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    Twitch needs a new skin. Everyone but me plays Gangster Twitch, and that's boring. (I use Vandal Twitch)
    Funny how you say that, because everyone I know used Primal Udyr and the Legendary Vlad skin, but... that doesn't make either skin boring. To me, the Primal Udyr skin is so good it should be the basic skin for Udyr. The Vlad skin turned vlad from a boring icky mage into an awesome killing machine.

    Actually, after much consideration, I've created the best vlad build ever:
    Go middle, take Flash+Ignite or Flash+Ghost if you think you're gonna be ganked a lot. Get as much AP in runes as you think is safe (read: rune to the game, movespeed, AP, health, MR, CDR, Armor all seem viable and strong). Start boots + 3 HP pots
    Level 1 Q (unless its a level 1 fight, then maybe W)
    Level 2 W (or Q if level 1 you took W)
    Level 3 E
    Afterwards max R, Q, E

    Items:
    First buy should be Revolver, this is core.
    Second Item should probably be either CDR Boots or Needlessly Large Rod
    Regardless, get CDR Boots, and then get Deathcap you can now kill everyone
    Get a Void Staff and then get whatever suits your fancy.

    During laning:
    Push, Farm, Ward
    Once you have your Revolver Vlad is the most sustained middle in the game. He is outranged by certain heroes (probably Cass, in theory Orianna, Kennen) and obviously it really depends on the matchup whether or not you can, but the optimal strategy is to walk into the middle of the wave, and Q+E+Auto the wave down as fast as possible. Once you are at the enemy tower go and take your wraiths. Push again and take their wraiths. Do not be afraid to trade harass, or even take harass. Something to consider: The more you push the wave, the more "tankier" you become, because you are constantly spellvamping. You have an insane amount of lane sustain if you cane E all 6 minions and Q every time it comes off of cd. You can almost always outfarm the enemy middle by just pushing to tower. Against mana-based heroes without blue-buff, you can probably force them to use all their mana pretty damn fast. You completely stop the roaming ability of the other middle, and if they roam regardless, you take wraiths, you take wolves, you take tower. They can return to Middle with a kill, sure, but you got 2x their CS and their mid tower is 1/2 HP.

    Teamfights:
    You are vlad. Kill them.
    More realistically: Try to get free Q+Es in. You can chunk for serious amounts of damage (This is why Vlad is broken: Burst damage of brand, but with CDs MUCH shorter). If you are ahead, don't be afraid to risk tower shots or being stunned. Unless the enemy can 100-0 you before you can pool, you can pool, ult, Q+E and flash away if they are still on you (or you can use Ghost before pooling and have OP mobility, or you could troll them with heal).

    Once the teamfight starts ult as many of them as possible and then E as many of them as possible. The thing about vlad is that he is an AoE sustained damage mage. Don't be afraid to get into the middle of the enemy team: unless you are ignited your spellvamp makes you insanely tanky and your ult stacked with Q+E does incredible damage.

    All the utility builds like Spell Pen+Abyssal, or Hourglass first or Rylais first just don't work for me. More AP = more HP More AP = more spellvamp. You don't need utility when you do so much damage that the enemy AD carry dies in 1 combo from an AoE Mage. In the words of Salce: "I play vlad because I like to 3 shot people."

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    Everyone needs a new skin

    I'd like a new Trundle skin the most, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aethernox View Post
    I meant that other champions (e.g. Jayce, Olaf, new Jax, old Jax, release Ezreal, release Graves) have more Irelia syndrome than Irelia does.
    I always heard it described as Pantheon Pox.
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    I always heard it described as Pantheon Pox.
    I always thought it was Xinzhoavitis
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    I want a snowman skin for Trundle. I have no idea how it would work with his skills, but I just can't get the image out of my head.

