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    I doubt she was unlockable when she was one of the characters shipped with the game.
    As for the other racers, we saw one named candle who could light some of the terrain on fire/trigger explosions, and it was clear that none of the other racers could. King Candy's car seemed especially good at pseudo drifting/power slides.
    So Vanellope having a minor teleport power (aside from when she's rescuing Ralph it doesn't appear to go very far at a time) doesn't seem all that broken really.


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    So shall we call it the best attempt of Mainstream to portray videogames after the failure of Level Up, and bad Videogame to Movie Adaptions (except Tomb Raider and Resident Evil).
    I am planning to watch it for thanksgiving, along with Skyfall.
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    Nope. It completely DOMINATES Resident evil. Perhaps the only movie series where the plot is DUMBER then in the games.

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    Saw it, loved it.

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    I was quite surprised by how much time was spent in Sugar Rush though. After seeing the movie it makes sense, but I didn't realise, at the time, that about half the time would be spent there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by t209 View Post
    So shall we call it the best attempt of Mainstream to portray videogames after the failure of Level Up, and bad Videogame to Movie Adaptions (except Tomb Raider and Resident Evil).
    I am planning to watch it for thanksgiving, along with Skyfall.
    I liked Level Up the movie, the show is decent (I like the characters more than the video game references), but yeah Tomb Raider and RE aren't best adaptation.

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    So I watched it, I thought it was ok.

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    I'm not exactly a fan of the precocious child stereotype, so right off the bat one of the main characters did nothing for me. Oh I thought her plight was interesting enough, but I never really found her funny, or all that interesting.

    I will say though, I thought the reason why she couldn't race given by the Candy King guy was very interesting and had a lot of potential. I liked the fact that it could take things into an entirely new direction that sometimes it actually is best not to get what you want and showing her grow up with that, maybe through the development of the story just allow her to race off hours or something.

    But no, King was a lying narcissistic villain and all the nuance of the scenario was destroyed. Now don't get me wrong the scene where he broke the car was great, I was just hoping they'd roll with that angle instead of the return of a generic good vs evil plot.

    Also, didn't particularly care about the shoehorned in romance other than the fact it allowed a few more jokes from Fix-it Jr.

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    The impression I got was that since she was programmed with a certain personality, she couldn't develop as much of one on her own.

    Ralph was programmed to "Wreck It", he didn't have much in the way of dialog. The personality that developed from that remained consistent with the personality given in the game. He was a big, angry guy who didn't like being forced to live in a junkyard.

    Fix-It-Felix Jr isn't a game about Ralph being a cruel person, it's about him throwing a tantrum when his stump gets bulldozed.

    The townsfolk were programmed to adore Felix and help him defeat Ralph.

    From the outsiders perspective, Calhoun has MORE development than the other game characters. INSIDE the gameverse, this means that she has LESS room to have her own personality.
    The Cybugs are programmed to be mindless animals, so that's where Their personality starts and there isn't anywhere it can go from there.
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    My bet is that it's a combination of that, and the fact her game had only been plugged in for a week. Ralph had thirty years to develop a personality. Calhoun spent a week fighting bugs, plus whatever her backstory gave her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dienekes View Post
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    I'm not exactly a fan of the precocious child stereotype, so right off the bat one of the main characters did nothing for me. Oh I thought her plight was interesting enough, but I never really found her funny, or all that interesting.

    I will say though, I thought the reason why she couldn't race given by the Candy King guy was very interesting and had a lot of potential. I liked the fact that it could take things into an entirely new direction that sometimes it actually is best not to get what you want and showing her grow up with that, maybe through the development of the story just allow her to race off hours or something.

    But no, King was a lying narcissistic villain and all the nuance of the scenario was destroyed. Now don't get me wrong the scene where he broke the car was great, I was just hoping they'd roll with that angle instead of the return of a generic good vs evil plot.

    Also, didn't particularly care about the shoehorned in romance other than the fact it allowed a few more jokes from Fix-it Jr.
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    How was the short, "Paper man"? Kinda sweet though. The last scene with Ralph's air drop attack on mentos over diet cola mountain was awesome. The King (AKA Turbo) was a manipulative bastard, kinda creepy when he turned into a bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sipex View Post
    Saw it, loved it.
    I was quite surprised by how much time was spent in Sugar Rush though. After seeing the movie it makes sense, but I didn't realise, at the time, that about half the time would be spent there!
    Indeed. I think another ten, twenty minutes of game hopping would have been good. That Ralph hit, what, one and a half games for his medal is kinda lame. Too coincidental, I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dienekes View Post
    So I watched it, I thought it was ok.

