it did nab me that battle.
Sandharrow (Infernape) (M) @ Life Orb
SpoilerTrait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature
- Close Combat
- Overheat
- U-turn
- Stone Edge
A mixed attack set, I will probably drop Stone edge for Match Punch. My strategy with him is coming in using close combat/overheat then U-turn for Jozette and wish-heal him.
Oh and a cookie if someone recognizes their nicknames.
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2012-11-12, 08:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
The majority are a variation on the 3.5 Iconic Characters.
/me takes my cookie now, thanks.
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2012-11-12, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-12, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Krusk gave it away.
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2012-11-12, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
If you're not going to use something else with Stealth Rock, put it on Forretress. Spikes/Toxic Spikes are recommended on Smogon because Stealth Rock has better distribution (that is, putting it on Forretress would then be redundant), so without a Rock layer on your team, that reasoning goes away... Stealth Rock is the only hazard that hits Dragonite, Salamence, or Skarmory, and is particularly valuable against the first because it breaks Multiscale, which will be an issue if Haxorus isn't already out and ready to smash face.
Last edited by Mando Knight; 2012-11-12 at 09:33 AM.
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2012-11-12, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Did't think about that, I'll probably switch Toxic Spikes for Stealth rock (Blissey can poison pretty well on her own right).
One thing that I just discovered (thanks to a Jellicent) is that I have no way to deal with Ghost types effectively and they can wall my attackers pretty easily, would switching match punch for shadow claw a good idea?
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2012-11-12, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Ah, ouch that's a pain. I remember taking a lot of effort to get a Shroomish in Pearl. A bit of a pain to get.
As for what I have to do, let's see if I haven't forgotten already.
- Level a Scraggy to level 49 from 19 to learn Focus Punch.
- Catch a (hopefully female) Snubble in Soul Silver (with a 1% chance to encounter) and transfer it to Black 2.
- Breed Snubble with Scraggy until I get a male Snubble (25% chance) with Focus Punch.
- Breed that Snubble with Shroomish until I get a male Shroomish with Focus Punch.
- Breed that Shroomish with Adamant Ditto for nature, and keep doing so until I get a Shroomish with Poison Heal.
- Proceed to level Shroomish until it gets Spore and Seed Bomb, then evolve.
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2012-11-12, 10:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-12, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-12, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Especially since running the calculations... your Infernape will never OHKO Jellicent with Shadow Claw without a lucky crit (it does threaten a 2HKO if it survives, however). Jelli then threatens an OHKO with Surf (always getting it if entry hazards are in play), and causes significant damage with Scald (not quite enough to OHKO, however).
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2012-11-12, 10:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-12, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Haxorus shouldn't have much of a problem with Jellicent. You don't want to switch into a Scald, but Outrage should 2HKO even if you get burned in between the first and second attacks. If you can give Aromatherapy to Blissey, then you don't even need to worry about that.
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2012-11-12, 02:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-12, 02:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Last edited by Agent_0042; 2012-11-12 at 02:56 PM.
Shugenja (3.5 Base Class, Redux, Mostly Complete, Orders and Extra Material WIP)
Planar Thaumaturge (3.5 Prestige Class, Complete)
Event Horizon (3.5 Discipline, Mostly Complete)
Reposting the Martial Compendium (All the material I could recover from the old Wizards forums)
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2012-11-12, 03:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-12, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder
Also, most Jellyfish put points.into physical bulk, making it even better.
I'd drop the draco plate and swords.dance.on Haxorus, go with life orb/lum berry and x-scissor. Night slash if you really hate ghosts. Infernape should drop stone edge, he doesn't have the bulk to afford a miss, HP Ice maybe so you can bait and kill Gliscor?
Unrelated, but the report post button is too close to the post new message button. My touchpad likes messing with meOnce you go blue, nothing else will do. Once you go Quarian...someone will die.