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2012-12-07, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
Frankly, defense stacking vs. percentile penetration + shred isn't even viable nowadays; it's just too inefficient and you still get peeled like swiss cheese. Flat damage reduction and health are among the better defenses but of course percentiles still exist, so...
Well, actually... Vayne is fairly weak against ADs and some mages but she's quite a strong laner vs. bruisers. That's why she's the second preferred AD carry in addition to Ezreal on both Treeline and Dominion; low CD dash + invisibility + knockback with a potential stun is a just an amazing kit for keeping distance and she's got extremely high inherent sustained base damage (compared to Graves or Corki who have great burst but relatively mediocre sustained damage comparatively especially early on; burst is great vs. squishy targets but sustained damage is the king vs. tanky targets).
Her principal issue of course is her escapes; she's not very good at those vs. ganks since she's so squishy. But like, in 1v1 she can just kite around vs. e.g. Jax, when he uses gapcloser, Condemn knocks him right back alongside a potential stun and on 6 you have stealth Tumble kiting available to you too.
Yeah, but the reason you even went Philo is to get the GP10 in the first place. I mean, otherwise you'd just get Items That Do Stuff or Catalyst or Doran's or w/e.Last edited by Eldariel; 2012-12-07 at 06:38 PM.
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2012-12-07, 06:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
Lol I think Riot patched in the middle of my games.
Edit: I'm going to try and play non traditional mids in solo queue and see how this goes. I tried Xin just now and even though I was against an Ahri, who has pretty good mobility, I found it easy enough to dominate her. Granted, I did get some help from an erratic level 1 that resulted in me suiciding her for a First blood (it was worth it though because we got an Assist), she did also get a really nice kill on me later. Then I roamed and won the game for our team.
I built Black Cleaver into Zekes Herald because we had a Warwick so all the autos would be nice. But I'm not sure about builds honestly. Obviously mercs+blackcleaver, but after wards I'm not sure honestly. GA? Sunfire? Triforce? I built Zekes cuz I wanted CDR.
I wonder how the Iceborn Gauntlet works on this guy. I assume it'd be great to stack with E, but to that extent, so would Phage.
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2012-12-07, 07:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
I know I've been pushing the whole Black Cleaver Miss Fortune thing... but seriously guys. It works.
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2012-12-07, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
Nami is out, although Koi doesn't seem to work.
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2012-12-07, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
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2012-12-07, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-07, 07:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
I have been on a massive losing streak recently and it is rather amusing to see the bans as you lose elo. I see stuff like rammus, teemo, skarner, and sona being banned over blitzcrank, alistar, morganna and such.
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2012-12-07, 07:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-07, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
If you think BC stack MF is OP, let me introduce you to SotD-BC Twitch. Three autos, and an entire team dies.
And then you realized that not only does his Q damage not splash, but his ult sorta anti-synergizes with splash damage anyway.
Besides, why exactly would you NOT rush Black Cleaver on Xin? Come on, man.
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2012-12-07, 09:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
Another good Black Cleaver user is Draven. I learned in a recent game that his bleed damage procs the Armor Shred, which means that the debuff stays on much longer then intended.
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2012-12-07, 09:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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What I always am amused by in League is how Riot will constantly release things that everyone will instantly say "that's op" and then... yeah its OP. I mean, I know the community isn't always right (Hexdrinker? Yeah), but... I am reminded by the GP remake. Everyone read the remake and said "that's op." Five nerfs later... Gangplank is still pretty alright.
And then you realized that not only does his Q damage not splash, but his ult sorta anti-synergizes with splash damage anyway.
Besides, why exactly would you NOT rush Black Cleaver on Xin? Come on, man.
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2012-12-07, 09:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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MathMage, you should plan to play some normals with me tonight. I need to practice my support for a csl match tomorrow. If you aren't busy, that is.
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2012-12-07, 09:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
Hydra Vi is pretty hilarious though. I think it applies her W.
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2012-12-07, 09:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh my god, Vi. I...
I've been wanting this for so long! She's exactly like a champ I envisioned for so long, only she's a girl! AND IT'S AWESOME!
I think I might cry from happiness T_T.
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2012-12-07, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
The worst part about people being afk is that people don't have the decency to just end it straight up. God, I'm so mad. A 3v5 game shouldn't go to 20 minutes.
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2012-12-07, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
I did a 1v3 on TT as Cait where my Rammus went AFK from the start and my Yi went out and stood in lane top near tower and KEPT GOING BACK even after the tower had been destroyed.
I managed to drag that battle out to 30 minutes out of pure unadulterated spite. Malphite + Darius + Vlad I think was the set up and I could 1v1 Vlad wherever I felt like it, and while I couldn't 1v1 Darius directly he had trouble dealing with me and it would be a trade if I threw ignite on him.
Malphite was so fed off of Yi that I couldn't dent him.
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2012-12-07, 10:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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The fact that people say this about Vi is what really makes me happy about her design. It's a sign of Riot finally realizing that 'female' is not a uniform body type, or a substitute for character development. Vi exudes character.
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2012-12-07, 10:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
today was a mixed day.
on one hand Vi, on the other, losing the best recall ever on Xmas Kat.
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2012-12-07, 10:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
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Also, wheres the Guy-Fawkes Vi skin? I would insta buy for that.Last edited by EternalMelon; 2012-12-07 at 10:58 PM.
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2012-12-07, 10:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
The last game I tried jungle Fiddlesticks, I started Machete and then accidentally bought five pots, too, without thinking about it.
Then I got invaded and had to start E for the level 1 fight.
Then my Sivir accidentally stole blue.
Then I was really glad for my starting items.
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2012-12-07, 11:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
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2012-12-07, 11:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-07, 11:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-07, 11:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Welp, we're almost there anyway, and there aren't any running conversations, so here we go.
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2012-12-08, 01:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
Does Renekton want to buy a black cleaver? Hell, what DOES Renekton want nowadays?
Nevermind, there's a new thread apparently.Last edited by TechnOkami; 2012-12-08 at 01:31 AM.
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2012-12-08, 04:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XL: Season on Hold 'til Morello gets Gold
How do you guys find Zed? He's been free this week and I've been running into him a lot.
For some reason the people I talk to vary between the extremes. They either think "Wow why is he so weak?" or "Wow why is he so strong?"
When I play him, I find that he can almost only go Mid Lane (kind of like Talon basically). The fact that building multiple BCs is kind of nice too.
But the problem with that is of course a lack of magic damage. How bad do you think is that for team comp? Especially when you SoloQ and the top lane chooses a bruiser of some kind?
Ignore.Last edited by JKTrickster; 2012-12-08 at 04:24 AM.