    I'm not exactly a fan of the precocious child stereotype, so right off the bat one of the main characters did nothing for me. Oh I thought her plight was interesting enough, but I never really found her funny, or all that interesting.
    I think this is intentional. You're not supposed to like Vanellope, at all. She's rude, arrogant, childish, and insulting. It's played to the hilt, and they even show that she is aware of it ("One more, one more!"). It's a defense mechanism, and while that trait is stupid, what it implies helps the character a bit.
    Although yeah she sucked.

    I will say though, I thought the reason why she couldn't race given by the Candy King guy was very interesting and had a lot of potential. I liked the fact that it could take things into an entirely new direction that sometimes it actually is best not to get what you want and showing her grow up with that, maybe through the development of the story just allow her to race off hours or something.

    But no, King was a lying narcissistic villain and all the nuance of the scenario was destroyed. Now don't get me wrong the scene where he broke the car was great, I was just hoping they'd roll with that angle instead of the return of a generic good vs evil plot.
    Aye. It was unfortunately ham-fisted, that there can't be any real conflict going on here because something as strange as someone who is a petulant lying manipulative jerk paying for their actions is just not possible.

    Honestly, I would have liked Ralph to try and talk to her. Not just have a Coincidental Moment where she sees the medal and resolves never to trust him again. Have him explain what happens, have her go through with it anyway, and let there be fallout.

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    Two male adult playing Sugar Rush! I think Disney is beginning to know about Brony and other equivalent fandom.
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    i didn't see any ponies in Sugar Rush - it's basically Mario Kart with a Tastes Like Diabetes gloss over it. So it's more of a commentary that 'guys will play racing games'. The basic concept/plot has been in development hell since the 80s or 90's...I know bronies hunger for more widespread recognition/success, but I think you're jumping at straws here.

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    Yeah. Its just a bunch of guys that value gameplay over looks.

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    i didn't see any ponies in Sugar Rush - it's basically Mario Kart with a Tastes Like Diabetes gloss over it. So it's more of a commentary that 'guys will play racing games'. The basic concept/plot has been in development hell since the 80s or 90's...I know bronies hunger for more widespread recognition/success, but I think you're jumping at straws here.
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    Not a reference to Brony but I thought it as a parody of adult demographic fans in many child-intended genre (Brony is one of the examples).

    Sorry about it.
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    That might be more possible/likely, yeah.

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    How many of you see Calhoun as a middle aged lady? Either that or I just see her as the gym teacher from Glee.
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    It could be Old lady romance with young guy (appearance).
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    i didn't see any ponies in Sugar Rush - it's basically Mario Kart with a Tastes Like Diabetes gloss over it. So it's more of a commentary that 'guys will play racing games'. The basic concept/plot has been in development hell since the 80s or 90's...I know bronies hunger for more widespread recognition/success, but I think you're jumping at straws here.
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    PONY RAGE TRIGGERED! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

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    Two male adult playing Sugar Rush! I think Disney is beginning to know about Brony and other equivalent fandom.

    Nope. Two completly different things, two different reasons. Actualy, going by the sorta Anime-esqu charecters and the strange, presumably translated names, I would suppose that it is, if anything, a referance to the wave of Japan-interested youth that sprung up a decade ago.

    Besides, Disney knows about 30+ year old fans. A good amount of there planning revolves around the people who watched there movies twenty years ago to bring in there kids and buy merch and such. Case in point, they can show the Lion King on the big screen again, and people will come and sit down and watch the same movie and laugh and smile even if nothing has realy changed.

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    Yeah, I think they were more tuning in to 'wee-a-boos' as I think they are called.
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    Actually, if that was the intention, props to Disney for doing so in such a subtle manner.

    Of course, now I am going to be looking for a Totoro reference when I re-watch that film. Mostly because of John Lassetter, but now because of this conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karoht View Post
    Actually, if that was the intention, props to Disney for doing so in such a subtle manner.