    They could even keep the weird hopping movement thing.
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    All the utility builds like Spell Pen+Abyssal, or Hourglass first or Rylais first just don't work for me. More AP = more HP More AP = more spellvamp. You don't need utility when you do so much damage that the enemy AD carry dies in 1 combo from an AoE Mage. In the words of Salce: "I play vlad because I like to 3 shot people."
    Utility?
    AP = flat damage returns via bonus damage. MPen = multiplicative damage returns on both bonus damage AND base damage.

    No stack r5 Tides of Blood: 160 base + .45 AP scaling damage.
    Max stacks r5 Tides of Blood: 320 base + .45 AP scaling damage.

    Also, spellvamp quints outscale flat AP quints.
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    Tell you what, Riot.
    Deliver unto us a good Twitch skin, and I will buy Gangster Twitch on top of it.
    I don't like any of the Ashe skins. Same with Darius and Yorick.

    I like the Astronaut Nautilus skin, but I love the base skin, so no go there.

    The only skin I own, outside of all the free ones I've accumulated, is Cowboy Alistar.

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    Finally, remember during GA your CDs continue to tick down. On heroes like Irelia, who have rather short CDs on some critical spells (like Q) this means you can Q, fight, die, and q again. Its pretty amazing.

    BTW, this strategy works on Hourglass and is exactly why heroes like Vlad LOVE Hourglass: You can R+Q+E+W and then hourglass and Q+E again. Assuming you are spellvamping the entire fight... you become significantly tankier.
    Ok, ty all. I guess I'll try Hourglass on a bruiser soon.

    I've used Hourglass quite a bit, but it also gives offensive stats so I feel better building it. Also, since you can time it yourself, it can actually save you in a fight where GA would get you killed, by e.g. using it when an enemy activates a skill or something similar. I love it on Annie especially - she gets two skills off CD, and that means she's most likely getting another stun off...

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    Hey, at least Twitch and Vlad have good skins in the first place. Look at Rumble, who's a year and a half old and still sitting at two really boring skins. Or Poppy, who was released close to three years ago and for whom at least six skins exist, but the only ones actually on sale are pretty darn generic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joran View Post
    I don't like any of the Ashe skins. Same with Darius and Yorick.

    I like the Astronaut Nautilus skin, but I love the base skin, so no go there.

    The only skin I own, outside of all the free ones I've accumulated, is Cowboy Alistar.
    I have Vandal Twitch, Pentakill Sona, and and Headmistress Fiora, outside of the free one I get for fllowing Riot on Facebook.
    I SHOULD have Unchained Allistair, but I have not idea why I don't.

    Also: one of these days, I shall probably acquire the awesome Nunu Bot.

    Quote Originally Posted by sonofzeal View Post
    Hey, at least Twitch and Vlad have good skins in the first place. Look at Rumble, who's a year and a half old and still sitting at two really boring skins. Or Poppy, who was released close to three years ago and for whom at least six skins exist, but the only ones actually on sale are pretty darn generic.
    The only bad Vandal skin in my opinion is Jax.
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    Utility?
    AP = flat damage returns via bonus damage. MPen = multiplicative damage returns on both bonus damage AND base damage.

    No stack r5 Tides of Blood: 160 base + .45 AP scaling damage.
    Max stacks r5 Tides of Blood: 320 base + .45 AP scaling damage.

    Also, spellvamp quints outscale flat AP quints.
    All I know is I have had more success with straight deathcap. I dunno why.

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    AD TF has zero synergy with new SotD, doesn't he? It might be interesting on Jayce, though, for the three crits at 130% AD.

    Pretty sure that Karthus will still be able to jungle, but he might need to bulk up a bit. Spellvamp runes :D
    Well, TF teleporting in for a gold card into three crits would be pretty nice.
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    Well, TF teleporting in for a gold card into three crits would be pretty nice.
    One of the reasons Sword of the Divine was nice on TF was because of how it worked with Stacked Deck, now that this is not the case...

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    I've been playing AD a bit lately, and it's...not that hard. Compared to like jungle or top or mid, its so much easier. It's learnable, you can learn which AD carries you can trade with, with which supports you can make passive or aggressive plays with. You can win bot lane being a worse mechanical player. Just by knowing how to behave and respond. And its always warded so jungle is usually a non-factor. It's refreshing.

