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    I have 6300, but there's nobody in that bracket I like.

    Between Irelia and Miss Fortune, who would you recommend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeglin_Dubh View Post
    I have 6300, but there's nobody in that bracket I like.

    Between Irelia and Miss Fortune, who would you recommend?
    a.) Do you want a top lane bruiser who is "supposedly" easy as all hell to play, or do you want an AD Carry.

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    Irelia is obviously the best. I mean, come on. Bladesurge. Equilibrium Strike. Irelia enables sick plays and she gets to build fun items. You get to dive people and you perpetually have like 66.7% CC reduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aethernox View Post
    Irelia is obviously the best. I mean, come on. Bladesurge. Equilibrium Strike. Irelia enables sick plays and she gets to build fun items. You get to dive people and you perpetually have like 66.7% CC reduction.

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    Yeah, but what does MF do? Not be able to cast her ult in a fight because it lowers her DPS and CCs her? Run away from people when they run at you? Depend on your team to peel for you because you have zero re-positioning skills? Where are those hearts even coming from?

    MF: suspicious as ****.
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    i still haven't used aviator irelia ._.
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    So I'm kinda upset that the support's gold generation mastery is so deep in the Utility tree. I understand that they want it to be hard for other people to pick up, but I've never specced that deep into Utility on supports. I went 0/21/9 for a long time, and now I go 1/15/14. Admittedly part of that is that the Utility tree is pretty meh right now, but I also like having extra bulk/defense so I can be more aggressive and try to harrass and push people out of lane. I feel like this might basically force supports to have at least 17 points in Utility.
    I actually see the new changes and want to go 0/7/23 in the new masteries, since I want CDR for shurelia's, the extra gold, and the items. I'm not a fan of heavy defense tree use for supports, though.
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    I have a question about playing in losing lanes. When a player has been outlaned to the point where the enemy is strong and confident enough to dive them for a kill and get away, what should the laner do? We had this situation in my last game, where I (the jungler) tried to gank mid exclusively but our Fizz still got outlaned hard by their Diana.

    He ended up doing much better out of lane, going from zero to ten kills by the end of the game, but I want to know what I can do, as the jungler, to help a lane that's failing so hard.

    In any case, I'd also like to thank Godskook and LegoShrimp for being able to deal with their lanes without me being able to spare more than one gank each.
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    You know, with the new tenacity stuff, I think Irelia's actually got MORE tenacity in S3. And now she doesn't even have to buy Merc Treads to do it! (admittedly, the other tenacity items aren't screaming "OH, PLEASE, TAKE ME NOW!")

    Also: Elise's Miracle might be worth the 1.1k gold you spend on it, if you grab it early enough, since it stops taking up an item slot.

    I grabbed it in a bot game as Skarner, and while it wasn't "ZOMG, FANTASTIC!" I ended up having a LOT of passive regen, enough so that I could vanish into the enemy jungle at fairly low, clear their wraiths and golems, and walk back out with ~3/4 of my HP. Mana was a different story, but yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrestfire View Post
    I have a question about playing in losing lanes. When a player has been outlaned to the point where the enemy is strong and confident enough to dive them for a kill and get away, what should the laner do? We had this situation in my last game, where I (the jungler) tried to gank mid exclusively but our Fizz still got outlaned hard by their Diana.

    He ended up doing much better out of lane, going from zero to ten kills by the end of the game, but I want to know what I can do, as the jungler, to help a lane that's failing so hard.

    In any case, I'd also like to thank Godskook and LegoShrimp for being able to deal with their lanes without me being able to spare more than one gank each.
    All you can do is gank and try to arrange a laneswap. Wait 'til the enemy overextends, have your laner bait and then gank when they're diving. That's the most annoying thing ever for the laner and almost guaranteed kills and yeah.

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    Irelia's kinda perfect for Unlimited Blade Works. The choice is obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrestfire View Post
    I have a question about playing in losing lanes. When a player has been outlaned to the point where the enemy is strong and confident enough to dive them for a kill and get away, what should the laner do? We had this situation in my last game, where I (the jungler) tried to gank mid exclusively but our Fizz still got outlaned hard by their Diana.

    He ended up doing much better out of lane, going from zero to ten kills by the end of the game, but I want to know what I can do, as the jungler, to help a lane that's failing so hard.

    In any case, I'd also like to thank Godskook and LegoShrimp for being able to deal with their lanes without me being able to spare more than one gank each.
    With Fizz, I'd sorta expect that he could use his mobility to farm without dying, and snowball other lanes. Then again, you can also use that mobility to bait a dive and gank...but honestly, if Diana's strong enough to dive Fizz, 2v1 is a risky proposition. *shrug* This is why I don't jungle (and probably should). I can't make those calls very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrestfire View Post
    He ended up doing much better out of lane, going from zero to ten kills by the end of the game, but I want to know what I can do, as the jungler, to help a lane that's failing so hard.
    1.Ward a lot to prevent 'surprise' ganks on other lanes.