    Of course, now I am going to be looking for a Totoro reference when I re-watch that film. Mostly because of John Lassetter, but now because of this conversation.
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    I expected to like this movie, but I did not expect to love it as much as I did. Most excellent, Disney.
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    Just saw it. I suspect my reaction is fairly typical in here.

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    In short, I liked it, but wasn't as thrilled as by, say, Wall-E or Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.

    I was disappointed by how few games were visited, and how the cameos from existing game franchises had about as much importance to the plot (for the most part) as cameos by Stan Lee in Marvel movies. However, I understand why this is the case - it's only natural that Disney wants the most popular characters of their movie to be characters they own and can merchandise.

    The character development was a little unusual in that Ralph himself did not need to go through much. Ralph started out the movie correct and changed very little - it was Felix and the others in his game who were taking him for granted and treating him badly for doing what he was supposed to do. Ralph did make mistakes in Hero's Duty, and was deceived by King Candy, but otherwise was a nice guy being mistaken for a monster most of the time.

    I am actually a little surprised that I didn't even suspect that King Candy was Turbo. I had guessed him to be a usurper when he entered the code - he was messing with reality in ways that the other characters clearly thought was impossible - but I didn't make the connection.

    Looking back, I am impressed that all three original games, parodies though they may have been, had internal mechanics that were consistent and would have made decent games of their genres and time periods.
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    Looking back to the nicelanders,
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    I think their apathetic nature toward Ralph had to do with the idea of "deceiving appearance" and perspective. From the gamers eye (for those who ignored his back story), they are the good guys. But from Ralph's eye, they are jerks. Remind me of Lotso, Goblins by Thunt, and Wicked.
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    In short, I liked it, but wasn't as thrilled as by, say, Wall-E or Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.

    I was disappointed by how few games were visited, and how the cameos from existing game franchises had about as much importance to the plot (for the most part) as cameos by Stan Lee in Marvel movies. However, I understand why this is the case - it's only natural that Disney wants the most popular characters of their movie to be characters they own and can merchandise.

    The character development was a little unusual in that Ralph himself did not need to go through much. Ralph started out the movie correct and changed very little - it was Felix and the others in his game who were taking him for granted and treating him badly for doing what he was supposed to do. Ralph did make mistakes in Hero's Duty, and was deceived by King Candy, but otherwise was a nice guy being mistaken for a monster most of the time.

    I am actually a little surprised that I didn't even suspect that King Candy was Turbo. I had guessed him to be a usurper when he entered the code - he was messing with reality in ways that the other characters clearly thought was impossible - but I didn't make the connection.

    Looking back, I am impressed that all three original games, parodies though they may have been, had internal mechanics that were consistent and would have made decent games of their genres and time periods.
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    It bugs me when people complain about the minimal role played by the Cameos. The movie was needed to be accessible. It was nice to have Zangief in there, but it would have been wrong to expect the audiences to all possess an extensive knowledge of Street Fighter. By using their own games, and simply playing to the well known standards of the genres, they were able to tell a story that just about anybody could understand.
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    Not a reference to Brony but I thought it as a parody of adult demographic fans in many child-intended genre (Brony is one of the examples).

    Sorry about it.
    Nah, that's been a thing for a while now. Good twenty years or more. Look at the comic book guy from the Simpsons.

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    It bugs me when people complain about the minimal role played by the Cameos. The movie was needed to be accessible. It was nice to have Zangief in there, but it would have been wrong to expect the audiences to all possess an extensive knowledge of Street Fighter. By using their own games, and simply playing to the well known standards of the genres, they were able to tell a story that just about anybody could understand.
    I know, but it's more a problem with the marketing for the movie than with the movie itself.

    I'm not asking for a full history of the Legend of Zelda as told by Samus and Donkey Kong in mime. And I did enjoy the cameos. But I had unrealistic expectations going in as far as how much the cameo characters would do and say, and while some of that's my own childlike hope, some of that's the previews' fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talanic View Post
    I know, but it's more a problem with the marketing for the movie than with the movie itself.
    I'm not asking for a full history of the Legend of Zelda as told by Samus and Donkey Kong in mime.
    ...wait, why not? Seriously, why not?
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    Because Legend of Zelda and Metroid aren't Arcade games silly....or at least highly obscure ones.

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