    Not that I'm good at it, but I feel I am improving, and I am enjoying it.


    The other not related thing I've been playing is Lee Sin, and having a ball. Don't care where I go, or even which map I'm on. TT, SR, Top, Mid, Jungle. Just so much fun. And you can pretty much fight anybody you want. And win, unless you mess it up horribly.
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    No stack r5 Tides of Blood: 160 base + .45 AP scaling damage.
    Max stacks r5 Tides of Blood: 320 base + .45 AP scaling damage.
    Actually, Tides of Blood stacks increase damage from AP, as well. Hence 600 damage AoE (I have NUMBERS EVERYWHERE enabled, so mid/late game I notice that, with a total "base" damage of 300ish you hit 600 damage with 4 stacks; this is on minions with Abyssal's).

    So, max stacks Tides of AoE is 320 + 0.9 AP, basically.

    On Vlad I generally go Revolver/Abyssal/Zhonya's for the resists (healing + free HP = buy resists, win game) and for the Double Troll Combo: Ult, EQ, trollpool, EQ, Zhonya's, EQ.
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    So, I recently broke my own rule and solo queued for PvP and auto-locked Twitch when I finally go into a game (There was something like six different drops for various reasons).

    And not only did I get my fist First Blood, but it turned into a double kill (taunted a Mundo into a suicidal tower dive, then Venom cask'd the enemy Cho'gath), but I pulled it off solo bot, so that was nice.
    Ended up going something like 10/5/14 (Finally got a laning partner in a Cho'Gath... he wasn't helpful, having done nothing but make me overconfident.) We won partially due to a pretty stellar Karthus that went 11/0/13.
    Finally startd learning how to build properly instead of just playing a tight Twitch game. It was... satisfying.
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    (There was something like six different drops for various reasons).
    Queue dodging is frustrating because of this. There was one time recently where I literally had a 30 minute queue timer due to going into champion select like 4 times before we were able to lock in and load into the game.

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    Sorry for sounding stupid, but... "queue dodging"? What would the purpose of such a thing be?
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    Sorry for sounding stupid, but... "queue dodging"? What would the purpose of such a thing be?
    When you get into champion select and then someone quits out, returning you to looking for a match. It can get pretty annoying.

    I remember something like 15 games in dominion that were queue dodged in a row.
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    The other not related thing I've been playing is Lee Sin, and having a ball. Don't care where I go, or even which map I'm on. TT, SR, Top, Mid, Jungle. Just so much fun. And you can pretty much fight anybody you want. And win, unless you mess it up horribly.
    Try bot lane. It's hilarious. My friend and I like to run Fiora/Lee bot for the lulz and we do pretty well (probably because of our mastery over the champions rather than any actual good matchup, but maybe not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temotei View Post
    Try bot lane. It's hilarious. My friend and I like to run Fiora/Lee bot for the lulz and we do pretty well (probably because of our mastery over the champions rather than any actual good matchup, but maybe not).
    Probably because your lane opponents are all

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    Probably because your lane opponents are all

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    We also tend to dive their jungler after the leash at level 1 together (often with our mid) if we think they're starting at blue. It's great and manly and yes.
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    Actually, Tides of Blood stacks increase damage from AP, as well.
    This statement is wrong.
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    [citation needed] on both fronts!

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    Sorry for sounding stupid, but... "queue dodging"? What would the purpose of such a thing be?
    Ditching a game during champ select. It's done when people think the game isn't going to be any good and would rather deal with the penalty delay in re-queueing rather than play through a bad experience. Can be done for a variety of reasons, although a lot of them are kind of childish (ranging from 'somebody called the role I wanted to play/champ I wanted to play before I could' to 'somebody picked [champ I think is hopelessly weak], gg I'm gone' to 'oh god all four people I've been queued with just declared "mid or feed", I'm outta here.')

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