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2012-11-15, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Martial Scripts
Rereading the Martial Scripts segment of Tome of Battle, I don't see any reference to limited uses per day nor to the script being consumed by use. This item is rarely referenced, probably because is makes little sense, but the ability to pick up a free stance for a none initiator seems like something that would be discussed more.
Am I missing something, or are Scripts merely underappreciated?
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2012-11-15, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Martial Scripts
A martial script is a small strip of paper or cloth marked with delicate lettering that holds the secret of a martial maneuver. Any given script grants the use of the maneuver recorded on it for one encounter. Once it is activated, a script vanishes in a puff of white smoke.
Generally, you're better off just picking up one of the wondrous items that gives you a maneuver permanently. They're fairly cheap.
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2012-11-15, 11:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-15, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Martial Scripts
Do ever leave a stance unless you end it? Would that mean that I could get one stance script and then just remain in that stance indefinitely?
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2012-11-15, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Martial Scripts
To be fair, if you wanted to stick to stupid levels of RAW, you could argue that vanishing in a puff of smoke doesn't mean it's gone, it just means it's invisible, and with see invisibility you could use it again.
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2012-11-15, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Martial Scripts
There's also the problem where stances aren't maneuvers. They have a clause that lets them count as maneuvers for the purposes of maneuver prereqs, but otherwise, they're a separate mechanic.
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2012-11-15, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Only problem is that this reading makes regular scrolls reusable too. "The writing vanishes from the scroll when the spell is activated."
But "vanish" is used in a variety of ways in core. It could mean "becomes invisible" as you suggest, or even "becomes ethereal" (from Blink) or "gets destroyed" (Disintegrate.) So the DM would still have to arbitrate; there is no RAW here.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2012-11-15, 08:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Martial Scripts
You also lose the stance if you're ever rendered helpless.
This means you must never sleep, amongst other things, if you want to always have the stance.
The RAW on whether stances are maneuvers that can be put into martial scripts is ambiguous at best. I could easily imagine a DM ruling it either way. I allow it in my game, but YMMV.I am not seaweed. That's a B.
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2012-11-15, 08:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Even if you could have a script of a Stance, I wouldn't find it overpowered to make it last a day. There's spells with 24 hour duration you can get scrolls of. This isn't that much of a stretch.
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2012-11-15, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Also, same page, "Stances are considered maneuvers for the purpose of fulfilling prerequisites for learning higher-level maneuvers, or qualifying for prestige classes or feats."
This list is pretty exclusive, does not seem to include martial scripts. But eggs, you should have been good to go.Last edited by mattie_p; 2012-11-15 at 09:09 PM.
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Re: Martial Scripts
Last edited by eggs; 2012-11-15 at 09:26 PM.
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Last edited by mattie_p; 2012-11-15 at 09:27 PM.
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