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2012-11-19, 12:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
Yeah, that was crazy. Panth? Ripped to pieces. Warwick? he even ULTED onto you and you got him. Sona? Wrecks you :P
All in all, a good night. I barely had to go with Jax/Olaf/Katarina doing all the heavy lifting.
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2012-11-19, 12:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-19, 12:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-19, 02:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Mhm. I just started playing Swain more. Been going a bit unorthodox with Chalice > Zhonya/Abyssal > Grail > Guardian Angel. Seems Grail covers the mana problems, Abyssal/Sorcs is as good as ever and having 3 effective lives with 200 Armor/MR is quite solid for the Staying Alive-part.
On Treeline you even have room for a Blackfire Torch or a Voidstaff in the last slot. On SR I usually have to settle for a Deathcap.Last edited by Eldariel; 2012-11-19 at 02:08 AM.
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2012-11-19, 02:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-19, 02:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-19, 05:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
I only get grail(after RoA) if I can't get regular blues.
Hmm, I seemed to get into something here, a little guide for everybody who wants to make sure their enemies get Swain.
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Swain, ze General of War, and the Raven of Death.
In what teamcomp do you want Swain: when you want a ranged tanky ap with sustain who can go mid or top.
Preferably with a non-blue reliant jungler who can initiate and tank the first round of damage.
For the AD carry, anybody but Ez, unless Ez can manage his mana troubles.(IE. having MP5 runes/Soraka/very good with managing his skills)
You need to be blue numero #1
Supports: Leona, Sona, Janna, Alistar, Then other ones.
Top/mid: Doesn't matter that much, preferably non-blue reliant with a lot of burst so that you have both burst and DoT.
Masteries: 21/0/9(offensive AP + Utility mana(regen) and buff duration)
Spells: Flash+Ignite.
Skills: R>E>Q>W.
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Boots + 3 pot
Catalyst
Boots 2/ROA(a early roa is key to winning the ending of your laning)
Spirit visage/hourglass
Grail/ Deathcap/ Abyssal scepter. Voidstaff if you're doing really well and they're building MR.
If doing really wel: Go ahead and build that deathcap after your RoA. Spirit visage and Hourglass can come later. Press you advantage.
Addional defensive items if problems with enemy Phys dmg: Frozen Heart, GA.
Addional defensive items if problems with enemy magic dmg: QSS, Banshees.
The trick towards not having mana problems in laning, is just last-hitting properly. Don't underestimate how much mana you can get from your passive, it is a lot. Not to mention that I run a set of MP5's on Swain.
On skills:
Q: The laserbird: Nice for a slow and some damage. Try to throw this just before your snare wears off instead of landing it straight away. No use in him walking away a second after your snare ends.
W: Nevermove: A delayed AoE snare. A one point wonder. This skill however has a long cooldown, so keep an eye on your jungler, because if he wants to gank, you need this spell up.
E: Torment: A strong DoT spell which also amplifies your other damage by 8% / 11% / 14% / 17% / 20%. (from 3 points in and onward, it amplifies more then Vlads friggen ult! But only for you, because you are special. )
If somebody is E'd, don't just stand there, throw in some AA's, they're also amplified!
Why level it that way: Ult is pretty straightforward, more damage and thus more healing, you want that. But why E over Q? Your Q might be doing more damage, but the damage amplification on your E, makes your total damage output more then your Q could hope to offer.
R: Boogy time: Sends out three ravens of damage which will heal you for a quarter of the damage done. Pretty mana intensive though.
Try to figure out when you're getting harassed in lane and you need ult-healing, when you should do so. Your mana should always be higher then your health when you do it, in my oppinion. Plan ahead, buy some ward, because ult healing will push your lane.
As a general guideline:
When you don't have blue, try to save your ult for when going in for the kill.
For teamfights, the same things go, save it for when going for the kill or you think you'l be getting a lot of focus.
Spellcombo: WEQ. R when described as above.
Teamfighting in General(Ha):
You're a tanky AP who likes to be in the middle of things. You go in after the tank.
Combo whoever is fed or squishy enough to go down quick.
Hourglass if you're getting focussed and let the heat go a bit to your mid/top and AD carry. In the later part of the combat, try to kite more as you will slowly(or not so slowly) be running OOM.
Uh I think I got everything, have fun Swaining your enemies!
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2012-11-19, 06:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
Reads "Last Hitting Is Key to Swain", cries self to sleep.
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2012-11-19, 07:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hm, few things I've found I do differently:
I actually run 9-12-9 on him; I find having Indomitable and Creep Damage allows for great lane aggression. I've also run 19/11/0 on him but ultimately I feel the extra mana and buff duration is stronger than the extra AP.