    2.Bait the aggression, and punish it. Hard to kill a Fizz under tower with a Nunu showing up and cutting off exit paths.

    3.You and the laner follow the fed laner into a gank. (You did this one)

    4.Abandon the lost lane, and focus on getting your strong lanes farther ahead than the lost lane is behind. Essentially, turn it into a snowball race.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forrestfire View Post
    In any case, I'd also like to thank Godskook and LegoShrimp for being able to deal with their lanes without me being able to spare more than one gank each.
    Technically, you ganked bot twice, but the second time, it was to countergank Diana/Jax, for the 3-1 trade in our favor.
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    So I just had an idea. Zyra, Morgana, Lux, Soraka, Taric, one of those supports who benefits from AP and ideally CDR too.

    Second, a carry that deals a lot of magic damage. AP Teemo, AP Twisted Fate, on-hit Kog'Maw, Kayle, someone like that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeglin_Dubh View Post
    I have 6300, but there's nobody in that bracket I like.

    Between Irelia and Miss Fortune, who would you recommend?
    Speaking as someone who mainly plays AD carrys, I find Miss Fortune to be largely uninteresting compared to a lot of champions, and so would recommend Irelia. But hey, its your IP, buy who you want.

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    Not be able to cast her ult in a fight because it lowers her DPS and CCs her?
    Between the range(over double her auto range), AD ratio(1.8 is enough to be comparable to autos pre-crit well into the late game), and the AoE status, I find that claim dubious. In a strict AoE-to-win comp, MF is a decent choice to follow galio/amumu or w/e your mid/jungler lockdown ults are.

    Granted, I see where you're coming from with all your other points(self-CC, no repositioning skills, and where *DO* those hearts come from), but not on this one. I also don't really see her as any fun, either, but some people love that AoE-to-win thing, so more power to them, I guess.

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    Well, I feel like an idiot. I finally found out why I've never been able to Irelia.

    I never noticed the second half of her Q.

    I might actually be able to bloody play her now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnOkami View Post
    Well, I feel like an idiot. I finally found out why I've never been able to Irelia.

    I never noticed the second half of her Q.

    I might actually be able to bloody play her now.
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    That sucks . If it makes you feel better, I didn't realize how lux's passive worked until like my third game.
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    Oh...

    That sucks . If it makes you feel better, I didn't realize how lux's passive worked until like my third game.
    On a similar note, you don't want to know how long it took me to figure out how to actually deal damage properly with Poison Trail.


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    On a similar note, you don't want to know how long it took me to figure out how to actually deal damage properly with Poison Trail.


    Or that Amumu's Despair should, perhaps, not be left on at all times.
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    Ashe vs Sion compared to Ashe vs Udyr
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    Sion's actually capable of doing something other than dying in that match up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroNumerous View Post
    Flash-ranged stun.

    Sion's actually capable of doing something other than dying in that match up.
    Twisted Fate vs. Udyr is similarly hilarious. Every time he gets close you'll have gold card up.
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    Flash-ranged stun.

    Sion's actually capable of doing something other than dying in that match up.
    Frankly, any bruiser is going to die to Ashe if she has items. In general though, I'd say Udyr is less kitable than Sion because he at least has Bear Stance. Really though I figure it's going to end up as "Flash into stun, get kited out of range, be useless for the rest of the fight" on both sides.
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    Mercs->Triforce->Wit's End->moretanky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeglin_Dubh View Post
    How does itemization for Irelia work?
    It works like this:
    Buy Triforce (Generally getting Sheen or Phage first, depending on if you need burst or tanky damage; if I'm winning I go for a Sheen, if not, Phage), buy Wit's End (normally I go MR cape -> AS Bow then combine them, but sometimes I am crazy rich and grab it all at once), win.

    I generally go Triforce/HoG (HoG early, but if you can get kills fairly often, don't pick Sheen/Phage over it)/Wit's End/Boots2 (upgrade after second of Phage/Sheen, generally)/HoG -> Omen of the Randuin/Big Chunk o' Ice [Frozen Heart]/Vest With Wings [GA]. I get more or less of either resistance depending on what I'm facing.

    But you can generally just buy whatever after Triforce/WE, in my experience.

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    Irelia actually has pretty diverse itemization options. There's Phage+Wit's End rush (never start your triforce with Sheen unless you're building Bruta), Triforce rush, and Ionic Spark + Wit's End. After that you tank up via GA (mandatory) and some combination of OP items like Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Aegis, etc.

    I'm interesting in trying Zephyr on her once the patch lands. AD, attack speed, move speed, crit chance, CDR, and tenacity yes pls. The damage is worse than IS but CDR is super awesome on Irelia and can be hard to get. FH+Zephyr gives you 35% and you can get Ninja Tabi every game, and those are still OP as ****.

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