I go E > W > Q; E's great for winning the lane especially since it amplifies autoattack and Ignite damage, but W gets its cooldown reduced by ranking it while Q only gets damage & slow increase by ranking it, not to mention W's great for shoving lanes.
As I touched on above, I liked how the Grail-experiment went against mage laners (against physicals it's fully possible you're too squishy that way; didn't get to test it; I'm tempted to try Doran's Shields there); your ult gives you stupid amounts of effective HP so the extra MR gives you great increase in your durability, and the CDR allows you to hit the CDR cap with blue which is really nice for a mage who plans to sit in the fight for its whole duration.Campaign Journal: Uncovering the Lost World - A Player's Diary in Low-Magic D&D (Latest Update: 8.3.2014)
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2012-11-19, 07:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-19, 11:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
I disagree. There are some top laners, for example, for whom last hitting isn't really mandatory. Sure, it's better if you can, but they can get by without it. Kennen, for example, can farm with Q, E/W, etc. without much last hitting skill.
Same with some others. This probably doesn't apply at higher skill levels, but often lane dominance -> shoving lane + warding is enough to keep an enemy from catching up.
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2012-11-19, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Hi. I'm Garen. You might remember me from such movies as 'How is He Tower Diving at Level 2?!' and 'How I Met Your Jungler.' Some of you seem to think I need to last hit, and, well, that's just erroneous. You see, I just spin, and I always win. Remember, kids, real champs don't quit or do drugs. They spin to win."
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2012-11-19, 11:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
I was thinking more about Renekton and Darius, but they all spin to win, so it's close enough.
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2012-11-19, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
Last hitting is still important, because sometimes you don't want to push your lane into their face the entire time. Sometimes you want to attempt to deny them creeps/XP, or are stuck under tower where being able to pick off minions as your tower damages them is really helpful. Spinning-to-farm under tower just gets 75% of the wave killed by said tower.
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2012-11-19, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last hitting is important on every champion. Everyone needs gold to contribute in the late game.
And Techno, you don't need to be perfect in last hitting. I'm not perfect and miss some last hits here and there. All you need to do is just keep practicing and get better at it.
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2012-11-19, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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I've started streaming again.
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2012-11-19, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Season 3 Mastery Calculator. I'm really liking the look of Spellblade, given how much I like to autoattack with my magi. Granted, 5% isn't all that but it's still quite useful.
Lethality being better on melee than range is interesting; I wonder if it's worth taking points in anymore given it's so hard to itemize crit efficiently on melee types and it's not worth as much on rangeds. Then again, 10% ASpd buff seems massive late.
Also, Brute Force is gone so it might be worth it to run Butcher if last hitting is a problem. I'll also pay a higher opportunity cost for decent AD on my mages now since it's a 12 point mastery, not a first tier one.
Safe Guard and Relentless look really good. Both Offense and Defense capstones got worse tho. Top tier Defense is looking really oddball in general. Swiftness became Utility capstone tho. That's interesting. Also, all the Move Speed is in Utility now so Utility is much more enticing for ganking junglers and Singed. Biscuiteer/Explorer are oddball but probably worth it if you're going that deep in Utility.
Meditation on tier 1 makes splashing Utility way easier. Also, Artificer looks interesting; I wonder how much that's really worth tho given the types of cooldowns on item actives. Hm, it'll probably be really strong on Dominion tho.Campaign Journal: Uncovering the Lost World - A Player's Diary in Low-Magic D&D (Latest Update: 8.3.2014)
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2012-11-19, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-19, 01:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am a huge fan of the Utility tree here, since Biscuiteer lets me buy more starting wards as the support, and explorer is just an extra ward, which is pretty awesome.
I wonder if 14/0/16 would be worth it on a champ like Jax in order to get both Spellsword and Vampirism (and the biscuit and the ward...).
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2012-11-19, 01:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm kinda sad defense lost its CDR. It was nice, having a reasonably easy way to gain a decent bundle of CDR for tanky types, and being able to get 12% of it from masteries for champs who really want heavy CDR build. Also, the flat champ damage reduction masteries seem utterly worthless for anything but superearlygame, and even then...
That said, I guess some of the new things in the tree, such as the slow reduction and the tenacity are quite interesting. Btw, I just reread pickpocket. Holy **** that'll add up fast on AD carries. I wonder if I could find an excuse to run 9/0/21 on ADs the oldschool way.Last edited by Eldariel; 2012-11-19 at 01:41 PM.
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2012-11-19, 01:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Pickpocket treats Parrrley! as melee.
BRB, maining support!Plank.-\==/-
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2012-11-19, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Strength of Singed is still too far into the tree still, which makes me sad.
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I've started streaming again.
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9/0/21 masteries on everyone, carry junglers + nunu, starting items other than boots+3? Pretty sure S3 is just S1 with new items.